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did anyone thought the Hmong gang members were the good guys?


I did because they did save Thao's ass from the Hispanic gang, they did appear to be the good guys at first.

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And like any other gang member, they are thuggish, overtestosteroned, and dumb as a bag of rocks!

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You mean the one's with the gay spoiler on the back of their Car?

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Gang members... the good guys? Nope.


Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

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nope at first we got the impression they were "suppose" to be only because they showed up when the latino's were there causing trouble and after all because they were asian like thao we thought they were the saviors. of course they was a short term illusion we were to see.

turned out they were possibly worse than the other guys.

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i bet they have a good basketball team.


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Yeah they started off good but then turned into c u n t s

And since when would someone do that to their own family?



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Not really at all. They knew they could lure Spider's young cousin into the gang life.

They were a plague on the neighborhood from the start.



"I can't help but notice that there are skulls all over everything. Are we the baddies?"

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I could really do without gang "culture" in the U.S.A.

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I really could do without sexist, racist, bullying, thuggish, overtestosteroned, dumb as a bag of rocks, old peckerwoods in the U.S.A. too.

I didn't like the gang members because they were just as bad as Walt, but I cheered when Walt's old ass was removed from planet earth.

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I really could do without sexist, racist, bullying, thuggish, overtestosteroned, dumb as a bag of rocks, old peckerwoods in the U.S.A. too.


Without whom you wouldn't have 1/1,000,000th of the comforts you enjoy now.

You really should learn how to judge a person on what they do and not what they say or how they say it.

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Other countries have comforts too and they didn't get them by stealing people's land or enslaving an entire race of humans, among other things macho idiot rednecks have done.


By the way - Anthony Sowell helped his neighbors fix things and he mowed an elderly person's grass for them. Anthony Sowell was also a serial killer. You should really learn not to be so gullible.

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Other countries have comforts too and they didn't get them by stealing people's land or enslaving an entire race of humans, among other things macho idiot rednecks have done.


Psst. Hey, dumbazz. Most countries on earth have dealt with slavery and mass killings in their past. Just because it happened later in history in the US doesn't make the other countries less guilty.


By the way - Anthony Sowell helped his neighbors fix things and he mowed an elderly person's grass for them. Anthony Sowell was also a serial killer. You should really learn not to be so gullible.


Do you have an actual point there, or just like pulling things out of your anus? Because it has nothing to do with this movie. Walt wasn't a serial killer. There is nothing to say he ever was other than your delusions.

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justanickedname - Interesting. Please tell me all about how Norwegians stole Norway from an entire race of people, and then enslaved another. Because I have never read that, but according to you, every country on earth has done the same barbaric things Americans have done.


In regards of Anthony Sowell: You brought up about all the kind things Walt did, implying that it made him a good person, so I brought up the polite happenings of Sowell to make a point that just because you do kind things for people doesn't make you a good person instantly.

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zeetard82 - Get some basic reading comprehension. You'll still be a retard, but it will help a little bit. This is what I said.

Most countries on earth have dealt with slavery and mass killings in their past


In regards of Anthony Sowell:


It was still and idiotic, invalid point. Walt wasn't simply a good guy because he did kind things, he was a good guy because he was a good guy. He never murdered anyone. He never went out of his way to hurt people.

Your comparison makes about as much sense as comparing you to Hugh Hefner. You both are men and have talked to women, but, unlike you, Hef didn't have sex with thousands and thousands of men.

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He never murdered anyone? That hick brags in the picture about killing several Koreans. It's bad when someone else has to teach you about your favorite film, especially when that someone else didn't even like the movie.

The cave beast also pointed a gun at three unarmed African-Americans. Since some rednecks love to talk about how great things were "back in the day" (translation: During the Jim Crow era when white people were on top in society and everyone else was at the bottom).....you would think more peckerwoods would be disgusted with Walt's actions since aiming a revolver at a man or men carrying no weapons was consider unmanly in the "old days". Typical hillbilly hypocrisy.

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He never murdered anyone? That hick brags in the picture about killing several Koreans.


Hey, idiot. He NEVER brags about killing any Koreans. He regrets having to do so, and that is why he doesn't want Thoa to kill the gang members. If you weren't picking out your new dress for after your sex-change operation and paid attention to the movie, you'd have know that.

Also, if you weren't a retard, you'd understand the difference between a soldier killing another soldier during a time of war and murder.

The cave beast also pointed a gun at three unarmed African-Americans.


The thugs he pointed the gun at were assaulting Sue and her friend.

aiming a revolver at a man or men carrying no weapons


Some things just SCREAM out that you are a retarded little pansy. First off, that you can't tell the difference between a revolver and a semi-automatic weapon.

Secondly, whine about Walt defending Sue and her friend from three thugs who were assaulting them - especially when those three were much bigger than Sue and her friend.

You are one of those p&ssies who p!ss their pants anytime they see a gun on TV or the movies, aren't you?

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LMAO!!!!!! Oh my gosh. I can't believe you actually replied already!!!!!!! Holy cow! I was only joking about you not having a life, but you really don't, do you!? Wow. Your response time has got to be a record. Unbelievable! Do you just literally sit on some old movie's IMDB message board all day? This is insanely sad, dude. Well, I'm not going to respond to you yet. I haven't even read your post. Not going to until I'm bored again. Which could be tomorrow or in a week or six months or longer. But I have no doubt you will still be here regardless. LOL! For now I will type in response to your post -


Everything you typed is BS.



Thank you!


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Again, it says loads about your lack of character and intelligence when you refuse to address any issues directly. As in -

Hey, idiot. He NEVER brags about killing any Koreans. He regrets having to do so, and that is why he doesn't want Thoa to kill the gang members. If you weren't picking out your new dress for after your sex-change operation and paid attention to the movie, you'd have know that.

Also, if you weren't a retard, you'd understand the difference between a soldier killing another soldier during a time of war and murder.


And -

The thugs he pointed the gun at were assaulting Sue and her friend.

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whine about Walt defending Sue and her friend from three thugs who were assaulting them

And most especially -

You are one of those p&ssies who p!ss their pants anytime they see a gun on TV or the movies, aren't you?

I'll also add this, just like your sex-life, you want to have it both ways. You want to rip on me about replying already, when you've at least a half-dozen replies in the past hour or so.

How does it feel to be a hypocritical pansy, you little sh!t stain?

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I am replying to posts that are several months old to kill time. You however instantly reply within minutes to things I type. You live on this board.

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You replied at least a half-dozen times in just about an hours time.

You are a little pansy hypocrite.

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I reply to different threads when I visit here. And I don't spend an hour on here. That's your thing.

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Thank you for admitting you are a hypocrite, moron.

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1. When Walt first points his gun at the Asian gang members who were on his lawn, he talks about what he used to do Koreans during the Korean war. He also never expressed regret over killing human beings. Again, pretty bad when someone else has to teach you about a movie you like, that they didn't like.


2. What is the difference between a criminal ordering someone to go murder people and the United States government ordering a human being to go murder folks?


3. Those men were unarmed.


4. You're right. I know nothing about instruments that are used to take a life. That's because I'm not a sadist.

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he talks about what he used to do Koreans during the Koeran war.


Right. Again, that is during war so it isn't murder. Also, in that situation where people are being beaten, should he have talked about flowers and love and can't we all get along?

He also never expressed regretted killing human beings.


Bullsh!t, you moron. He did so when he was talking with Thao about what they were going to do just before he locked Thao up.

What is the difference between a criminal ordering someone to go murder people and the United States government ordering a human being to go murder folks?


You are an idiot if you need this explained. Almost every established country in the world has sent soldiers off to fight in wars, even historically peaceful countries. That doesn't make it murder.

Those men were unarmed.


Which doesn't mean they were innocent or not dangerous. Would you feel safe if those three "gentlemen" approached you and your boyfriend in the same manner they approached Sue and her friend? If they beat you with their hands and feet would you not press charges against them because they were "unarmed?"

You're right. I know nothing about instruments that are used to take a life.


So you don't know about knives and razors? Because knives and razors account for more deaths than guns do. You don't know about cars? Cars have been used to kill people. Same with rope, and cleaning chemicals, and hands and fists and feet.

You don't know about them because you are an idiot who can't think for herself.

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1. You support a government that sends people to go kill other humans who did nothing to them, and then violence is accepted and applauded on a mainstream level. That is hypocritical nonsense and not enough citizens realize that. I can't expect you to understand because you're a lap dog. Anything the law allows, you consider to be the holy gospel.


2. I don't date men because that's a sin, and I believe pulling a gun on unarmed people is a sign of weakness. So Walt wasn't as tough as you think.


3. Cars were not made to kill. Guns however were created with one purpose only - What is that purpose, Sir?

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1. You support a government that sends people to go kill other humans who did nothing to them


That only works if you live somewhere that the government has never done the same thing. So, again, you are a hypocrite.

2. I don't date men because that's a sin,


So is sharing a bed with "women" as you have admitted, hypocrite.

I believe pulling a gun on unarmed people is a sign of weakness.


That's because you are a stupid pansy who keeps avoiding the issue at hand - he did that when the thugs were assaulting Sue and her friend. What should Walt, and elderly man done, come out swinging? Call the police? Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

You are too much of a pansy to have stood up in that situation. You would have p!ssed your tampon and ran away leaving Sue and her friend at the mercy of the thugs assaulting them.

How about you actually address that - how Sue and her friend were being assaulted when Walt stepped up and stopped it?

Guns however were created with one purpose only - What is that purpose, Sir?


To shoot a projectile out of it. God dam are you stupid or what? Again, it isn't the object that is the problem, it is the person using the object. Car's weren't meant to kill, but we know that if you drive one while drunk you very much risk killing someone. And the numbers don't lie; more people are killed by bladed weapons than by guns.

Plus, as is always the way with idiot cowards like you, you completely ignore the fact that Thao, Sue and her friend all had their lives saved because Walt had guns.

Little pansies like you never seem to remember that Walt's coming out onto his yard with his rifle saved Thao's life and that him pulling his weapon on the thugs assaulting Sue and her friend saved their lives as well.

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@justanicknamed

Typical gun-loving think-they're-always-right macho right-winger calling everyone who disagrees with you a "pansy" (that's how I know you're definitely an old dude, because nobody even uses that term anymore) what a laugh.

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Hey, come breath. Show me where I'm wrong.

You won't because you can't.

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yep your a *beep* idiot alright. As far as war vs murder goes, here's a newsflash moron, when a country goes to wat against another country that is technologically inferior and still uses armaments from Pre-World War 2 era, then that's pretty much murder, and not "war". No matter how much your retarded trump voting hick ass wants to believe otherwise.

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Ahh, another snowflake triggered. How was your march on Saturday? Did you take enough tampons along?

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Those people had more balls than a gun loving hick like you will ever have. Herp derp. WEEEEEE LOOK AT ALL MY NEATO GUNS, TIME TA GO SHOOT SUM INJUNS ND *beep* WONDER WEN WE GOIN TA GO TA WAR AGAIN. BRB POLISHING MY CARBINE 4 RUSSIAN INVASION. Yep your an idiot alright. And you being a backwoods hillbilly, heres another schooling. Guns account by far, as the most used weapon in all violent crimes in the states, per capita. A gun is far more likely to result in mass fatalities, than a knife. BRB going to make an obvious attempt at lame rebuttal for you by citing mass knife attacks in China.

Now, I await your response on the next 15 minutes.

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BINGO!



What? You mean we aren't playing "liberal buzz-word BINGO?" Awww, but you had them all of them. 

In addition, you did a great job in showing the true nature of liberals - hate filled, ignorant, bigoted hypocrites.

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I know this is 3 years old, but check out "Black" Norwegians. They were an underclass when my great grandfather was a kid in Norway back around 1900. Black hair, dark skin, not true Norwegians. My Norwegian side is Saami.
It was quite the underclass for a while and perhaps still is. I don't know, but I don't live in Norway.
https://www.newsinenglish.no/2016/03/24/sami-still-battling-discrimination/

Also, the Swedes completely controlled Norway for quite some time causing old Norwegian people in MN to still have a big feud with the Swedes.

Also, the Vikings did their fair hand and slaughter and plunder throughout those years as they raided up and down the coasts.

Also, google the term "Thrall".

Also, Norwegians are racists just like everyone else.
https://universitas.no/nyheter/63784/yes-norway-that-s-racist/

Norway is the happiest country in the world and they do a good job in pretending that they've never done anything wrong and have not problems ever.

America is an easy target. Every country has been or is evil to some extent. Look at Canada's treatment of First Nation people. Compare and contrast to the United States treatment of Native Americans. Discuss...

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Instead of crying yourself to sleep tonight, read a history book, or get your boyfriend to read one to you.

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"Just as bad as Walt"? You are kidding, right? At least Walt did his best to get along with the Hmongs later on, and helped Thao get his life back on track. And he didn't rape anybody either, unlike the gang!

The gang members were just barbaric evil *beep* who had no respect for anyone but themselves.

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Yes they were the good guys - Anyone gang member that rapes his own cousin is always good. : /

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Why yes, you are right! And they also helped Thao's sister lose her virginity. They were truly "angels" in disguise. 😢

nobody lives forever...

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They raped a girl and were bullies to Thao, and you still think they were good guys?

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