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I could have done without the whole 'Men Suck' Angle.


I remember reading the 80's Wonder Woman reboot by George Perez. In that when Steve Trevor crash lands. They didn't immediately go on to treat him like Sh!t or a enemy. In fact they even invited him to a grand tour of the Island. Frannkly George Perez did it SO much better. Without Wonder Women or the Themysciran coming off as bitches.

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This didn't have a "men suck" angle. A huge point of the movie was that there needs to be open and equal communication between men and women in society. Initially Steve objectified and fetishized the Amazons and underestimated them because they were female, and the Amazons demonized and prejudged Steve because he was a man. If the film didn't start with that misunderstanding, Diana's character arc of coming to an understanding would not have worked, and the message would be lost.

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This is exactly right. It's not Men Suck....Its an intruder on the island Who happens to be a Man, but he is also of course behaving just like their perceptions of Man are....he is going hubba-hubba on the Island of paradisical females, so they show him what Amazons are all about. I thought it was perfect! I loved Diana in this film, & her relationship to Steve & how it progressed, from her being the only one that didnt want to outright kill him at first, to not being weak in the knees when he flirts with her, etc.

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The movie didn't have a "Men Suck" theme, but showed that both sexes need to understand and communicate with each other.

One of my favorite scenes is in the Jet, when Diana has the Lasso wrapped around Steve's foot and he's babbling away. Classic!

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I think that the "Men Suck" angle was necessary, since the film was critiquing that kind of thinking. That opinion is still very mainstream - that feminism=women rule, men drool when it's about equality between the sexes

Both Diana and Hippolyta are called out for their narrow minded opinions of men, and Persephone is shown to be clearly the more sympathetic party in her death scene. Also note that, despite Ares being the villain, not once is it suggested or hinted that he was manipulating Persephone at all.

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Im going to agree with Bond. This is a Animated Movie. Not A Gender Studies class. There no reason to bring in some "Hit me over the head" Feminist Bullsh!t into this Animated movie. So you can go on and on about how this about Genders worked together. When it was just a badly written Piece of Sh!t.

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If you complained about the gender element of the film then you completely failed at realizing the movie's purpose. This was clearly not a 'Men Suck' angle movie but I do get why some men would be confused by this because it can come off that way if you fail to understand why the Amazons struggled with men when they first entered the real world.

You've got to understand those women including Princess Diana grew up in women-only communities so they didn't get much opportunity to communicate with men intimately like that so this was all new territory for Diana when she finally got into the real world. Unfortunately Steve Trevor came off looking like a pervert who just wanted to sex up the Amazon women and was treated as the enemy so she instantly learned to hate him but luckily Steve finally came clear in the hospital and showed Diana that men are decent people and instilled the seeds of trust in men for Diana.

It's actually really realistic to include this element to the story and this was always how the story was anyways so to take this element out is completely changing the story just because you're a damn sexist. I'm sorry but anybody who has a problem with this element of the story is clearly a sexist.

I'm glad this is in there because it shows how both genders should properly communicate and understand each other.

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