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Damn that was really dark at the end


When Homelander burnt Madelyn's eyes out killing her while her baby was there. I didn't like Madelyn but she did care about her baby and Homelander killed her making the baby an orphan was really messed up.

But it was a great moment and totally caught me off guard, i didn't think they'd kill off Shue like that.

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Might be even darker. Did the baby die from the explosion?

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Yeah i dunno, but if so that kinda makes Billy a pretty bad person.

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All that C4 no way that baby survived.

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Obviously the baby died as well.

and billy obviously was a bad individual.

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How was it obvious? Billy survived the explosion, the baby could have as well.

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Billy was protected by the Homelander.

I doubt that the baby was a supe as well so ...

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And even as maybe the baby survived, billy is bad because he pulled the trigger not knowing if the baby will survive or not.

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I feel like Madelyn's baby is a super as well. It seems to me that they feel their error is that Homelander was not raised with a mother and that is why he is a psycho. So that is the adjustment they are making with Madelyn's baby, as well as the other kid at the end.

Homelander's ability to reproduce is a new way to make supers. I assumed he was also the father of Madelyn's baby.

I may be off on that theory though.

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I'm probably reading WAY too much into it, but I actually thought her baby was going to be tied to a manufactured weakness of Homelander. I'm not sure that you can control the type of hero you make with the serum, but it would be an interesting twist if the company knew it was only a matter of time before they had to deal with Homelander so they were actively trying to create something that could take him out.

I was thinking mind control, or power leaching. Again probably was reading way too much into it, and if the baby died, I guess my theory for the big twist probably dies with it.

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" I'm not sure that you can control the type of hero you make with the serum, but it would be an interesting twist if the company knew it was only a matter of time before they had to deal with Homelander so they were actively trying to create something that could take him out."

That storyline pops up in the comics.

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I just think that too much time was devoted to Madelyn's baby and her playing mother to it (with the father always a mystery) for that baby to have no significance. And I think you hit the nail on the head that since Homelander was damaged by being raised in a lab (duh!), that with this little supe baby, they were going to give it lots of maternal care AND keep it under direct supervision.

The fact that Madelyn kept urging Homelander (ok, he's Homie for me from now on; name too long) to take the baby out of harm's way while she was in danger of being blown up says the baby wasn't invulnerable. And while I think Homelander is callous enough to let a baby die that was no use to him, I think he probably saved it along with Billy, and we'll find out why in season 2.

Just my thoughts as I try to read the tea leaves.

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Possibly the baby (Teddy) will remain in the series, but I tend to doubt it. Homelander hated that Madelyn put the baby first, sometimes.

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It was very dark and disturbing. It shows how cold-blooded Homie is. And I really hated Madelyn as a villain--so smug, manipulative, and devoid of all principle--so it was a satisfying shock to see her get killed. I will miss her, though, since she was an entertaining villain.

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Yeah, that caught me off guard. But she lied about his child, so I guess "phhzzztttt" it is.

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