Question about boxing and hands


I knew nothing about boxing, but I saw the documentary on TV and had a question:

(Spoilers for documentary below)




One of the big revelations in the documentary is that Rusto also had plaster in his gloves. Up until that point in the documentary I wondered what was it that had kept Rusto from breaking his hands.

I assume that gloves protect your hands as much as the person you're punching. Was this ever explored when the case broke? It seems that once they concluded that the gloves were hollow of padding that it follows that he must have done something else as well. I've never punched anyone, so I don't know. I'm just curious.

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I think you're missing the point and design of a boxing glove. You are correct that a boxing glove is designed to protect the fighters hands, that is it's one and only purpose. A boxing glove is NOT designed to protect the person you are punching. A boxer's hands are his weapons, and those weapons must be able to inflict damage over the course of a fight. In order to this, they must be protected, hence the gloves.

You must understand that a boxer does not just put gloves on his hands and go fight. First the hands are prepped, small pads placed on the knuckles, then the hands are wrapped heavily with tape. This tape hand wrap is much like a cast itself. Once the hand wraps are put on, then the gloves are placed over the wraps. The combination of these two things protects the hands. The glove two main functions are padding for the hands, and preventing the fighter from making a fully closed fist. When you hit somebody or something with a completeley closed fist the odds of injuring your hands greatly increase.

But anyway, the plaster goes over the hand wraps, so it's not directly on the hands. Some of the padding from the gloves is removed to give the hardened plaster more of an impact. The gloves are not completely void of padding. As the fight goes on, the fighters hands begin to sweat, and the moisture in turns hardens the plaster. So as the fight goes on, the more effective the gloves will be. The plaster generally has no effect on the fighter's hands that is throwing the punches...

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That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.

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Not to throw confusion into the subject or start a debate, but I wanted to add a few things to what you said.

First, the padded gloves are to protect both the fighter's hands AND the opponent from damage. A person with properly, and legally, wrapped hands can basically punch as hard as they want without hurting themselves. The wrapping is to help keep the bones in the hands in place, making it less likely of them to spread, and thus break, upon a heavy impact at the knuckles.

In other words, with wrapped hands and no padding, it would be like a bareknuckle match where the fighter doesn't have to worry about holding back/breaking his hands (unless he simply has small-boned, unconditioned hands), thus allowing for more dangerously forceful blows. Yes some fighters still manage to break their hands nonetheless, even with wraps and gloves. However, the wraps are the primary contributing factor to protecting the hands.

The padding not only helps further to protect the fighter's hands, it also deadens some of the impact to the opponent; much needed because of the now wrapped hands.

Also, without the padded gloves, fights wouldn't be nearly as tactful and entertaining because fighters wouldn't be able to take as many punches without being knocked out early (again, opponent protection). Gloves also prevent accidental eye gouging from loose fingers.

Lots of little, thoughtful reasons for them.

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Thanks. I had wondered about the impact to the other fighter. That's what prompted my question in part.

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I haven't seen this yet, I'm watching it tonight. The gloves protect the hands and face, but you can hit much harder with padded fists. If you remove some of the padding it may make the gloves lighter but still have enough protection for the hands. If the gloves are lighter you would have faster hands. I've heard that the bare knuckle era was bloodier but fighters had less brain damage. The gloves allow much harder punches.

What we have here is failure to communicate!

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I disagree with the statement , "A boxing glove is NOT designed to protect the person you are punching," (alone) and as proof I offer the face of BC after the fight. I believe the gloves have 2 purposes, protecting the hands and limiting damage to the person being punched.

Punches are a concussive event. The blow, causes the brain to bounce around in the bony box where it resides. Damage to the boxers hands and the face/bones of the skull is not necessarily desireable. Theres nothing sweeter than a perfect punch and watching the lights go out. Bam.......... one, two, three...........

What I don't understand is how the referee, couldn't tell, by simply looking aty the gloves, or after a few rounds of seeing Collins tomato can-erized, AND Collins telling his corner, "this guys hands feel like bricks"....why the fight wasn't halted to examine the gloves. Collins was 14-0, and Resto 20-8-2, new it was now or never.

Resto and Lewis were lucky Collins didn't die in the ring. it would have been murder observed by 20,000.

As you can plainly witness, seeing the life style of Lewis and Resto towards the end of the film..... karma is alive and well.










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http://www.murphybrothers.org/Spartaca/Bareknuckle.htm

What we have here is failure to communicate!

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Thanks. I didn't realize that they could stop the fight to examine the gloves, even before it was over. As I said, I know nothing of boxing, but wondered why it wasn't obvious that something was up.

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I disagree with the statement , "A boxing glove is NOT designed to protect the person you are punching," (alone) and as proof I offer the face of BC after the fight. I believe the gloves have 2 purposes, protecting the hands and limiting damage to the person being punched.

Punches are a concussive event. The blow, causes the brain to bounce around in the bony box where it resides. Damage to the boxers hands and the face/bones of the skull is not necessarily desireable. Theres nothing sweeter than a perfect punch and watching the lights go out. Bam.......... one, two, three...........

What I don't understand is how the referee, couldn't tell, by simply looking aty the gloves, or after a few rounds of seeing Collins tomato can-erized, AND Collins telling his corner, "this guys hands feel like bricks"....why the fight wasn't halted to examine the gloves. Collins was 14-0, and Resto 20-8-2, new it was now or never.

Resto and Lewis were lucky Collins didn't die in the ring. it would have been murder observed by 20,000.

As you can plainly witness, seeing the life style of Lewis and Resto towards the end of the film..... karma is alive and well.




You make no sense. The difference in a punch with a glove and without a glove is the padding. The only protection the opponent has is from suffering structual damage in the face (cuts, losing vision from damage eye, broken eye socket or cheek bone).

The consussion is actually increased with gloves on because the gloves helps the Boxer not limit the force of the punch due to not being cautious about breaking his hand as compare to when he throws a bare knuckle punch while worrying about hurting his hand.

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The consussion is actually increased with gloves on because the gloves helps the Boxer not limit the force of the punch due to not being cautious about breaking his hand as compare to when he throws a bare knuckle punch while worrying about hurting his hand.


Thanks. I didn't see your reply sooner.

That was the reasoning that prompted my question.

I've enjoyed the debate.

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