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What the...? How was this allowed to exist?


This is half rant, half cautionary tale to any poor sap that checks this boards.

I caught this movie on TV awhile ago, watched a little bit of it, went "what the hell is this monstrosity of crap?", and turned it off. This is before I even knew who and what Tucker Max was. Then the following happened...

I recently discovered Tucker Max and his RIDICULOUS tales of "womanizing" and boozing through an article I was reading about David Thorne. I've followed David Thorne for a while, finding his posts pretty amusing (though the story I was reading was describing how he has taken creative license with some of his stories--eek). This particular article referred to his type of writing as a form a "fratire" and mentioned the supposed creators of this genre-- Tucker Max and Maddox. Apparently I'm way behind the times because this was the first I had heard of them and of this term. I was intrigued. I googled Tucker Max and ended up at his infamous website... Now I really wish I hadn't read that stupid article in the first place.

The first story I read was his "Tucker Goes to Campout, Owns Duke Nerds" where he harasses other students with his newly purchased bull-horn. I actually thought the story was pretty funny, and while I thought he was a huge assh*le, I "got" that was the whole point. Then I kept reading and slowly it dawned on me that this guy actually thought he was some champion, some hero to be admired, some god to be worshipped. The more I read, the sicker I became. His outlandish tales and constant cries of "I am Tucker Max!" grew stale and sad. Why should anyone boast about having sex with countless random women who are rarely, if ever, attractive? And why should anyone applaud that? That's no mean feat. It's not any wonder to me that he gets these girls to have sex with him. He even admits that he's not pulling these women out of an incredibly elite or selective pool, so why has he continued to be such a legend?

I did more research and found the websites others have mentioned on here, the ones that highlight his inconsistencies, his lies, and his major personality defects. It dawned on me at some point that this man was behind THIS film. At first I was annoyed that I wasted so much time reading about such a waste of a human being. Then I came to these boards and read what some of his fans had to say. I read what his fans had to say on the other websites, too, and it's beyond terrifying.

I wasn't even going to post anything on here until I just read one of his quotes that he heard from multiple people that they wouldn't be surprised if this screenplay was nominated for an Oscar. That officially got me; I'd had enough. I rolled my eyes at some of his other comments, laughed out loud at some of his unbelievably lofty and almost scary illusions of grandeur, groaned at his irritating belief that he's God's gift to the Universe (if there is a God, I'm sure He could have come up with someone A LOT better in SO MANY ways), but this was just officially too much. IN WHAT WORLD DOES HE THINK HE IS LIVING IN? Obviously, this did NOT happen, but I just want to know who on this EARTH could have possibly thought this script, which would have served better as toilet paper, was worthy of a nomination? Perhaps just another character than inhabits Mr. Max's head.

If any of his fans are still lingering around- I'm a girl, so I'm not jealous of Tucker Max. It took me less than an hour to read through some of his stories and the sites that point out truth. No, I'm not offended by joking sexism (it's actually rare I get offended by true comedy, actually... emphasis on true and comedy, both of which Tucker and his stories lack) but I am massively disgusted by sociopathic freaks who pretend it's all a joke and that-at heart-they really love women. I am also disgusted that he has any fans left as it is painfully obvious what lurks behind his facade: he is a loser who created this joke of a life to get a generation of college kids to look up to him. Why would anyone want to be like Tucker Max?

Anyone who hasn't seen the movie, don't. It has all the problems pointed out- poor lighting, stiff and terribly unnatural dialogue, unfunny "zingers", horrible acting, etc. And to the people who still fawn over him, look up to him, aspire to be just like him, defend him to the death?! Just... stop. You don't want to be anything like him, you just haven't realized that yet. I guess you have to have your own path of discovery, your own point of startling realization... I just hope that you wake up before you find yourself in the very same shoes as the sad, sad man that is Tucker Max: alone with only your TV and computer as company, with stories that were mostly never true, having to stare at yourself in the mirror and realize that deep down you are still an insecure boy that no one truly wants anything to do with.

Honestly, in spite of my angry post and my wtf? moments, I do feel a little sorry for the guy. His "fame" is gone, his dreams have been laughed off, and any chance he had at making it big has been squandered... and he only has himself to blame. Really, could you imagine any worse reality? No wonder he tells tall tales.

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Crazy Moon,

I love you.

That is all.

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“(My film) is going to be so much bigger than anyone is predicting right now.”-Tucker Max

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I second that.

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Up until yesterday I'd never heard of Tucker Max. I only saw this film because I went to my sisters for dinner and she suggested we watch a film. I'd had a pretty stressful week at work so I said I was game for that as long as it was something that didn't challenge the brain in any way. She replied "I know just the film you need" and dug this one out of Netflix or Lovefilm or whatever she's subscribed to.

I found Tucker to be one of the most obnoxious and unlikeable characters I've ever seen, he was never funny and if he spoke like he did to women over here (I'm in England) he'd have lost those pearly white teeth within five minutes of opening his mouth.

I had no idea he actually exists, despite the disclaimer at the start that it's based on a true story. I honestly thought the character was a very weak attempt at re creating Stiffler from the American Pie films, but with half the charm and a quarter of the brain cells.

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I'm sorry you had to watch this abortion of a movie (that Tucker can't write off on his tax forms, as he so candidly described in one of this stories) :( Are you okay?

I brought lemons

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If any of his fans are still lingering around...

I think you have more plausible creatures to worry about. You know, like leprechauns, unicorns, or the yeti. Tucker's fans exist entirely in his imagination. As such, it's best not to delude Tucker Max into acknowledging the remote possibility that they could theoretically exist. It only serves to encourage the poor guy.

Fortunately, you don't have to worry much about Tucker Max anymore. His incompetence has been shown and he has been fully exposed for who he really is. Tucker has been run out of the entertainment industry. He has crawled under his rock in Texas to politely fade into middle-aged obscurity. Also, Nils is still fat.

Tucker Max: destroying more Hollywood careers than is safe or reasonable.

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"This is half rant, half cautionary tale to any poor sap that checks this boards."

If half of your post is a rant, and half is a cautionary tale; then what else is left? Does that mean that there is nothing else other than ranting and caution. I mean, literally you are saying: "Be careful of Tucker Max you f-face sap!!!!!." I think you are just really trying to say that Nils likes snacks.

"I caught this movie on TV awhile ago, watched a little bit of it, went "what the hell is this monstrosity of crap?", and turned it off. This is before I even knew who and what Tucker Max was. Then the following happened... "

That's a shame. Because you missed the real fun, the months of watching him declare that this movie would revolutionize comedy and propel him to be a huge success. Watching the epic failure in real time was incredibly satisfying. Read the Scriptreader Blog comments, if you want to get a taste of big people talking to a little boy and his friends. The TM is a Douchebag 10,000 comment thread is also priceless in parts.

"I googled Tucker Max and ended up at his infamous website... Now I really wish I hadn't read that stupid article in the first place."

We are working on that. Like the Spreading Santorum project, we are hoping that the first google search of Tucker Max will lead to articles explaining why it is synonymous with boastful failure; and douchebaggery. That is his legacy. He out Troy-Duffied, Troy Duffy.

"I wasn't even going to post anything on here until I just read one of his quotes that he heard from multiple people that they wouldn't be surprised if this screenplay was nominated for an Oscar. That officially got me; I'd had enough. I rolled my eyes at some of his other comments, laughed out loud at some of his unbelievably lofty and almost scary illusions of grandeur, groaned at his irritating belief that he's God's gift to the Universe (if there is a God, I'm sure He could have come up with someone A LOT better in SO MANY ways), but this was just officially too much. IN WHAT WORLD DOES HE THINK HE IS LIVING IN? Obviously, this did NOT happen, but I just want to know who on this EARTH could have possibly thought this script, which would have served better as toilet paper, was worthy of a nomination? Perhaps just another character than inhabits Mr. Max's head."

Yes, it was indeed priceless watching it in real time. I hope you read some of his fake emails he would post claiming that someone had sent him a message about how great IHTSBIH, the movie was and how it had changed their life in a profound way. The "yes, saar," email from the army cherry was the best. See, this was all proof that the haterz were missing the profound art. His audience in London was huge.

"I am also disgusted that he has any fans left as it is painfully obvious what lurks behind his facade: he is a loser who created this joke of a life to get a generation of college kids to look up to him. Why would anyone want to be like Tucker Max?"

Don't talk about Nils that way. He is struggling with a very serious weight problem.

"I just hope that you wake up before you find yourself in the very same shoes as the sad, sad man that is Tucker Max: alone with only your TV and computer as company, with stories that were mostly never true, having to stare at yourself in the mirror and realize that deep down you are still an insecure boy that no one truly wants anything to do with."

The real problem would not be having to be in Tucker's shoes. The real problem would be having to wear his gloves. His hands are so freakishly small that only a large dose of Thalidomide in infancy would really explain them. And having his ears would be a bit of a bummer as well. The haircut, is great. It's basically the same haircut Jerry O'Connell wore in "Stand by Me."

"Anyone who hasn't seen the movie, don't. It has all the problems pointed out- poor lighting, stiff and terribly unnatural dialogue, unfunny "zingers", horrible acting, etc. And to the people who still fawn over him, look up to him, aspire to be just like him, defend him to the death?! Just... stop. You don't want to be anything like him, you just haven't realized that yet. I guess you have to have your own path of discovery, your own point of startling realization... I just hope that you wake up before you find yourself in the very same shoes as the sad, sad man that is Tucker Max: alone with only your TV and computer as company, with stories that were mostly never true, having to stare at yourself in the mirror and realize that deep down you are still an insecure boy that no one truly wants anything to do with.'

You must be a fat disgusting man-hating lesbian. (Sorry, Bunny). Lot's of great girls love Tucker. His last girl friend landed Ian Ziering, an A-lister circa 1991. His other girlfriend, the Bunny, apparently suffered a complete psychiatric breakdown; and found solace in buckets of chicken. In addition to these winners, Tucker has landed a pathetic Penn State sophomore who basically described him as a lousy lay. He is the man. So, by logical conclusion, you must be a big fat lesbian. If you don't want a 36 year old manchild wearing stretch shorts and a grey t-shirt to share his art and philosophy with you, you must be a lesbian.

"Honestly, in spite of my angry post and my wtf? moments, I do feel a little sorry for the guy. His "fame" is gone, his dreams have been laughed off, and any chance he had at making it big has been squandered... and he only has himself to blame. Really, could you imagine any worse reality? "

Easy on the pity. Save that for Nils or Ryan Holiday. Picture the life of the Tucker uber-fan. The guy who believed that he has hitched his wagon to the great new star; and that puppy-kiss powered airships and crossbow themed bars were in your future, all paid for by Tucker's huge royalties from his revolutionary movie and its inevitable sequels. Or, is that what you are really trying to say. . . that Nils is fat?

"I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" . . . will be bigger than ANYONE (except me) is predicting."
TM

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You guys crack me up so much. I laughed harder at these responses than I did at anything Max wrote. I know the bar wasn't set very high, but I promise you exceeded it beyond compare.

I do wish I had read this stuff in real time. It was amusing enough now, even if at times I wanted to punch my laptop (thankfully I calmed myself down by realizing TM isn't worth destroying my personal property). Watching someone as repugnant as he is (I don't even really want to type his name anymore) who believes people were put on this earth to smell his farts and stomach his nonsensical insults, who wants women to fill out applications to date him and beg to do his laundry, who thinks that his trash is worthy of an Oscar, who honestly considers his writing to be classic literature, fail on such an intense, revealing level is highly satisfactory.

That is an insult of the highest order to any film that has been nominated for best screenplay/best film, any film that has won for those categories. His book is an insult to language; I honestly feel sorry for the trees and ink and time wasted to combine those fables into one package.

How'd you know that deep down I was a fat disgusting man-hating lesbian??? Shucks, I thought I hid it so well. Btw I read that story of the Penn sophomore. The whole time I read it I just kept asking "Why?" The O&A interview was a particular gem. It was as hard to watch for me as Schindler's List, just because it's painful to watch anyone be so utterly and irrevocably defeated. Then I read some of his quotes, some stories about him, etc. and I remember the video with fondness now.

At the end of the day, I just want to know why this was allowed to even exist. I get that some people initially thought his relative, tiny amount of success would translate into an equal amount of success on the big screen, but surely someone at SOME point had to open their eyes and realize they had a steaming pile of excrement on their hands here? Literally. This is an abortion that he CAN'T write off on his taxes.

For what it's worth, I'm 22 and I never ever heard of TM before. I asked around recently because I wanted to share my horror with other people and most of the people I asked hadn't heard of him. A few had but only knew of him in the vaguest sense. One friend (a guy) had read a story or two of his, looked at me with mingled confusion and surprise, and asked, "He's still around?" He had never been overly impressed. I told him no.

P.S. Have you guys read the Psychology Today article about TM? That's one of the first things I stumbled on about him. I was kind of impressed, though I didn't think anything he was saying was really revolutionary. Now I realize he's a master at one thing- presenting other people's ideas, beliefs, stories as his own. Throwing around the names of geniuses does not make him a genius, of that we're all deliciously aware. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201107/conversatio ns-creativity-tucker-max

P.P.S. Yeah, my entire post can basically be translated into "Nils is fat".


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I just opened the article again and looked at the comments out of curiosity. I see someone got to it already :)

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Tucker has always been lucky that he has swum in the nether-regions of d-list Internet personality. As the O&A interview demonstrated, any real scrutiny would have revealed him to be the damaged fraud he really is. If his movie or books ever really became hits beyond the college audience, then the questions would be far tougher, than " where's the tape and police report, Tucker. "

Like most sociopaths, Tucker can put on a good 20 minute persona, which is enough to pitch a book or project; survive a softball interview; or pick up a damaged girl. In fact, because he is unbridled by simple things like honesty, empathy, or guilt; he operates much better in that arena than a non sociopath. He is also good at a strange form of flattery for interviewers, it's like, if you think I'm cool and make me look cool, then you will be cool too. Again, 20 minutes of his book is entertaining, which is about the attention span of his audience.

Tuckers problem is the long game. After 20 minutes, the inconsistencies and improbabilities become more pronounced. And he is helpless against real verifiable data. The lack of reality becomes glaring. He can say he sold 5 million books, but box office mojo just reports the real number. There is no spin.

So, now his new psych today interview we meet the new mature well adjusted Tucker. Again it's brief and the interviewer makes no effort to confront him about the mountain of bs he shoveled during the movie project. He makes no reference to the obvious pathology that his behavior indicates: borderline, npd, antisocial pd. A real interview would be administering an mmpi and then discussing the findings.

I think what I am trying to say, and reading between the lines, is that Nils is no friend of buffets.

"I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" . . . will be bigger than ANYONE (except me) is predicting."
TM

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if you think tucker is bad.. you should check out this guy. www.mikegamms.blogspot.com some of his *beep* he is trying really hard to be tucker max.

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Crazy moon clearly has zero banter! This film is superb! BRadford's performance is perfect, his loathing for women and pancakewich obsession is comedy genius! The whole pancakewich verse in the car is a classic. REally dont understand how this has such a low rating, may be because Tucker Max is a douche in real life. If it hadn't been related to him and just a random comedy it might be perceived more positively I guess

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"BRadford's performance is perfect, his loathing for women and pancakewich obsession is comedy genius!"

False.

"The whole pancakewich verse in the car is a classic."

Highly false.

"REally dont understand how this has such a low rating..."

Have you seen the movie? If so, are you older than 12?

"...Tucker Max is a douche in real life."

Correct.

"If it hadn't been related to him and just a random comedy it might be perceived more positively I guess"

False. Most people who saw this had (and still have) no idea who Tucker Max is (other than as a character in a terrible movie). His celebrity presence is negligible. No, the reason most of the people who saw this movie hated it is because it was written and produced by people who have no idea how to write or produce movies. The public has spoken.


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“(My film) is going to be so much bigger than anyone is predicting right now.”-Tucker Max

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Tucker is my hero.

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"Tucker is my hero."

That's somewhat pathetic, if it's true.

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“(My film) is going to be so much bigger than anyone is predicting right now.”-Tucker Max

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You know what else is pathetic? Someone who has to come online and bash what other people think. :)

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Aside from porn, isn't that the main purpose of the internet?

"I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" . . . will be bigger than ANYONE (except me) is predicting."
TM

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"You know what else is pathetic? Someone who has to come online and bash what other people think."

Isn't that pretty much exactly what YOU'RE doing?

Good job, hypocrite.

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“(My film) is going to be so much bigger than anyone is predicting right now.”-Tucker Max

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Nope, I said the act of doing something is pathetic. I never called the person pathetic. Nice try, though.

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No. You used the word "someone". Someone is a pronoun denoting a person. You WROTE that the person (someone) was pathetic. You may have MEANT the act, but that's not what you said. Nice try, though.

Have you read Tucker's new books of old stories yet?

Tucker Max: destroying more Hollywood careers than is safe or reasonable.

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Hey Nateybaybee, if he's your hero, you're a moron.

I DID come online to bash you, what of it? Perhaps you haven't been reading up to this point... it's a legitimate assumption.



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lol you make a strong case!

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I must admit I enjoyed the movie. As a non-douchebag (e.g. a boring nice guy), I hate douchebags, and began to hate Tucker from the opening minutes. Seeing him unmasked for the selfish meathead he is was great! Contrast him to his "friends" Drew and Dan: Drew's bitterness, morbidity and mysoginism was only a defence mechanism after his break-up and was quickly torn down once he started bonding with Jack. Dan, though a little under the thumb from his fiancee and future mother-in-law, was trying to protect Tucker (thus putting his own marriage in jeopardy).

No such justification exits for Tucker: he was portrayed as a selfish douchebag who used his friends to fulfil his own needs and his "confession" at the wedding felt fake.

I'm actually planning to read the books properly to see how far this theme is taken.

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"his "confession" at the wedding felt fake"?

It was nowhere near real or sincere - right after he just went back to the douche that he was before.

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Some one is mad lol

His book(s) were best sellers on the new york times. People get all uppidy and scruntize the stupiest things take him with a grain of salt, and if you don't like him no one gives a *beep* what your opinion is.. welcome to the internet


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So we're just suppose to allow all lovers to praise the garbage in peace?

Haters gonna hate... and I don't give a *beep* about your opinion.

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Then I guess I'm entitled to not give a crap about your opinion, either. Isn't the internet a beautiful place? Have fun pleasuring yourself to the thought of Max's alleged shenanigans.

I brought lemons

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Thanks for the post OP. I was going to check out this movie because of MC, but you saved me from wasting my time.

"What do you say to the God of Death?"
"Not today!"

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Seriously though, you should check out Maddox. His stuff is actually satire and pretty hilarious.

I'm running this monkey farm now and I wanna know what the *beep* you're doing with my time!

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Since Tucker Max is supposedly a nobody whose fans all gave up or abandoned him, can you answer me this? Why did his new book Hilarity Ensues debut on The New York Times bestsellers list at NUMBER 2!!!!!!!!!!! Apparently he is doing something right. Also, I have found no credible evidence to contradict anything he's stated as facts in his books. Also, I have seen overwhelming credible evidence that proves some if not all of his stories are true.




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It could have something to do with this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/nest/194442853?d=latest&; t=20120213130944#latest

Also you have to remember how the NYT best sellers list is structured. His book is number 2 in non-fiction hardback. Do you you realize how few copies he needs to sell to make it in that oddly specific category?

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Combined Hardcover & Paperback Nonfiction
AMERITOPIA, by Mark R. Levin
HILARITY ENSUES, by Tucker Max
AMERICAN SNIPER, by Chris Kyle with Scott McEwen and Jim DeFelice
THE VOW, by Kim and Krickitt Carpenter with Dana Wilkerson
HEAVEN IS FOR REAL, by Todd Burpo with Lynn Vincent

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I'm running this monkey farm now and I wanna know what the *beep* you're doing with my time!

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What?! You're kidding! Tucker Max beat out the mighty Todd Burpo on 'the list'? Those are some real literary heavyweights he's jostling with there.

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I don't even know who that is.

I'm running this monkey farm now and I wanna know what the *beep* you're doing with my time!

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Exactly.

Tucker Max: destroying more Hollywood careers than is safe or reasonable.

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Hilarity Ensues plummets to #20 on the combined nonfiction list.

Tucker Max: destroying more Hollywood careers than is safe or reasonable.

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The only thing I'm going to say is that this was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It was totally *beep* and I wish I got my wasted time back... I actually paid attention for some of it, then it became background noise.

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