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Very Detached from this game

posted 15 years ago by shrapneal
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Well, I'm a very avid gamer myself and growing up around CnC universe I have always enjoyed the stories that Westwood has been able to throw out to its loyal customers ;)

When EA took over Westwood I didnt like it too much but with the Release of Emporer and RA2 as it were, it looked like they were just a distribution channel, now with RA3 In my hands, well I was excited to see how it all goes...

Reading alot of discussions from other members of IMDB is they are mixed, some wanted it more realistic if they could and remove the 'campy' feeling it had embedded in the acting and story but my approach is a little different, Im not looking for more realism, its just this game lacks alot of the fundamentals that the 1 and 2 had.

1 Was very serious, great acting and a plot that would have you kill to get it, like anyone who played it, we all loved it (and the addons, Aftermath and Counter strike)

Ra 2, was well. bit of a campy one, but a serious one too.. Aliies V the Soviets for world domination and our best mate Yuri who had his own game, they were a blast too..

but RA3, well.. there are sevral things I can critisize about this game.. for me there were a few flaws to notice..

1) Killing Einstine..
doing so I thought it clever that the Prisim towers were no more, instead they were Spectre towers, however, the Chonosphere, Mirage Tanks still exsisted.. why? and how?

2) The Music..
To be honest, I wasn't a fan of the music at all.. RA 1 was Electric Industrial that kept you hooked and love to sit it on repeat, this one.. well it sounds like to me that Frank Kreplaki did only 2 tracks with what i would call his properitry method of music composition.. alot of it made my ears bleed with how the notations didn't work together, and above all didnt hype you up..
in RA1 it was Crush and BigFoot, in RA 2 it was Motorized and Grinder, in RA 3 its.. well.. just one "Shock and Awe" and even in this case Im GUESSING that was one of franks one.

3) the acting..
well a top notch cast, Tim Curry is always a badguy (he has a career of it from the three musketeers to Home alone 2) he was allright, but the others were.. sub par to me..
the "fighting" between Lt Eva and Tanya while im sad to say made me chuckle when Tanya told Eva not to Flirt or to Flirt later, but i feel that Tanya (Jenny's) acting was very forced.. interrogating that guy seemed just stupid.. foot on the chair then knife to throat.. like what the hell..
the Russian team was ok i guess, General Krukov was ok, small part he had and didn't really say too much but that was ok, natasha was about the same par..Peter Stomare i think did well with his, maybe a little pushed when he tried to act out an emphasis of point.
The empire, well that worked sort of ok, i find Kelly Hu just wasn't really with it.. just her pronunciation of some things..

4) The Finish of all teams
Reds: well, fun that was. im not going to spoil it.
Blues: hah. the hoff. when i saw the adds i found he had to have something to do with it, and he did.
Yellows: what a cop out, seriously..
I wasn't fond of the endings, they may be trying to apeal to a young generation (like mine) that are fuled by testosterone, but seriously.. its like a step up above pornography to keep you hooked.

5) The Rendering Engine..
Well when we all saw the preview videos is that it looked like eye candy, i have never been a fan of eye candy at all.. im a plot man for gaming.. but its down right annoying being the first of this new "3" generation that wont do a resolution above one screen... its a Joke..
CNC Tib Sun could work on my 3 screens, CnC RA 2 could work on my 3 screens too.. even generals too!!! but why oh why, even after i applied the 1.03 patch (that admittedly dosnt tell you a thing about what it fixes) wont support my 3 screens!

Im open to people who would like to counter act my opinion above but i would like to share mine.

please enlighten me to your take on the game, thoughts/opinions?

PS. im especially annoyed with EA with my premiare edition.. it states that you get more bang for your bug but when looking on the disc over special wall papers and extra material that can be seen on other websites as their "exclusive" RA 3 content.. its a sodding joke i got ripped for it...
I voted with my wallet on the first decate with how they tore apart the series, this one may just end up the same but we will see!

[–] nakatomiplaza1999 15 years ago

1) Agreed. Calling the prism towers spectre towers doesnt change the fact that they are essentially the same thing. I didn't like the whole "let's get rid of Einstein move" since the designers decided to keep all the units Einstein invented in RA2 anyway. But why oh why weren't the soviets allowed their atomic bombs?

2) Alot of re-remixed songs from the previous game(s). Didn't sound as good as the originals. But it isn't all bad IMO, there are some good moments, like the soviet victory music, with the heavy guitar riff and harmonics played repeatedly.

3) Soviets: Good job by Curry and Divoff. Peter Stormare, who plays alot of shady guy/awkvard weirdo roles could have used some more screen time, especially in the soviet campaign.
Allies: Pure awesomeness with Pryce and JK Simmons. It doesn't get any funnier than that. Atkinson did a solid job as Lt Eva, beating J. Morrisons effort as Kirce James in a similar role in CC3. Tanya was a disappointment.

5) The graphics were abit too toy-ish, would have preferred a rough realistic look to the units and buildings. Effects like artillery fire, buildings exploding/crumbling and superweapons look plain bad IMO, something seen in RTS games 7-8 years ago perhaps. Wish they wouldve put more effort into this.
The water looks astonishing though, I'll give them that.

[–] weresmurf 15 years ago

I got this tonight, and I'm enjoying the game so far, but I hate the graphics, I REALLY do.

I know RA has always been the more colourful, more removed, more camp version, with James Bond spies, guard dogs etc. I like some of the new units such as the Bears and the Rising suns Shinobi!

But what I don't like?

The super cartoon look. I really don't. It's not that it's too colorful? It's just, it's so un-real looking, so removed, that I no longer feel its a step left of reality, now it feels like something my son would watch on Saturday mornings.

That all said, I love the gameplay which obviously is the most important part. The ability to build on water AND land is a godsend. However I do not, do not like, AT ALL, the fact that your 'collectors' no longer mine Ore as such as much as go to stockpiles ala Generals. I guess I always found Ore/Tiberium mining a staple thing for CC and RA and Generals, well, the whole Stockpile thing was... interesting. At best.

I guess for RA 4 I'd like to see some return to more serious graphics, camp intact, but a real vicious tone to it as well. Im not talking super gore, just some little blood spatters, write this off as whinging if you will. I'm not complaining like those douches about Diablo 3, I can see purpose behind these graphics, just saying that I feel the cartoon look detracts from it after a while for me?

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[–] chaki-4 15 years ago

Do i smell irony there?

[–] imperialintelligence 15 years ago

we did not use atomic weapons on Hitler. And, Einstein would not even be a factor for the fall of Nazi Germany.

[–] ody_n7 15 years ago

shrapneal i agree with you in the acting it was great except for Jenny McCarthy as tanya and that sceen you are talking about i didn't like it at all it felt very forced as you said but the hole acting as i said is geat as you can see lt.eva and how things go between you and her and her loks to tanya and things like that if you noticed the looks and Facial expressions it is very real .

the music : when i started the game for the first time and heard the music (hell march)it remind me of red alert 2 it was a little differnt but it was good ,i liked it and when i started the Japanese campaigne and watched the cg video and listned to its music it was very fantastic and creative and the hole music was great ( i am actually Listening to some of the sound track right now)and they made an Effort can not be ignored in it and i liked it as every mission hyave its owen music according to the place.

but that is my opinion you may have more Experience than me and know more than me.

the endings i just was playing the game and then it is the end only 9 missions in every campaigne !! TW was better and you can feal the Events in it but RA3 i didn't the game just ended .

there is some good things i liked in the game like the toterial and the video that Explain the abilities of every unit and its Special Ability it was good and the co-commander was good too .

Generally the game is good for me it is 8/10