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I thought only American film makers had.........


..... the homophobic, cop out ending. I figured Europeans had a more tolerant attitude towards homosexuality. For those of you not familiar with the term, that's where the lead character, experiencing a satisfying homosexual encounter and possibly real happiness for the first time in their life, must go straight, return to straight, or die, all in the last few minutes of the film . I'm not sure if that was what it was, but it seemed that way. I'm not really sure how this film ended unless it was a "choose the ending you like" kind of deal.

I personally like the swimming in the pool naked ending.

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i saw this film for a 2nd time, and am convinced that it has (coexisting) dual endings...pick one.

it's obvious that the writer intended for the viewer to have a choice.

and both the swimming pool scene and that final shot of asia in the pool are really beautiful.

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yes, cause europe has always been so far ahead, pun. r u fkn insane

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I saw it as her chasing after what she really wanted, the guy learning it wasn't him...she coincidentally was hit by the car, as she didn't want him to be hurt, but she had to go after her true love & happiness. She died in the quest for keeping something real (with Eloise), like what she had with her father, and her mother being opposed to both. Her mother caused Asia's soul's death as a child, then as she saw her become happy again, she caused her physical death while she was following her heart. Asia never got to experience the life she deserved, maybe it was for the best, since her mother was so miserable & determined to not allow anyone else to be any different. I'd say the mother was the influential force of many major events in the movie, more powerful than how it seemed.

I guess I see it differently bc my mother has tried to influence & control me as she saw fit...when I went with what made me happy & fulfilled, she became jealous & tried so hard to ruin my life. I'm still fighting the good fight.

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There were two endings to choose from: (1) Asia eventually died from her injuries, and we see that the mother's anguish over her daughter's lesbian relationship is nothing compared to her daughter's death, which in the end can be directly traced to the mother's actions. (2) Asia survives, rides off into the sunset with her true love.

I thought the ending was well done, and not at all like you interpreted. You missed the point entirely. The ending was in no way homophobic. In fact, quite the opposite. It was EXACTLY an indictment of those who are homophobic and who would rather seek to end someone's happiness for their own selfish comfort than to adjust and love them for who they are and for what their heart desires. The moral dilemma the movie poses is: Is it worth a potential tragedy for one to impose their morality onto another, or is it better to live, let live, and love people for who they are, especially when the choices of the one you wish to control are completely harmless and solely theirs to make?

Asia's mother was homophobic, and it was, in large part, Asia's discovery that her mother had just had an argument with her lover Eloise that caused her to run to catch Eloise. Perhaps the accident would not have happened if her mother hadn't been so pushy, forced the date, and confronted Eloise.

Homophobia was on trial here, not homosexuality.

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kalqlate is right. I do not know how anybody could possibly interpret this ending as being homophobic. The entire point of the Mother taking the picture of the whale jumping at the moon and giving it to Eloise was to show that she realized that love was more important than her bigoted beliefs. The Mother must feel incredibly guilty for Asia's death; after all, it was because of her threatening Eloise to stay away that caused Asia to chase after her. Only at the end, after it is too late, do we seem to understand—that would be the message of the film.

As for the alternate endings, I think the key is to be found in the mythology of the blue whale and his love for the moon. Eloise says that in the tale the whale's love is so powerful that it creates a replication of the moon. I may be interpreting it biased as a religious Roman Catholic, but it appears to me their love does indeed create some better future for themselves in Heaven, or whatever you want to call the place where they ride off into the sunset together. The ending felt like Lilja 4-Ever, where Lilja and Volodya dance on the rooftop with angelic wings.

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yeah, the ending was not my favorite part

good movie for the rest though



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