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Look folks, it's not furry recuirement, that's just paranoid.


I may be new to the forum, but this movie wasn't made by furries and neither is it furry. As that furry is the fan of anthropomorphic and anthros(that's just the abbreviation of anthropomorphic). While the characters are anthros, this type known as feral, because the characters talk and have human like hair(am I the only one that finds that strange?) etc. Also any and all problems with furries can be attributed to the fact 7/10 of furries are teens and as we all know how crazy teenage years can be for individuals. Also before someone brings up furries and porn, most of it is rule34 by a individual outside of the group they just get the blame for it cause of the characters. Also, as many of you know don't believe what you read on encyclopediadramatica it is a satirical site and 4chan does not hate furries either. It's just a while back ago they got threatened with a lawsuit from a furry artist for allowing copyrighted material and there was a backlash from the users. Nor do furries think they have animal spirits, that is called otherkin which is a religion that doesn't have anything to do with them. Also there is no such thing as fursuit sex it is a about as common as someone beating the videogame contra without using cheat codes.

Tl;dr it's not furry
Furry is the fan of anthropomorphic
Anthro is the character
The characters in this movie are anthro not furry
Complaining about furries while on the internet is the pot calling the kettle black
Chill out people.

Citations:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8355287.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZoJfB1_Io&has_verified=1 (attack of the show)

Also before I go there are 7 main categories of furries.

Also before you start posting, please give citations for everything you say otherwise we don't know if you are actually telling the truth.

Also guy below me, so let me get this straight because mtv, which is a channel about music and music videos, makes a documentary it's suddenly fact? What if they say gravity isn't real, then we should start flapping our arms and all of a sudden we'll be able to fly?

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I saw a documentary from MTV about furries that negates pretty much everything you said, because it was made a long time ago before the internet was popular and 4chan was barely a blip on the radar. Heck, if not for furries, Rule 34 might not exist. Most furry art is made by "furverts," and a lot of them are NOT teenagers. Most of them started masturbating to Disney cartoons when they were teenagers instead of human beings, and now they see it as a "lifestyle" rather than just a sick fetish. Someone who has to expose themselves publicly is not part of the "flasher lifestyle," they simply have a sick need to expose themselves in order to be sexually aroused.

You can find the documentary on Youtube, but I don't recommend watching it unless you have a strong stomach. There is lots of NSFW stuff in there like sexually-oriented furry art, and footage demonstrating how the penis on a fur suit works. It's nasty stuff. If you really want to see how far the rabbit hole goes (oh no, look what I did there) though, and just how effed up furryism is, then you may wish to check it out.

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MTV documentary? Well there's your problem.

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Made by furries, for furries. O_o

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<<Made by furries, for furries. O_o>>

Yes your like totally right guys... The Two Directors who worked on the The Simpson's and rugrats must be secretly Furry! LoL

Is this a signature?

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Yeah, if someone believes this movie is furry they are beyond paranoid.

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Agreed...

Being in fandom to a small degree where you meet all kinds of people - many of them call them "foxfu~~kers" or whatever woodland creature. They ARE guys dressed as female furries and playing the role. And there are strange sex parties as well as camsex, etc. Geeze theres some that are into Dragon on Horse sex!?!

As strange as I consider them... as long as what they are doing is consenting, who gives a frack? More problems in life that what someone does inside an animal costume.

From reviews and previews, this is a stupid movie - riding the 3D Animation wave, thinking that throwing crap together will make them money like PIXAR. They don't get it, Pixar spends years developing a movie, its a whole team effort.

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What makes this movie any more "furry" than any other films with animals in them? -.-"

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It's not furry, it's anthropomorphic.

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Yeah, I know, what I ment was how has this got anymore to do with the furry fandom than any other movie with talking animals. =/
(And sorry, that message wasn't ment to be directed at you.) D:

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It doesn't have anything to do with the furry fandom.
The people that say it does are either paranoid or idiots or both.

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Or trolls. Learn 2 Internet.

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It's not furry, it's anthropomorphic.

That's like saying, "It's not anime, it's Japanese animation."

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I tend to agree. Besides, who cares if it's furry. It's a damn good movie. I'm a furry, and I like this movie. I know plenty of furries who didn't like it, and I know plenty of non-furries who do like it. I'm pretty sure if furries made this movie then everyone in the fandom would know >.> I assure you it wasn't.

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It's not anthro either

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From dictionary.com-


an·thro·po·mor·phic
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–adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, esp. to a deity.

Human speech is a human attribute. Therefore, this is indeed anthro.

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Coming from the guy with lynx in his name, also you are linking us to a sonic forum, what is the matter with you?
It's sonic fans!

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I don't know how to put this any other way than to type down about 30 pages worth of text, so I'll try to compress how I feel about the whole thing into a couple of paragraphs.

No, this is not a "Furry Film", and it never will be simply because an ever-growing fandom says it is. No, animated cartoon animals are not automatically "Furries" again simply because they think so. The real term for animated cartoon animals is "Funny Animals", not "Furries". The term "Furry" will always be different to one person's standards or another, but it is more or less a hobby (sometimes taken too far or considered a "way of life" by some of them) in which people dress up like animals or whatnot. Simply drawing animal art or being a fan of anthro character in the media doesn't magically deem you a Furry, otherwise nearly everyone in existence would automatically be considered a Furry simply because they watched a Bugs Bunny cartoon and liked it. Wearing black clothing doesn't automatically make one a Goth, so being a fan of animated animals/drawing animals doesn't automatically mean you a a Furry, despite what the majority of them believe or want you to believe. In truth, it's become more of a stereotype, to which some feel that anything you do that involves animals (regardless of the type) automatically nets you the name "Furry", but it is simply not true. It all depends on just how far you take it, but making a film with animals in it and/or watching films/cartoons/tv shows with animals in it, again, doesn't automatically make you "Furry", nor does it mean you are supporting that name.

Let the Furries think it is a film that represents them if it lets them sleep better at night. I don't agree with them, nor find any logic in their reasoning's at all, so I just tend to ignore them. Life goes on either way.

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freezing_ice_kirby-1, I couldn't of said it better myself. Great post!

Is this a signature?

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Hey - I'm a furry and I don't like this movie.

Not because it's "too tame" (I love tamer stuff than this - "Citizen Kane" being one), but because it's unoriginal. It's just a love story adapted for wolves. And plus, considering Dennis Hopper's illness last year, this movie was probably made before the "wolfaboos" began to join in.

And about the MTV documentary: that's one type of furry. Furries have seen that - they say the "furverts" are the ones who stereotype the fandom. Those people obsessed with dressing up like wolves, collecting wolf plushies, and engaging in sex that even Woody Allen won't write about - it actually sickens me.

However, like all fandoms, the furries have a sort of sexual connotation. I bet there's Simpsons fans and Trekkies alike who can only do it while dressed like a Springfieldian or a Klingon. No fandom is safe from sex.

And plus, hasn't mainstream media accepted something more sickening than a bunch of Jim McAllister and Bill Maplewood rejects via the efforts of John Waters and Billy Wilder? Don't we watch "Hairspray" and "Some Like It Hot" and think about crossdressers?

Plus, I'm not that impotent to wear a costume. I don't even want to wear a costume. It's embarrassing - it's insane. It's pointless!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW7m9NJa_xE

You know guys, no one's forcing you to be a furry. We choose it. You don't want to that's fine. Don't like it? That's fine too, just be civil about it. No fandom is safe from sex, it's just the whole yiff thing got exploited on a rather dull episode of CSI and now everyone thinks that's all we do. As Grissom said "The Only Unnatural sex is none" So whatever you do in the bedroom is your thing, as everyone as their own weird kinks. So can't we all just get along for once and not have a flame war over this?

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Exactly.

I'm a furry, and I can assure you that I'm not a pervert. I simply have a greater-than-average appreciation for the anthropomorphism of other animals (particularly canines.) It doesn't inherently have anything to do with sexuality; that's just the aspect that's been played up, because let's face it--you can grab people's attention by tying sex into anything. And yes, it's there; that's undeniable. But it's not nearly as "bad" as it's made out to be. It's merely...different from non-furriness. That's all, really.
I've met far more furries who are intelligent, friendly, kind, funny, interesting, talented, good-hearted, decent, and all-around awesome people, than ones who are creepy and sex-obsessed. "Normal" might not quite be the right word for us, since we tend to have many quirks and idiosyncrasies that set us apart...but on the whole, we're no more likely to be "perverted weirdos" than your average Joe off the street.

And frankly, if people get turned on by characters, and like to yiff in their fursuits...so what? That's not wrong. What's actually pervy about it? You can name just about anything under the sun, and somebody somewhere has likely got a fetish for it. They use whatever it may be to get stimulated. So long as no other creature is being abused, harmed, or violated in the process, then nothing is wrong with that. Furryism is light years away from zoophilia or bestiality (the act of actually violating a real, live animal in a sexual manner, or having the desire to do so.)

Just about everyone appreciates anthropomorphism to some degree. If you've ever enjoyed a Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny cartoon, you're familiar with its appeal. It's also undeniable that many such characters are deliberately designed to be attractive. (Who's going to say that Minerva Mink or Lola Bunny or Sasha LaFleur isn't sexy, or supposed to be sexy?) Whether it's a girl dressed as a cat, or a character (or deity...) blending human and non-human traits in some combination, this idea has always been around. Furryism really isn't all that strange, if you ask me. I wasn't even aware that there was a term or a worldwide community/fandom for it until 2003, when a new friend exposed me to that and I went, "Omg!! Brethren...!!" Obviously, I'm sure I would have found out not too long afterward, anyway. Something like that (and otherkin) couldn't continue to remain unknown to me.

It's the anthropomorphism and the fictionality that are key. You're appreciating all aspects of the characters, even if human speech is the only anthropomorphic quality. When you find a "furry" character "hot," I find that you're typically a) envisioning yourself as a fellow anthro, thereby making it totally okay, b) conceiving of a world in which anthros are essentially human equivalents (such as "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"), thereby making inter-species relationships involving humans fully acceptable and unquestioned, and/or c) simply appreciating the characters for who they are and saying, "Yes, this one is certainly attractive for the ones with whom s/he is interacting in this story/world."

Rule 34 would hold true without help from furries, I'm quite certain. It's rather amusing how folks can make such claims as this above:

Most furry art is made by "furverts," and a lot of them are NOT teenagers. Most of them started masturbating to Disney cartoons when they were teenagers instead of human beings, and now they see it as a "lifestyle" rather than just a sick fetish. Someone who has to expose themselves publicly is not part of the "flasher lifestyle," they simply have a sick need to expose themselves in order to be sexually aroused.


Oh, yes? You have spoken to every furry artist and, by virtue of your nonexistent degree in Psychology, deemed the majority of them "furverts?" True, LOTS of sexual furry art exists. No one could deny this. Plenty of explicitly sexual art exists, period. And true, we cover all age groups. But such pointless, juvenile, groundless assumptions are laughable. Try to explain to me what exactly is "sick" about any of this? An exhibitionist creates a problem for all the others around him or her who very much do not wish to witness flashing. A furry who is so much a "lifestyler" that he or she requires elements of furriness in order to become aroused (and that would account for only a portion of furries, definitely not all--because I, for instance, am not one) doesn't bother anybody else. There's no harm there for anyone.

It would be a different story if somebody got all up in your face, getting naughty with their fursuits in public, forcing you to look at erotic imagery against your will--but that's by and large not the case at all. If you want to see the sexual side of furriness, you've got to look for it deliberately, or at least visit a website at which it's present. If someone's forcing unwanted furry stuff upon you, then odds are, it's their OTHER issues (exhibitionism, narcissism, histrionic behavior, perhaps?) that constitute the REAL problem.

I like you, Um. I like largeness...

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