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So, is that the right camo pattern for urban warfare?


I'm being honest I don't know. I kinda figured there would be an urban digi camo.

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USMC has two cammies. Woodland and Desert. Stateside, I think they wear woodland during the fall & winter months. Desert during spring and summer months.

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How odd and presumptuous that you actually beLIEve people would not know or understand how you came upon such assumptions.

Google obviously is your friend.

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That is correct. In fact, when I served, we didn't even get a complete set of both. In the case where you only have one set, you wear woodland (unless the regulation changed over the past few years). The other guy responding to you is just a troll. One that can't even use big words in a sentence properly.

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Yes. Desert MARPAT works well in urban environments. The Marines actually developed an urban variation but never issued it because desert was already effective enough.

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More misinformation from an agent of disinformation.

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I actually like that pattern camo Marine uniform in the movie. The U.S. Army could adopt it and make minor revisions to it such as the pockets.

In the movie there's a brief, fleeting scene after the beginning where a group of Marines are standing around, two wearing woodland camo and two wearing desert camo.

The U.S. Army stood by its woodland camo pattern from 1982 to 2006 when it adopted the odd, white and light green pattern that no one liked and then the astonishing post-research that it was not an appropriate pattern. The U.S. Army quickly returned to a woodland pattern that is reminiscent of its former woodland camo except the black splotches are not added to the present woodland pattern. The Army knew it should have stayed with something tried and true.

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More misinformation from an agent of disinformation.


I'm quoting the actual contractor that designed the pattern.

The MARPAT Urban Pattern was never issued. Desert MARPAT in the U.S. Army Urban testing came out #1 so this could be why the USMC did not move forward with a specific Urban pattern.


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The U.S. Army quickly returned to a woodland pattern that is reminiscent of its former woodland camo except the black splotches are not added to the present woodland pattern.


It gets a lot more complicated and a lot dumber. The short version is the Crye Precision sold the Army a multi environment camo called Scorpion in the early 00's which was rejected in favor for the grey green UCP pattern we saw. After they lost CP refined the Scorpion pattern into a more effective pattern they named multicam and sold it commercially. The Army eventually adopted multicam for use in Afghanistan before deciding to standardize the obsolete Scorpion pattern for the whole Army to save a couple bucks since they already had the rights.

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Maybe camo covered in graffiti would blend in better.

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Yes, now go try it you fruitcake.

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"you go to war with the army you have---not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

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Yup - this.

My first reaction when I read the thread title was "I don't think the US Defense Force is setup ready for urban combat 'just in case'".

In this situation they were caught with their pants down. They would fight in their underwear if they had to.

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Nope not this nor that.

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Key word "Army".

This is the United States Marine Corps.

How odd and presumptuous that you would actually beLIEve that flawed statement would count in this case.

Next time try not to be a mister know it all and just answer the question.

Or don't, yea that's an option that would probably do you better.

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There is Urban camo available but they where pulled out of the field and sent into combat.

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Yes, no and maybe.

A-TACS is also very good for urban areas.

It depends on the country, military branch, operations( Spec Ops) and theater of operations.

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I'm not in the service so I won't claim to have a definitive answer, but I assumed the Marines in the film were wearing their desert MARPATs because they were expecting to be rotated to Iraq/Afghanistan. Kerns even visits the base doctor about having PTSD from a recent deployment, and Nantz's previous deployment is a key part of the movie.

A big part of it too is that desert camo just happened to be what the Marines were wearing during their training when the aliens arrived and they needed to deploy ASAP. Notice how the 40th Infantry Division guys are wearing standard Army camo.

On a side note, in the book World War Z there's a part where a U.S. Army veteran of the fictional "Battle of Yonkers" mentions how a lot of the humvees and Abrams tanks they were using were still painted tan because they'd "just gotten back from the desert." In the book the U.S. military is geared towards fighting in the Middle East, not necessarily on the homefront so I figured it was a similar issue in Battle: Los Angeles.

Can't be too careful with all those weirdos running around.

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