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Two questions for the book-readers (spoilers)

posted 7 years ago by Alex_RM7
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1. First question is related to the Goblet of Fire scene when Voldermort and Harry sort of link with their wands and Harry's parents appear along with Sedric.
What I want to ask you is was Voldermort able to see those basically ghosts? In the movie it looks like he could because he was looking around at them as they were appearing.
So if the answer is yes, he could see them, my questions is was Voldermort after that kind of intimidated by harry's abilities? I mean he basically stopped AGAIN the Avada Kadavra killing curse because of the same wand cores, and then when they connected he spawned ghosts of his parents and Sedric. After harry "let go" the wand link, those ghost flew at Voldemort and blinded him in order to buy some time to harry so he can teleport away. What I am trying to say is was Voldemort after that thinking higher of Harry and his powers/abilities? In the movie nothing of this is indicated.

2. The second questions is how do wizards write spells? We heard that in Goblet of Fire Dumbledor wrote himself the "Age Line" spell so no one under age of 18 can enroll in the tournament. In Half blood Prince we hear from Snape that and I quote "You would try to use my own spells against me?" So how are spells actually written? I understand with potions, you just mix some stuff, but with spells its different. Is that explained in the books?
I was imagining something like that you write it basically by thinking of it in your head and you have to teach your wand, practice and then while invoking the spell i guess you need to think of that? I dont know, im just using the logic that applied to the Patronus charm where Harry basically had to think of a happy strong memory while invoking the spell.

[–] otter 7 years ago

The books never tell exactly what Voldemort thinks of Harry's abilities, or how exactly spells are written down.

The books are told from Harry's POV, he gets occasional glimpses into Voldemort's mind, but that's all we really know of the evil SOB's thought processes. But I'm pretty sure that he doesn't take Harry's abilities seriously (because no expert adult takes the abilities of children or teens seriously), he attributes Harry's successes to luck, wand stuff that few people know about, or Dumbledore's protection.

And no, we're never told exactly how spells are written down. But in the first book we're shown that spells are a combination of the worlds and specific want movements, and the method for indicating want movements is never described. But it must exist, and there must have been some little diagram with the spell written in the margin.

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[–] teatat 7 years ago

my questions is was Voldermort after that kind of intimidated by Harry's abilities?

No. He learns about the twin core's from Olivander and Attribute's what happened to that not to any ability of Harry's.

[–] Distantwords 7 years ago

In the book for Deathly Hallows, in the chapter called 'King's Cross', which is where Harry talks to Dumbledore in Limbo after Voldermort tried to kill him, Dumbledore tells Harry that Voldermort was more afraid than Harry was that night in the graveyard. It's not a huge focus or anything, but it is mentioned.

[–] A_Bob 7 years ago

1) Voldy could see the images coming from his wand. His eyes were stated to be shocked when the images came from his wand. Also, as James was talking to Harry, Voldy was described thusly: "his face, now livid with fear as his victims prowled around him" (GoF p 667).

As for how Voldy felt about Harry after that, I wouldn't say he feared him or respected his power. He had neglected the sacrificial magic when he tried to kill baby Harry, and used Harry's blood to come back so that weakness of his was extinguished. He later kidnapped Ollivander and tried to figure out how to deal with the wand issue. He used Lucius' wand, but that failed as well. Then he went after the Elder Wand.

While Voldy did not change his opinion of Harry, his repeated failures to kill him turned Harry into his obsession and most of what he tried to do involved trying to kill Harry.

2) Spell creation was not something that Rowling ever really got into. As was stated, spells were nothing more than (usually) Latin words or phrases combined with wand flourishes, sometimes with a specific intention to perform a spell (patronus, unforgivable curses, etc). I actually wish she had done some kind of discussion of how a spell was created.

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