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Break-'Dancing' is NOT Dancing


...Before anyone rips into me, I am more than aware of the athleticism, coordination, strength, etc. needed to break dance. But to me, it falls more under the category of acrobatics, gymnastics, and maybe even tumbling, but NOT dance. I know of plenty of good break dancers who have very little rhythm. Dancing requires you to be able to move with rhythm IN TIME with music, I don't think those things are even important in break dancing.

Yes, breaking is very impressive, but to me (and many others, I'm sure), watching people spin on their heads gets old after the first...i don't know...15 minutes. More than half of them movie revolved around shots of break dancers. I want to see REAL DANCE.

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"B-boying", "break-dancing". Tomatoe, to-mah-toe. Whatever you choose to call it, I still don't consider it dance for the reasons I mentioned in my original post. If anything, your post confirmed what I said. It's clearly not easy, extremely physical, and requires a lot of practice/training, but it is NOT dancing.

P.S. If you disagree, you should have argued against the points that I originally posted, which you didn't.

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Actually, the second poster did say they have to 'be in sync with the rhythm'. So yeah, if that's your definition of 'dancing'--'b-boying'or whatever IS dancing.

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Break dancing is incorporated into a bigger routine, you will never see a good dance crew just make a circle and show off their tricks one after another, there is always without a doubt a larger routine at play.

Which is always presented in time with the music and will usually have theatrical sections incorporated into the routine which are directly linked to the music being played.

To say break dancing is not dancing is incredibly small minded, I am left with one thing to assume, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Interpreting music into movements of your body = dancing. It really is as simple as that.

Even if all they did were big tricks, but the tricks they do are meant to represent how they 'feel' the music, then it is dance.

I don't really like modern art or surrealism, but I won't claim it isn't art.

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I agree with ColorStruck...you should get your fact straight...
Theres 2 type of breakdancers (style heads and power heads).You probably seen more "power heads" which are like those headspins and windmills. "Style head" requires you to move with the rhythm of the music which is VERY IMPORTANT.
A really good breakdancer have both style and power which do takes alot of time and dedication.


You should get into bboying yourself cuz i was in da same shoe as you thinking breakdance is all flashy moves and stuff. But yea, i believe breakdance is one of the hardest dance you can learn. (Ballet is the next hardest...man they dancing on their freaking TOESSSS, mannnn thats some hardcore stuff.)

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Your credibility went out the window as soon as you called it "break-dancing."

It is either breaking or b-boying, the media is the one that coined the term "break-dancing" and it is widely disliked by the b-boy community. Also, you definitely have no idea what b-boying is all about if you think that power moves is all it is, and obviously you know nothing about the culture. Do some research before opening your mouth fool.

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Sure there are bboys that are only powerheads but at the same time I've seen contemporary dancers who can pirouette for days and have crazy extensions but don't even dance to their track and would fail in a salsa or hip hop class because they have no rhythm.

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EXCUSE ME? You don't consider Breaking as dancing? Do you even dance? I've been a dancer since I was a child and I've had several experiences in different dance genres already, from Ballet to Street. In case you don't know, Street dance has a lot of sub-genres INCLUDING B-boying/Breaking. So please next time, get your facts straight and think before you speak.

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For me, it's whatever your body feels like doing whenever a song plays. YES you may look like a fool to others, especially others who think they know more than you or studied in a school for dance. Heck, I can't dance for *beep* but when I move my body during a song, people call it dancing as far as I'm concerned.

Who are we to say breaking or b-boying is not dancing? They are breaking boundaries and expanding horizons that other people haven't done. 20-30 years down the line, someone from our generation will use this same type of dance to diss on future dance genres. So there. To each his own,right? Peace out,everybody. :)

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ok, this video has no rhythm whatsoever, they are not dancing, i think they have ants in their pants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDjFXb4TOyo&feature=related

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For me, nailing the music (or the 'beat' as it is called) with a combo, power move, freeze, footwork, or sleek toprock, is a lot hotter and sicker than nailing music with commercial choreography.

You know, that's the difference between breakers and regular commercial dancers that you see on TV. The latter choreograph their routines all the time, but breakers have an edge, they spontaneously react to music they might've heard before or enjoy, and kill it with their moves and style. In my opinion, that is as sick as you can get. The reason I love breaking is because of it's musicality. And here you are telling us 'break dancers have no rhythm'. You were clearly watching the wrong video, son. I really wouldn't dare to call myself a bboy/bgirl if I didn't respect and love the music I'm dancing to. PS. breaking has specific music just for itself, i.e break-beats. How many other styles have music created mainly for the dance form's purpose? Really, and you were talking about it not being a dance form. Please do check your facts before jumping bandwagons.

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I agree with everyone on here. Very ignorant post. Go check out a real b-boy battle and tell me it doesn't require rhythm. However, I can see how many people get the wrong perception on "break dancing" from what they see in movies. Of course they're going to put more emphasis on power moves, as that is more entertaining to watch for the general public.

Also, you don't need any strength to be a b-boy. There are many b-girls out there as well.

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OneStepAttaTime, I picture you as an old decrepit guy shaking his fist at the sky. "Break-'Dancing'? This isn't dancing!"

Same guy who went: "Rock-n-roll? This isn't music!" "Rap! This isn't singing!" "Techno? Computers can't make music!" "Microwave? This isn't an oven, ovens have fire!" etc... Thanks for the distraction.

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yeah yeah....ok..I wasn't going to post a reply to this thread but I can't believe I haven't seen ONE reply that agrees in any way to the original thread. I TOTALLY get what the OP wrote.

First of all, Break Dancing was around loooong before B-Boying. B-boying is a derivative of Break Dancing. There are just a lot of new styles out now but they ALL derived from break dancing. But since the OP said NOTHING about b-boying, then what the hell are all of the posters here jumping all over the OP about the difference between the two? Idiots! The OP was about BREAK DANCING so if bboying is not BREAK DANCING, then don't reply to the damn post. Its not about BBOYING.

Now, the conventional meaning of dancing is moving in time with the rythm. Hardly ANY of the moves in break dancing, bboying, or whatever you want to call it, has to do with moving with the rythm of the song. But it all just looks better with a nice phat jam blaring in the background. I dont know how it could EVER be considered dancing unless you also consider Balet dancing which to me is also NOT. If you believe just frolicking in the meadow, twirling around and waving your arms is dancing(which it actually is by definition alone), then yes break dancing, bboying, and twirling around in a cornfield IS dancing. But the OP is talking about actual DANCING in the sense of getting on the dancefloor and moving and shaking according to the rythm, 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 1 and 2 and 3 and soforth. Most of the time, when people are break dancing, they may start out clapping and whatnot to the beat, but once they go for it, the rythm usually goes out of the picture. Yes, many, many, many break dancers have excellent rythm, but most of their moves have nothing to do with the rythm. Take the robot for instance, usually the "dancer" doing the robot is just amazing us with the strict dicipline they are displaying and tight movements but those movements are not on the one unless by chance.

Anyway, I get you OP. These moves are often amazing, but I also would not consider it DANCING. It just happens to fall under Break Dancing and the Dancing part of the name just stuck and so we have to endure everyone calling it dancing but it clearly is NOT.

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Dwight29, wow, the reason why nobody agrees with the op except for you because like the OP, you have NO ideal what you are talking about.

1) Breakdancing was NOT around LONG before BBOYING. Break "Dancing" is a coin term given by the media when "Bboying or Breaking" was increasing in popularity in New York. But instead of calling it by it's original terms, they gave it a new phrase Breakdancing. Since most bboy's and the bboy culture wanted bboying to stay underground, they in terms despise the name Breakdancing, as by giving it that term, it provides the ignorance you and the op share towards the art form.

2) I'm sorry but, 1, 2,3,4 argument is so ridiculously ignorant that I actually feel sorry for you. People should NEVER try to get into an argument on a subject they have no ideal about, which you and the op clearly shown you don't. The only you thing you describe in your post is that you have a hard on for memorization and choreo, not dancing. As many dancers who freestyle perform absolutely nothing with counts, but their body still flows smoothly with the rhythm because their body is moving with the rhythm. A lot of freestylers of many style, be it popping, locking, bboying modern hip hop freestylying (basically hip hop choreo but without the counts) don't use some robotic number system to judge their dance movements. They let their body move with the music, which in itself is dancing. You see people at a bar dancing to rock music that are clearly off rhythm, no sense of rhythm at all and far from some 1,2,3,4 count, but nobody would discount that they are dancing.

3) Good BBoys dance on rhythm. It's that simple.

So yeah, if you want to get into an argument. At least get into on a topic you have a clue about, because it's clearly evident neither you nor the op have a slightest ideal about bboyin and are clearly using your own ignorant judgement and perspective to criticize an art form. Thus, both of you guys deserve to be ridicule.

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"Yes, many, many, many break dancers have excellent rythm, but most of their moves have nothing to do with the rythm. Take the robot for instance, usually the "dancer" doing the robot is just amazing us with the strict dicipline they are displaying and tight movements but those movements are not on the one unless by chance."

The robot isn't a bboy move. Nice job showing us that you have no idea what you're talking about :P

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