What is it with these "perfect love" stories. He could have had kids with her! Marriage as an institution ONLY exists to secure procreation of the species. Marry both for all I care, but why is Hollywood keep spewing out this propaganda that you can only love one "special" person?
Seriously I didn't get the movie. The drama was silly. I could only say WTF about the pool scenes, brainless girls prancing around in bikini isn't that a bit sexist? The average age of the girls in the movie was like 19. Sure they made fun about it, but to increase sales of the movie they stuffed it with barely legal girls. Why then be so hypocritical and not have Billy marry his young fiance, at least they both get something out of it. Hypocritical "do as I say, not as I do" *beep*
I agree. Question for anyone: Why do you just want to get married? Then, if you have an answer for that question that focuses on that topic alone, then ask yourself what's your goals for life while during that marriage. Jesus, for an engineer, I sound like a sociologist or Morgan Freeman. I like his role in The Bucket List, especially the scene where he discussed meaningful lives with Jack Nicholson at the Pyramids.
But there is a societal / cultural link. If men went around banging every chick that got them horny, then dumped them before the babies popped out, we'd have an epidemic of unwed mothers and / or abortions + unwanted children.
Come to think of it, that kinda describes our current situation, and it probably results from the decoupling of marriage and procreation.
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It was a bit too pious for me, the way it culminated in an engagement to a "suitable" woman. There was nothing early on in the film to indicate that he and Lisa had anything other than a close, honest relationship that could have succeeded. It didn't necessarily *have* to be moribund, just because she was younger. And 32 is certainly old enough to know your own mind, she was hardly an inept teenager. Superficial, hectoring drivel.
Umm, yeah it is. It is anomaly, especially in the western world. Sure, rich, older men with younger wives is normal is wealthy social enclaves, but statistically, it isn't the norm. And further, statistics show that marriages with large age gaps have higher rates of divorce than when couples are closer in age.
Hollywood loves to pump out stories with huge age gaps between couples and pass it off as normal (perhaps because these studio execs are apart of those rich social enclaves), but it really isn't. And most women DO NOT want to be with men that much older than themselves; a few years to up to a decade, sure, but not old enough to be their fathers.
thats exactly what i though. We are supposed to believe that he's in love with this woman he met a day or so before and so throws away the other relationship. The writers in hollywood can't seem to write anything beyond the formulas they learnt in film/writing school. They could have had the exact same character development without the overused and illogical idea that two people with an age gap can't possibly really be in love.
The writers in hollywood can't seem to write anything beyond the formulas they learnt in film/writing school. They could have had the exact same character development without the overused and illogical idea that two people with an age gap can't possibly really be in love.
I liked the film, and I find it funny that you'd harp on Marriage, and then complain about girls in skimpy bikinis. It's a movie about Las Vegas, be prepared for jokes about Bachelor/Bachelorette Parties, skimpily dressed women, douchebag bros, vibrant sparkling poolside's, loud popular music... the works.
I found the relationship between Billy and the Lounge singer to be very shoehorned, two and a half days in Vegas and it's true love? But he did schmaltz around the end that maybe he really wanted to marry her to make him feel young again, otherwise he's just an old schmuck creeping closer to death... maybe like a mid-life crisis?
Marriage has nothing to do with procreation, really... you can get pregnant without being married, loads of women do it, and I think marriage is becoming a dated concept... still, a lot of people want to believe there is a one and only out there for them.
Yeah, the trophy wife sounds like fun, but it takes a lot of energy to keep up with a younger person. Even more to match the sexual needs. And how much would you have in common? Someone that much younger would mostly be a companion. Beyond the physical beauty, I'm much happier being with someone close to my age.
Hear hear, jondoe! There's no way she'd be with him if not for the money. What is it with geezers looking to marry the young? Marriage isn't only about sex. What's wrong with someone closer to your age who can interest you intellectually as well?
When you have money, the power, confidence and status will all follow. Remember that rap song from the 90's "First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the respect."
So in the end, it's all about the benjamins baby....
It's not always about the power, confidence, etc. Now this kid Billy had definitely wanted to be treated like a queen with some nice expensive gifts going her way. However, some women, especially when they are retired, have a nice savings account, etc. don't need frivilous expensive stuff, but rather a nice budget to travel, see things they haven't because they were too busy working and raising a family, while preparing for after retirement, just to say "I don't need a Ferrari badly, but a nice vacation couldn't hurt" by being comfortably well off.
You're both delusional if you think there's no way an older person and a younger person can have common interests. Besides, you can still apply this logic to people who date/marry within the same age range and yet still don't have 'common interests' or are 'intellectually compatible'.
Urgh, way to miss the entire point of the break-up.
Billy was marrying his trophy wife because she made him feel superficially younger. He says at the end that his mind cannot comprehend how old his body truly is. It wasn't true happiness; it was a facade on Billy's part so he wouldn't focus on the fact that he's around 70 and nearing his deathbed. Why d'ya think he proposed at the funeral? He realised he was about to expire, and he hoped getting married will give him some mental back-up. Plus, he'd never been married before and he assumed he was never gonna get another chance, so he went for it.
As for the girl, she was a gold-digger. Remember the exchange "Actually she's your age!" "You must be realllllly rich!"
So if Billy got married to her, he'd just wind up with the gold-digging whore who'd sap him of all his money on his deathbed, and he'd still die a lonely old man. For all we know, she probably planned to divorce him within a few months and just run with his money. They were never in love.
It would've been mighty sappy if Billy and Diane went to marry at the chapel immediately after the break-up (it also would've set up a cheap gag, with the priest marrying Billy and the woman he was previously told was his mum). But they didn't. The pair wanted to feel out the relationship and make sure they were right for each other, and a few months later, they decided to tie the knot.
Normally this type of chestnut annoys me, but the laughs are built around a solid, dramatic, character-based narrative foundation. There's real depth and heart here. Shame you missed it and just liked the idea of the old Billy banging the young gold-digging skank. Urgh.
Getting married to the younger girl was almost a marriage of convenience. She made him feel younger, while he was rich and had no dependents. They mentioned it enough times in the movie, about his enormous Beach House and how he must be reeally rich. He sort of jokes about it himself with her Father, saying how fast she organised the engagement party. He had doubts even then, but when Paddy asked him if he loved her, it was obvious for everyone he didn't.
The lounge singer saw him for who he was and wasn't afraid to call him out on the way he was. Calling him a shmuck, saying he wasn't as charming as he thinks he is, and asking how young the girl was, whom he was marrying. She also made him laugh and you could tell he enjoyed her company and seemed like he was actually 'in the moment' when he was with her and not thinking about something else like he seemed to with the young girl.
I thought it was well done, they didn't jump in to bed or get married right away, they just enjoyed each others company, and it grew from there.
I really enjoyed this movie and I think it's the relationships between the main characters which make it.