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Why did Frankie's mom look surprised.. *SPOILERS*


when the baby came out white? Frankie was saying she and Pete had names picked out so she clearly knew he was the father. However messed up it was I understand why she killed the baby but... she HAD to know it wouldn't be that dark. That part just confused me.

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Considering that there were no lines of dialogue in that part of the scene, it is interesting that you interpreted the look Frankie's mother gave the baby the way you did.

I interpreted the look as the moment she realised she was going to get rid of the baby. Actually, as the scene played I thought it was because Frankie's mother thought the baby was stillborn, but then after Frankie tells the doctor that her mother killed her baby, I then understood that look to mean that it was the very moment she knew she would get rid of (i.e. kill) the baby. I didn't factor skin colour into that scene at all and I don't see any basis that would even justify the thought.

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I agree with movielover2011 .

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I agree! She looked at the baby and was questioning how she could kill something so innocent

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I had a feeling the baby was gonna be her sister . But I was wrong

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Same here

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I think it would have been much better if they allowed us the hear the conversation she had with here mother and allow her mother to tell her what happen. I think since her mother obviously drove off with the child, which is something she didn't have to do to kill it. I think when she saw the child was white she took the child to "Mr. Pete's" family and that is why his sister freaked at the wedding because she feared she was coming back into their lives to get the child that her mother was probably raising as one of her own.
Because the way the Pete's sister act, I thought he was her highschool sweetheart or fiance caught dallying with the help.

But since it is based on a true story most likely if the child was given away to that family or an orphanage it may be a secret everyone want to take to their grave for the child's sake. Because she asked the doctor if he think her mother killed the child and he instructs her to face the source for the truth. Her Momma and for reason the righter or the woman the story was adapted from, wanted that to be left a mystery.

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I think it would have been much better if they allowed us the hear the conversation she had with here mother and allow her mother to tell her what happen. I think since her mother obviously drove off with the child, which is something she didn't have to do to kill it. I think when she saw the child was white she took the child to "Mr. Pete's" family and that is why his sister freaked at the wedding because she feared she was coming back into their lives to get the child that her mother was probably raising as one of her own.
Because the way the Pete's sister act, I thought he was her highschool sweetheart or fiance caught dallying with the help.

But since it is based on a true story most likely if the child was given away to that family or an orphanage it may be a secret everyone want to take to their grave for the child's sake. Because she asked the doctor if he think her mother killed the child and he instructs her to face the source for the truth. Her Momma and for reason the righter or the woman the story was adapted from, wanted that to be left a mystery.

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Not all biracial babies are born looking that white (light skin, straight hair and light colored eyes). I think that the mother assumed that since the baby's mother was black, then the baby would have more African features but as we see, that wasn't the case. That was the reason for the look on her face and her reaction. She knew that her daughter was not equipped to raise a white baby, with no father in sight. Back then, it would have been bad enough for a black girl to have a black baby with no father but to have a white baby with no father was twice as bad so she knew that she had to get rid of it. What she did with the baby was not clear.



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You do realize there are dozens of cases of known people who fit exactly how you describe Frankie's baby and were raised AND NOT murdered? And it happened in even worse times then the 1950's? That is a very silly thing for you to type.

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And you do realize that there are tons of cases of babies being born each day who don't get murdered by their grandmothers, right, lol?

The mom in the movie must have been whack, too. Normal mothers don't kill their grand-babies. So whatever her own personal "reason" -- she was messed up.

I was confused at that part too but it seemed to me, the way the light was shining etc, the shot emphasized the baby's blue eyes, and then the mom gave that look of decision/doom and went out and threw it in the trash (or whatever she does with it). So yes, I made the connection...the blue eyes/whiteness did it. She seemed to get overly defensive/agitated earlier when the doctor asked about Pete, saying how that was two worlds mixing that shouldn't etc. So...that would support the theory that she didn't like how white the baby looked. And the fact "Alice" had blue eyes like the baby Alice did...

But it wasn't clear. Just a guess.

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I don't see why the baby's color at birth would determine anything. Even kids with both parent's being of dark skin, are sometimes born very pale. It's even stranger if they happen to have light blue eyes, which does occur occasionally. I've got many African American friends whose babies were born light skinned and gradually became darker as they grew a little older. In fact, one couple, one of which is Nigerian and very, very dark, had a daughter who was so pale as a newborn, people would point and make very nasty comments implying that she was stolen, etc. She now looks like her folks and is a lovely little girl.

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