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The men were cowards!

posted 14 years ago by comweb30
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I just watched this movie and if the events in the movie unfolded the same way in real life I would have to say those men in the classroom were cowards! How could they just leave the women there by themselves with a crazy man who has a gun?

There were about 15 men that he ordered out of the classroom, so I ask why didn't they just all rush the gunman and take him out? He wouldn't have been able to have killed all of them before they got to him and they would have stopped a greater tragedy!

I for one can say without boast or hesitation that I would have taken a bullet before I would have ever have left those women in that classroom with him! I was so angry when those men just walked out of the room...I wanted to scream what the *beep* is wrong with you people!

[–] comweb30 14 years ago

I just read the story about the massacre and apparently there were FIFTY men who he had ordered out of the classroom...that is right FIFTY men who left those poor women to die! Unbelievable that 50 men would leave nine women to be killed like that! I'm even more pissed off now because I'm sure if FIFTY men had rushed the gunman they could have saved so many lives that day!

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[–] uniqueimdbname 14 years ago

They probably didnt expect a massacre because he didnt instantly start killing ppl. At that point it wasnt certain that anyone was going to be shot at all.
But by rushing the gunman ppl would die for sure.

So its a choice, either:
- hope for the best, a hostage situation, with the risk of it turning into a bloodbath.
- expect the worst, and choose a guaranteed bloodbath.

[–] Buff70 11 years ago

Don't forget: they are Quebecers. They are more cowardly than most other men.
I lived among them. I know what I'm talking about. Trust me.

[–] gans_fans 14 years ago

Um, well, ''rush him''... That's easy to say these men were coward when you don't have a gun pointed in your face...

[–] comweb30 14 years ago

I would have never have left those women and it's as simple as that...believe me or not! The men were cowards and I hope they asked those women for forgiveness.

[–] MoviePhAnaTic 10 years ago

So easy to say what you would have or would not have done from the safety of your computer.

[–] borabosna-625-510324 9 years ago

so many deleted comments here. feminist censorship at its best.

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[–] Pseudoephedrine 14 years ago

"There were about 15 men that he ordered out of the classroom, so I ask why didn't they just all rush the gunman and take him out? He wouldn't have been able to have killed all of them before they got to him and they would have stopped a greater tragedy! "

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.

Listen bud. You try and play John Wayne when someone has you at gunpoint, when the adrenaline kicks in and when you are given one clear option: Leave the room or die.

Question: Why didn't the women rush Lepine?

Either way, your question was more of a statement than anything. As if you can rationally have a legitimate discussion on this topic.

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[–] Raped_Nun 14 years ago

"Question: Why didn't the women rush Lepine?"

Loved this question :D

Why is it the mens job to rush the gunman, why couldnt the woman or all of them do it?

Answer would be that in a situation like that your brain freezes and thinks "how am i going to get out of this?!" you focus on yourself instinctively.

I would claim that the men could have done smarter things, but who knows what would happen if the men had tried to rush him. If he had taken them all down (after all.. a semi-automatic rifle can tear through 20 guys pretty fast) he would prob. have tried to kill both men and female.

[–] Pseudoephedrine 14 years ago

"I would claim that the men could have done smarter things, but who knows what would happen if the men had tried to rush him. If he had taken them all down (after all.. a semi-automatic rifle can tear through 20 guys pretty fast) he would prob. have tried to kill both men and female."

"Smarter things"?

Wait a sec, I thought women were inherently smarter than men?

The fact is this: In the film itself Lepine mowed down the women in less than five seconds flat (dumbass who's into 'rushing gunmen' didn't factor this in)

The thing is this: If you are interested in dying, go ahead and rush a crazed gunman. If you are curious about SURVIVING? Fight like hell, your government, legislature, court systems to allow you the RIGHT TO SURVIVE.

Yep: I'm talking: THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

As much as people trash Glenn Beck...if Beck were in that schoolroom when Lepine came in, Beck at least would of pulled out his concealed firearm and shot the SOB.

[–] cflr 14 years ago

By the time Beck got his gun out, he would be dead. Sorry, but if I were one of those men, I would have done the same thing and everyone of you would have too.

[–] JohnnyDoe67 14 years ago

By the time Beck got his gun out, he would be dead. Sorry, but if I were one of those men, I would have done the same thing and everyone of you would have too.

There were 60 in the classroom, so what about 5, 10, 15 with concealed guns, would anyone even try mass shootings like this, if the norm was that people carried?

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[–] donaldcyr 14 years ago

How dare you call any of those people who faced this deranged man a coward. I hope it humbles you to know that a number of the people in the school that day have commited suicide due to the overwhelming regret they feel for not having stepped in.

Your comments are truly insensitive.

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[–] Pilatunes 14 years ago

I agree compeletely with comweb30. The men were incredibly cowardly.

'I for one can say without boast or hesitation that I would have taken a bullet before I would have ever have left those women in that classroom with him!'

I feel the same way. Of course, you are going to hear the comeback 'Easy for you to say.' Well, the doubters will never be in a position to judge whether you would or would not. AND I know myself a lot better than the 'easy for you to say crowd'.

The fact remains that given their proximity to the gunman they could easily have rushed him and overpowered him. One or two might have been shot perhaps not even fatally. Instead they slinked away to save their own hides and left a bunch of women behind to be slaughtered.

The French Canadians fought bravely in WWII...I guess that was the last generation that had any guts. What's left are a bunch of spineless wimps.

I hope every last one of the men there that day is tormented by the thought of what they could have and should have done instead of fleeing like cowards.

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[–] armagedon1980 13 years ago

I have been in firefights overseas and I have been in situation where a similar decision had to be made and let me tell you that I see absolutely nothing odd about those men exiting the class. They are students, in a classroom context.

Its one of those situation where it looks like an easy choice when you are watching it on television.

Its wrong to call them coward. Anyone who has seen the effect of a bullet on flesh or heard the sound of a semi would think twice about being the first one to charge.

[–] Barbourino 14 years ago

It's easy to be an armchair critic and talk like big man from your little keyboard. Anyone can be tough online.

[–] Pilatunes 14 years ago

Thanks for providing the meaningless, banal response I predicted.

Believe it or not, some people do possess something called courage and are believe in self sacrifice for the greater good. Just because you aren't among them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[–] Aziza294 14 years ago

Men have been sacrificing their lives for billions of years. In the age of legalized preferential treatment for girls, there is no reason why men should continue to lay down their lives for girls. When men open doors for girls, men get called all sorts of bad names by the feminists. Men should no longer have to lay down their lives to save girls.

[–] Pilatunes 14 years ago

"Men should no longer have to lay down their lives to save girls."

I still would. Honest.

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[–] Darkfalz1979 13 years ago

If by repressed you mean protected, then I'd agree with you.

Every of those men's lives were as valuable as every one of those women's. There's no danger of the human race dying out anytime soon, so their wombs were of no extra value.

Those men were as terrified and confused as any of the women, and they only wanted to stay alive. Granted, if there were some with some kind of police/army training present, they would have at least tried to rush Lepine while he was reloading, but it's easy to what if after the fact.

Where's the memorial to all men killed by men? Or all men killed by women? Or all babies smothered or drowned by mothers?

[–] TaRaNRoD (1579) 6 years ago

Wow, wow, wow... Are you saying that the men in the room had the OBLIGATION to risk their lives??? What kind of fucking logic is this??

Wow seriously... This is probably the dumbest mindset I've ever seen. I won't start to argue on whatever i would have done (because no matter how courageous I might be, I've never had a gun pointed on my face so no i don't know).

But what you are basically saying is that men's lives worth less than women's lives... This mindset doesn't lead to the right direction.