doesn't the Time Turner ruin everything.


from the prisoner of Azkaban?

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Yes
Anytime something bad happens they would be looking for a timeturner to fix it

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The whole point was that the more time you went back, the worse it could be. A timeturner had to be used wisely, diligently, and in a limited way only. Otherwise, the consequences could be enormous.

An hour or two would be relatively less-dangerous, but it still could only be trusted to the most fastidious and trustworthy wizards. In the end, that would be very few wizards at all, as the temptation would be great to use it for nefarious means.

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Yes, which is why Rowling included a line in one of the books saying that Britain's entire supply of Time Turners had been destroyed.

You'll never catch her out in a plot hole!

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sorry George you can't have your brother Fred back, but Cedric Diggory let's bring him back and ruin his life...

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That's not a plot hole.

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I always thought that was a cheap way out. "Oh, uh...all the time travel is, uh...gone..."

The real problem, I think, is that the device was never put to good use before they were destroyed. So much pain and suffering could be avoided through the use of the time turners, but they use them to...let Hermione take extra classes. Oh, and save Buckbeak. They alter time to save the hippogriff, but not Harry's family, or Neville's, or anybody's.

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If you asked Rowling, she'd probably say that the Ministry of Magic owns all the bloody things and they have a strict policy against using them for anything people actually want - such as saving loved ones from horrific fates.

Saving Buckbeak wasn't legal, after all.

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That's why I'm mostly questioning why Harry, Ron, and Hermione didn't make better use of the thing while they had it.

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Oh, I think they made good use of the thing when they had it, which wasn't for long. And which was when they were what, 13-14 years old?

They managed to right quite a lot of wrongs for kids of that age, and Dumbledore took it back shortly after they realized how much potential the thing had, so they didn't get a chance to go back and save Harry's parents or anything.


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Dumbledore didn't want to use it to go back and defeat Voldemort, huh? He's not exactly a strict rule-follower.

And, again, they had it and used it to save Buckbeak, not prevent numerous horrors that had occurred far greater than the loss of the hippogriff.

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Okay, I'm willing to blame Dumbledore for knowing about the things and not making any known use of them in the fight against Voldemort. But then we don't know how useful the things really are, whether they can go back in time more than a few hours, what dangers are involved with using them, etc. We also don't know that he didn't actually use them without telling the book's narrator! I mean, he won the fight against Voldemort somehow, right?

As for the kids... they were just kids, immersed in their own little world at school. I wouldn't expect kids of that age to use time-turners for anything other than idiotic pranks, but Harry and Hermione used it for genuine educational purposes and to save Buckbeak and Sirius. So I'll give them a pass.

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Time travel, by its very nature, always creates plot holes.

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Yep. If the Ministry controlled the Time Turners, when Voldermort takes over the Ministry he now has control over time. That's not a positive outcome, all history would be his to do as he pleased. If the Order of the Phoenix or any other good witch/wizard had them as well, then there'd be a time war.

Those are very hard to win, as any person on any side can go back and alter the outcome of any event or battle. The Death Eaters have no qualms about doing heinous things to win, as they stand to gain all of time as their dominion. Meanwhile the good, positive side has morals which slow their effectiveness against ruthless enemies. Too many factors at play for a win for the goodies without the use of Deus ex machina. Basically the Deathly Hallows and the horcruxes are those already, divine interventions against an enemy that will stop at nothing to win power.

Time battles and consequences are also very complicated to write, I'd assume, pointlessly convoluted mess story wise, as the Cursed Child debacle demonstrates rather well.

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