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Its good we talk about it..

posted 11 years ago by sasa-anakijev
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About this incest problematic that is sadly a reality in our society.Not to a huge degree but still..

I think we should be honest and try to see and look into this more honestly and try to figure out why this is happening.

I am against incest, i feel its totally repulsive and wrong. But if i'm honest i must say there was a small moment in my life as a child that i think i had incestuous feeling towards my mom(remember the desire to have sex with an older person is in fact incestuous in origin-you are merely trying to have sex with your dad/mother but with other people).

But as i said this was only but a moment.. now, if i would live in a deserted place with only my mom and no other woman, and i'm growing up, and have access to internet(and we all know what that means) and no other girls around.. the chances of incest i think become even higher.. While if you are in a normal setting surrounded by your peers and hanging out with them and being in school the chances are reduced..

Psychologist talked allot about this feelings and there is an agreement its natural and common.. parents have them and children as well!..but they are "fleeting" in nature and much harder to act upon them. I guess mother nature built some good fail-safe switches to prevent messed up gene-pool by inbreeding too much.

So why is this happening and what can be done to be prevented? Are people-adults the parents just too emotionally lonely and look at their own children as a safe-bet at making them self happy and joyful ? Plus its easier to seduce your child if you really make up your mind early enough.. so why are people so emotionally closed to other people that their children are the only way to express their intimate love they have? .. its quite sad but also alarming if this trends continue..

The fact movies are made about this and are increasing in frequencies are a sign of things to come..

Our society is surely one that is not working in harmony.. nope, not indeed..

[–] Stevarooni 11 years ago

Is incest actually occurring more often, though, or is it simply reported more often? My opinion is that it isn't new, and not really a trend. Womb does show a very isolated situation, but it's implied that Tommy went off to grade school (rather than home schooling) and then college at some point. In the case of Womb, too...well, there's something called the Westermarck effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect) that should cause Tommy to find her sexually unappealing after living with her for so long as a child.

It's a good subject for research, though, and any actual increase in incest (especially with children) is cause for concern, but I doubt it's very common or becoming more frequent.

[–] dudditslucky7 11 years ago

I don't mean to sound judgmental toward the OP, but, I personally NEVER had even one small moment of incestuous thoughts about my own father. Nor have I EVER had a sexual impulse toward my son. I'm not sure that I agree with the OP, as they seem to indicate that they believe incestuous thoughts, no matter how fleeting, are natural or normal. I strongly disagree....

[–] sasa-anakijev 11 years ago

you look at things too narrowly, .. okei, so your a woman, have you ever had a boyfriend who was older than you? by how much? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?.. were u attracted by an older man in life(not your father just older man).. if not you, than most people have urges like that and they are incest origin wise connected..

we seek authority, to comfort us, to make our life happy, so we seek someone older than us, or wiser, or more beautiful..why? to comfort us, to release our duty to ourselves to them.. people that do this have fetus syndrome, they want to be babies to a grown person..and people who take advantage of this and enjoy having a "child" of such sorts are pedophiles in nature regardless of the fact if they have children and abuse them or not..

a 55 year old man seducing a 17 year old girl is a pedophile no matter how we look at it..even though some retards are gonna object that hei, if they both love each other its okei, she is old enough to think for herself etc etc..

as i said, sadly incestuous feelings are much more entrenched than we think.. people think of incest when you physically rape your son,daughter..its much more than that..this later stage is the final later stage.. there are hundreds of earlier stages that people are oblivious to them and think they are just having fun and enjoying themselves ..

[–] mikedegot 11 years ago

Actually a 55 year old being attracted to a 17 year old is not pedophilia. Pedos are attracted to prepubescent children. A 17 year old is pretty much a sexually mature adult and would have been considered an adult depending on the time period or society.

To say that someone who is old shouldn't be attracted to a young adult is just silly. Ask an older person how they feel, most will say they feel the same mentally as they did when they were younger and that time feels like it's moving faster and faster. Heck I'm in my mid thirties and can barely believe it. You're damn right I'd be attracted to a 17 year old girl. I'd talk myself out of it due to the age difference and feeling awkward about it but it doesn't mean the initial attraction wouldn't happen. Nothing abnormal about noticing a pretty, younger adult. We still have eyes.

This film not only delved into the problems potentially arising from cloning loved ones but it really centered around a female's instincts and desire to have a child. Look at the scene where young Rebecca is looking at and feeling her stomach. She knows at that age that she will probably have the capability to bear a child. Her actions and obsession throughout the film are all centered around that desire. Tommy is who she sets her sights on for a mate. That's who she bonded to.

Tommy2's DNA was from his parents. Not her. She did not conceive a child with a close relative. That's the medical reason for avoiding incest, the increased potential for genetic defects. So what we're left with is the social squirminess of a parent figure desiring the person they helped raise. In a different society it wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. Both sides think they're right.

Remember, one of the top selling pornographic films of all time dealt with incest between a mother and son. And that was in Western Civilization. So there's obviously people on both sides of the fence even here. At least as far as fantasizing goes.

[–] sasa-anakijev 11 years ago

just if you FEEL like it doesn't mean its NATURAL.. you think its natural because you feel it like this and most of the guys feel it like this, ..i'm a guy and yes of course if i see a 16 year old very pretty girl its hard to not see her and for a second think of her..but that is instant of the brain noticing environment..when the mind keeps the picture in the head we have a problem Houston .. naturally speaking this is a defect, there is something pedophilic when older person is attracted to a younger one, especially if age difference is noticeble-more than 4-6 years.. psychological examination tells us the reason underlying reason for attraction towards children or young teenagers or adult teenager-legal age-is because a person hasn't had a fullfilling childhood and it is drawn to that age that in his mind he is stuck at.. he/she wants to relieve that age, moment that was for one reason or another stolen or not lived up to the fullest extent..

If you look at tribes, especially native american tribes marriage happened in early teenage years and among same age group, the elder wise-guy decided based on merit or most of the time just acknowledged two lovers into a marriage-union..there was no divorce since whatever problems this two would have it would be resolved by the community they lived,shared space and food with.. there was no "divorce" ..also there was no pedophilia.. pedophilia is a sickness coming from the technological modern man, who is lost, lost and has no childhood, even today, children have no childhood, since young age they are bombarded with pictures and movies of sex, 5-6 year old girls try to be sexy because this is what society tells them to do, young little boys acting like pimps for this is what works in movies.. what do you think this individual will be like in 20-40 years? be married and care for children or be a pedophile or criminal of other sorts since his childhood well he never had one anyway..

but thinking if you feel something naturally it is natural is wrong, it you examine yourself closely you will see how pathetic it is.. if a young sexy girl comes to me and tells me "hey do you want to hook up?" i would be repulsed in the most extreme way possible.." .. one might say but if she wants you and she is legal age -16 why not? well, that's the thing i was saying if one had a happy childhood there is no way one will find a 16 year or 18 year old girl as sexy..

the thing that many people do think of it this way only proves how sick the whole society is..not how normal this is.. imagine, if in 40 years 80% of parents will be having sex with children will that mean its normal? of course, if you ask the sick society if its normal they will say yes.. and children growing up in such a sick society will not have a choice or know better to say NO..