What the hell?
This was the most confusing movie ever, what the hell was it about?
P.S. first post :)
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I agree...at fist I thought the family of the main character had a curse, thats why family killed family. The people wanting to kill the girl had some sort of reason, the classmate=jealosy, the teacher=resentment because the other student left, the other student=who knows???, the mother=disobedience, her boyfriend=revenge (now that I think about it those people werent family except for the mother), but then when her younger sister tried to kill her she stabbed her, then she remembers that she stabbed her, I thought, But why would she stab her when there was no reason??? The other way around had more sense, the younger sister would feel that the main character was to blame for their parents death because the boyfriend killed them. But then the guy in black or pushy entity appeared before another teen...which means the curse wasnt tied to the family...this entity just appeared to anyone who had a resentement toward another....they made it look like it was a family thing but then it wasnt.
In another forum, somebody said that the main character was crazy and imagined that people were trying to kill her. I dont agree, like I said before, it was made to look like the family was cursed. Remember what happened to the first victim, the aunt not knowing why she killed her, not even remembering doing it.
Maybe, it is a family curse and the entity makes family members, friends or peole near kill the members of it.
I kind of thought the guy with the black hair was an Angel Of Death and when he touched the lead, everyone that had negative feelings towards her attempted to kill her.
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That makes sense. It could be a family curse and this "angel of death" is resposible for the curse being completed....making other people kill the chosen member of the family. The killers seem to loose control or dont remember doing the deed (remember the aunt not recalling murdering her sister in the hospital).
Yep. There is many possibilities, it's just one hell of a confusing movie where you have to figure out the twist by yourself.
shareya I had some trouble with it too. I want to say it's a good movie, cause it had lots of potential, but it was just too confusing. And what was the point of that monster?
shareThats whats fun about movies like this, they are excellent topics for conversations.
shareThe monster? The one that came in her dream? I think it was just a sign telling her that she's next for the curse.
And yup castlerock, that's true =P
I'm going to have to go and watch it again...
But anyway, notice how the only two people she had "flashes of death" in her mind about were the only two people who were never going to harm her. Her best friend and her sister. It almost seems like this creepy guy or curse is making everyone with resentment towards Ka-in (the main character) want to kill her (because having even the smallest reason is probably what seals the deal), and everyone that genuinely has no reason to hate her becomes a vision (implanted?) in Ka-in's head, just to make her completely on edge.
Only, she never killed her best friend on the balcony at school, probably because she fought the impulse and had no trigger, whereas her sister later gave Ka-in another flash and the trigger was the slow reach into the pocket.
The family curse thing is only a fabricated idea of the family to account for all of the violence that they were experiencing, due to multiple factors, like jealousy (wedding), and Ka-in's boyfriend's dead family (cause of the fire). On the tv at the beginning there were tons of accounts of deaths to absolutely anyone, so this "angel of death" is really just prodding anyone at all.
Her father was the only one who never had resentment towards her, and she also never had a vision to provoke her. Which is weird, but maybe it had something to do with the father understanding what she was going through, hence the recommended trip outta town.
The monster is the only thing now that I think was odd. It just didn't seem like such a drastic idea like a messed up looking monster was needed to "provoke" anyone (if that's what it was there for). I thought it may have something to do with that when it scared her in the locker room, but then when it showed it come through the window at her in the middle of the night I didn't see the reason. Unless grandpa was gonna kill her... but still. It was just at seemingly random times.
I hope I wasn't just stating the obvious here. I'm just trying to put things into a structured perspective for further conversation. :)
Everything you said made sense to me, it seems that every person sees something new or different that I didnt notice before. I bet if another person posted his or her point of view it would add something more....its fun :o)
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I rewatched it and tried to figure out what negative feelings the sister had. You can assume at one scene in the movie she is flipping through a scrap book of somekind of Ga-in and her boyfriend. Perhaps she was jealous of their relationship or had a crush on him herself. Did anyone else notice that when the Aunt was in the hospital the boyfriend became a doctor or something? I thought they were in high school! Anyway, the movie was very confusing. A lot of open ended questions such as, who was the family in the begining? If it was a family curse then was the boy licking up his own spit in the end a cousin? What the heck was the fire flash back about? What purpose did the flashback of the him and the father begging her family for money serve (to show envy of their wealth and happy family)? Who was the strange boy that kept saying don't trust anyone? How did the mom and dad know she was next and why didn't they warn her or stop it somehow? Was the old man who pushed his wife in front of the bus related to them? What happened to the friend that stopped the teacher and what was he jealous of that made him try to kill her outside her house when he brought the recommendation letter? Oh the list goes on and on and I'm tired of typing. I guess I'll read the book.
shareHaha yeah. Lots of possibilites, but I think I'll watch it again too.
shareCastlerock20002000 & anyone else, the way I see it is the one 'boy' isn't the Angel Of Death..he's A (perhaps Vengeful Ghost?) I'm leaning towards Daemon-specifically of Restentment-Hatred-Jealousy & Envy. Because at the end of the movie he shows up to a completely different person. The boy the teacher humiliates and he offers to help him get even..sort of like a Devils Pact.
Yes I think the family was cursed. And they were hiding it the best they could it was implied that the family had the problem that was occuring for a very long time, but it was also implied that it only affected the women-in THAT family. (which is why I don't think if affected her father..that is until hs death..which I think you can say affected him pretty adversely. LOL.)
I don't think she imagined anything. She saw all that stuff happening.
But the Daemon told her not to trust even herself..which to me implied that she would 'see' things. Which means she either thought her sister had a knife (when she didn't) OR she really did. Either way, he made her think that if she wanted it to end (her pact with the devil that she hadn't recalled making or perhaps someone else in her family made, possibly that grampa, because it looked like when the sisters died that entire family was either dead or had gone mad.) Because the Deamon taunted her, pretty much telling her she wouldn't be happy if she stabbed him, or at least strongly implying that--then when she did, because it was all her mind playing a trick on her..the daemon said Not to trust even herself..she realized she actually stabbed herself in the heart. It would look to the doctors like she stabbed her sister to death then felt so guilty she killed herself. (which released that Deamon from the pact with her, so he could move on to his next victim. that student the teacher was humiliating) That should have told him 'no' but we're lead to believe he said 'yes'.
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I agree with you KitsunegariBlu about the Daemon-specifically of Resentment-Hatred-Jealousy & Envy with some minor changes .In some cultures (Mostly Asian)it is believed that devil cannot make people do any thing physically but it can whisper in their hearts (since asian people believe that heart is source of good and bad desires) to commit sins using human weaknesses like envy ,greed etc. which explains why the main character stabbed her own heart when originally she intended to kill the devil/demon/entity.