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Please... this movie must be BAN

posted 14 years ago by counter_force
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Hi people Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to all. I hassle myself to sign up this account... so I can spread this message... This movie is so bad.. it makes me want to cry just thinking about it. The whole movie is just so bad, I cannot put into context... Just to be fair I did not see the first movie and I did not read the comics. I am not a fan but fair is fair this is just a movie so it must be treated as such. Well to sum up all the words I have to say, This movie sucks

(Ok I really need to put this I do not know if this is call a spoiler but it is really really dumb and funny please look out at the starting of the movie)

(I think and I maybe wrong, cloud kicked godless armor it did not do anything and it hurt him in his stomach) 0.0? wait... what?

I need to search the dictionary just to find a word or call a English professor to give me a word on how bad this movie is.. There is no word to describe how bad this movie is.

I think I need start a petition just to ban this movie...

It is so bad... just so bad... my god.... I just want 2hrs of my life back from that movie.... please

It sad for me not to be born in a time that I can watch Siskel and Ebert movie critic show. But I do know they were one of the most respected movie critics of all time I wonder if Siskel and Ebert watched this movie I think they will give it the lowest rating ever down right to the pits of hell, like the movie Good Burger.

The basics of this movie is not there. Number 1 dialog. I think the pages for the script is only 20 pages. Lots of things dose not make sense. Its just action after action after action and half the time I do not know what they are talking about and 30 minutes into the movie I was bored and just gave up trying to understand the movie.

I do not understand how people can rate this movie average or good maybe its just the cool CG effects or because the directors are famous or the actors/actress are famous but that dose not give you an excuse to make a bad movie. just pump full of worthless action thinking how cool it will be to the common audience and half the time
me a common audience just do not understand what they are doing! WHATS GOING ON? OK... 1/3 of the time I do understand what is going on but most of it dose not make sense or should not be there!

I am not a professional film critic and I am not trying to be a smart ass but I still know how to differentiate a good and bad movie. To sum it all up, this movie 2 thumbs down.

OK there is good things and the good things about this movie is some of the effects. It was cool and the music was not bad but god... music in everything... the fighting the talking god so much music...

I am just pointing out my feelings and views on this movie I don't mean to offend anyone so just read and if you have comments just say it I am glad to look at other people comments from time to time But if you are just "trolling" (writing B.S) I won't be bothered like I said I am interested in people just commenting about this movie or my comments.

oh and if you guys like to watch movie reviews. There's a independent movie critic quite funny find this guy Nostalgia Critic and Nostalgia Chick both of them are really funny. Oh and for old NES games and Atari game reviews find this guy Angry video Game Nerd he's really funny too. If you like stupid youtube videos find Equals Three on youtube he's good too. I support all of them! haha trash TV Oh and Siskel and Ebert too find their old movie review shows.

Do not read the section below if you want to watch the movie. It's spoiler section I just have to comment on the movie. I need to get it off my system. I do not know why, I just have to.

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Spoiler section

There is so much signs of 300.. so much slow motion I rather watch the whole movie in slow motion oh.. most of the movie is in slow motion. Hey wait is that guy is riding a giant dragon head just like....????

OOO RIGHT.. the guy in the pool of evil... wait... is he turning in to venom from spider man?

The part where a drop of sweat turn into a giant ball of sweat... oooook.. that is disgusting and funny at the same time. Really... me and my friend laughed our ass off...

The part where they were fighting in their spirit mode or whatever... and the guy just starting spewing water out? its raining then snowing? MY GOD WHO WRITE THIS STUFF

The 2 girls whatever their name is they are totally useless in this movie I rather they aren't in the movie it makes it better. I just love the scene where its nearing the end of the movie, she jumped out just to say wind or cloud.. then run across the screen to say wind or cloud again I forgot which name she said first. But my god is that so really really goooooood... and I mean good as in bad as in IT DOSE NOT MAKE SENSE! ITS NOT NEEDED! THAT SCENE REALLY PISS ME OFF.

ok I have hundreds of things I can say about this movie but I think I must end it here. Overall I REALLY REALLY HATE THIS MOVIE.. I had to choose between mulan and this movie and I made a really bad choice. Its just showing a lot of cool effects that's all nothing more..

And what the hell is a dragon back bone what is that!! What is that got to do with keeping china together? a BONE? why can't they just put a book and it write HOLLY BOOK OF MARTIAL ARTS Or the bible or something! A BONE? It blows my mind! oh ya... The script for the movie I think its just 10 pages long I will count how many lines each actor said when I buy the DVD.. especially the actress I think total they spoke less then 3 page of lines. Bloody hell I just paid $10 to see effects... my god... I could have watched 2012 again at least they tell me what is going on!

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To IMDb and the community if this comment is against the rules tell me and I will change it and I apologize in advance if any rules are broken.

*freaking BONE*

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

Too late-- they are already planning to make Number 3, because they easily made their (very small) budget back by simply selling overseas distribution rights.... LOL

But seriously, would you ban strawberry or vanilla just because you hate the taste they leave in your mouth?

You may not be trolling, but you are certainly ranting... I mean, you don't need the likes of Siskel and Ebert to give you "mainstream" movie reviews, cos almost ALL the reviews of this movie agree that it's mostly style and no substance.

Why do people who don't care keep telling other people not to care?

[–] counter_force 14 years ago

lol yea sorry to anyone if I am ranting. It is just in the past they made bad movies and games and they learn. But in this time and now they still can make bad movies? this movie made me stay up till 6am to write diffident reviews really is that bad. If it comes out part 3 I may give it a chance and watch it but my hopes wont be high.

If just pure style is they are aiming for at least have the courtesy to make me understand what is going on. All they did was just make a quick movie slap a good title on it and package it for us like greedy pigs and laughing hohoho all the way. 2 bad movies was enough ARE MORE COMING?!

like I said If I wanted to watch cool CG effects I rather watch 2012 or District 9. All this wasted money could feed lots of people.

oh and banning it may be impossible but it will be my quest to pass on the message to people telling them this movie is not worth watching.

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

If just pure style is they are aiming for at least have the courtesy to make me understand what is going on. All they did was just make a quick movie slap a good title on it and package it for us like greedy pigs and laughing hohoho all the way. 2 movies was enough ARE MORE COMING?!

like I said all this money could feed lots of people.

LOL, you went to watch this movie without even realizing it's already the second one in a franchise? Talk about an innocent (but willing) "victim"... I guess it's a good thing I didn't even bother to try explaining the character/story elements to you!

But like I said, you're missing the point that there are people who are happy to pay for and watch this stuff. People who didn't need the film to "make" them understand what's going on, and could even enjoy it.

Strawberry and vanilla, my friend-- now that you know that some kinds of movies (like this one) are not made for you, stop thinking/acting as if your kind of movies is also everyone else's cup of tea...

FYI, this is actually something I learnt from the Silent Hill movie adaptation-- thought the movie was really bad, and was surprised to learn why/how the movie was made that way.... I wouldn't watch the movie again, but at least I "got it"-- that's what the IMDB Boards are really USEFUL for (no, not ranting/trolling).

Why do people who don't care keep telling other people not to care?

[–] counter_force 14 years ago

Yea I did not know not everyone knows everything and I am not a professional movie critic so I do not keep track and I don't know they were so cheapo too.

Oh wow I and foresee the movie and know that it sucked eggs. If I knew I won't go! And the title Fung wan 2 well you get that feeling with that kind of title this movie you couldn't go wrong by picking that! But disappointment when it was over. And if people enjoyed it that's their problem. I said I am just stating my points and my views on this movie.

and yea people have different taste for movies but at least strawberry and vanilla tasted nice :P and this movie has no nice all over it not one thing to compliment to.

And I am a very big fan of silent hill. Not the show of course that movie didn't not match the game but they tried and it was ok. And I am new to IMDB boards if there is a law against rating here I would gladly stop but I am here to just stress that movie really sucked eggs.

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

Oh wow I and foresee the movie and know that it sucked eggs. If I knew I won't go! And the title Fung wan 2 well you get that feeling with that kind of title this movie you couldn't go wrong by picking that! But disappointment when it was over. And if people enjoyed it that's their problem. I said I am just stating my points and my views on this movie.

Err, the title of the movie is the also the title of the comic-- yeah, yeah, I get that you were a completely innocent victim (who watches movies based on titles)....

But if your view involves "banning" the movie for other people-- then you are certainly not just stating your points and letting other people enjoy it if they want to....

and yea people have different taste for movies but at least strawberry and vanilla tasted nice :P and this movie has no nice all over it not one thing to compliment to.

Not even the style? LOL, remember that hyperbole always hurt credibility.

Not that I want or even need to "defend" this film-- it is a blatant "magic-(kung)fu" CGI-fest and meant to be seen as such. Seriously, I liked it even better than the first movie which tried to show some "serious" story/acting and only made me laugh (comic adaptations have a hard time NOT being corny)...

And I am a very big fan of silent hill. Not the show of course that movie didn't not match the game but they tried and it was ok. And I am new to IMDB boards if there is a law against rating here I would gladly stop but I am here to just stress that movie really sucked eggs.

Whew, lucky I didn't start pointing out how that s*** Silent Hill movie was NOT okay at all to me.

There's no law against ranting-- but the user comments section is the place to do it, if you REFUSE to be contradicted. That's why people who start a thread just to rant are usually regarded as trolls-- if you have an "no-questions-about-it" opinion and DON'T want it to be challenged, submit it as a user comment.

The actual discussion board works better for erm, discussions.

Why do people who don't care keep telling other people not to care?

[–] counter_force 14 years ago

Err, the title of the movie is the also the title of the comic-- yeah, yeah, I get that you were a completely innocent victim (who watches movies based on titles)....

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look at that point of time i was with a couple of friends rush things ect ect and we had no time but we choose between mulan and fung wan 2 well.. nvm. If you feel that I am being hostile or whatever really that is not my objective.

My objective is just letting people know that movie really sucked that's all. Its just that there is no other movie that made me so pissed off before even for bad movies. Other peoples comments to criticize me whatever sure fine.

LOL look whatever the main point is this movie really sucked eggs.

And sure if the admin feels this post is not suited to be here move it to user comments.

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

My objective is just letting people know that movie really sucked that's all. Its just that there is no other movie that made me so pissed off before even for bad movies. Other peoples comments to criticize me whatever sure fine.

No problem, you are as reasonable as a ranter can ever be-- and I totally understand your point of view. In fact, I can throw everything you said about this movie back at the Silent Hill movie...

...Or even Michael Jackson's "This is it" movie? I mean, what kind of movie/documentary starts and ends in the middle of nowhere and shows no real continuity, forward momentum or even any "point" to speak of? But were all the clips of MJ enjoyable for Jackson fans? Sure they were.

And that's the only thing that made me accept living in the same world as people who rated the Silent Hill movie 5 or more stars out of 10. The visual designs "realized" in the Silent Hill movie ARE amazing-- so I would probably have given the movie a passing mark, IF that was what I wanted in the movie (but I was expecting a horror movie, not a collection of the "best" visual/ideas from the game)....

Why do people who don't care keep telling other people not to care?

[–] counter_force 14 years ago

I hated MJ film. But loved his songs and I am a big fan too. I did not watch this is it movie I knew it was not a movie. He was dead (rest his soul). I remember the 1st film he did moon walker was the same too just him and him and him all the way. But he did a small story in moon walker the only good thing about the show was --- smooth criminal song and dance.

I was neutral about the silent hill movie. I agree with you that the visuals are really good and I was expecting horror too.. But they still should make the acting lead male.. but female running around screaming gives more fear to the show.. I kinda like the police woman. Too bad she died so badly/ I also must give the movie credit for trying to achieve most of the game styles peeling walls the creatures responding to light. The puzzle solving.. well technically not solving but still something.

Even the game made me afraid LOL. Talking about silent hill just gives me bad memories about fatal frame :O that is some fear game.

I am a very big fan of the game and resident evil too. BUT for RE film... was pretty bad for me. The 1st movie made me knew there will be bad sequels. And man it was bad.... I just know this was some holly jolly wood to cash in on the game franchise. But the animated one. Its ok~ whats your option on the RE films

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

Left this board (and IMDB) for a while, but to answer you...

But he did a small story in moon walker the only good thing about the show was --- smooth criminal song and dance.

I could (& still do) watch the smooth criminal segment over and over again-- but I agree that doesn't make Moonwalker a movie (let alone a good one).

I was neutral about the silent hill movie. I agree with you that the visuals are really good and I was expecting horror too.. But they still should make the acting lead male.. but female running around screaming gives more fear to the show.. I kinda like the police woman. Too bad she died so badly/ I also must give the movie credit for trying to achieve most of the game styles peeling walls the creatures responding to light. The puzzle solving.. well technically not solving but still something.

I consider Silent Hill a bad movie, because its only appeal to me is "spot-the-infuence" ("wow, they re-created that from the games so well!")-- I can't even enjoy it as a B-movie, because it tries to be so damn serious... and fails.

Which is sad considering that all the elements are fine (Sean Bean, Rada Mitchell, etc.), except that they DON'T mesh-- Sean Bean is doing melodrama, Rada Mitchell is doing mystery, the policewoman and the townsfolk are doing sketch comedy, the cinematography is doing horror... and the script is doing theo-philosophy?

I mean, at least Storm Warriors had ONE huge failing-- story-telling. The Silent Hill was being pulled in so many directions that even beautifully horrific cinematography/effects lost its impact/purpose.

I am a very big fan of the game and resident evil too. BUT for RE film... was pretty bad for me. The 1st movie made me knew there will be bad sequels. And man it was bad.... I just know this was some holly jolly wood to cash in on the game franchise. But the animated one. Its ok~ whats your option on the RE films

The first RE movie watchable and fun, even if it haplessly ripped-off, I mean deviated, from the games-- plus Milla Jovovich is great eye-candy.

But it's all the way downhill from there, because the sequels are really spin-offs from the first RE movie and NOT the games. And since the first RE movie had already messed up-- I mean redacted-- the story/setting of the games, the RE movie sequels had to make up more and more stuff (unrelated to the games) and just made less and less sense (than even the games).

"I don't go to movies to escape reality: I go to experience life in a raw, intense way"-- S. Copley

[–] justicewillprevail 14 years ago

@ dont_b_so_BBC: There are many trolls on these boards, and the admins aren't doing enough troll hunting. Agreed on all your points, however, suggest you keep it simple for our friend here. If he doesn’t get it, he just doesn’t want to.

@ counter: Next time you write a review or start a discussion, could you please summarise? I too, watch the show, and I too hate it. However, my review would be short, as the movie doesn't deserve anything longer. An example:
Dialogue: Unintentional comedic genius, "What's that word?"
Plot: More holes than Swiss cheese, and less substance
Effects: Better than Avatar, since they make the main leads look younger than they did 10 years back.
In summary complete rubbish, don't watch unless the DVD was forced upon you and you had absolutely nothing else to do. I suggest going for a walk instead.

Lastly, asking users of IMDB to ban a film, if you REALLY think about it, is probably not going to work. They could boycott it, but then again, they could be really bored and just choose to watch it anyway... Rate it and wait for common sense to moderate.

[–] alias_alyssa_lee 14 years ago

Asking users of IMDB to ban a film? Counter_Force should try using Facebook, the success rate is more higher as proven by Rage knocking off manufactured pop off record charts!

As for the film...is it really that bad? As a fan of the franchise, I really want to see the film! Is it worth buying on VCD/DVD when it comes out? I don't think you're suppose to read into the film that much. Nowadays, films are much more sophisticated and intelligent than they used to be. Wuxia is meant to be taken lightheartedly, afterall, it's all about guys and their swords who are dressed like girls!

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

As for the film...is it really that bad? As a fan of the franchise, I really want to see the film! Is it worth buying on VCD/DVD when it comes out? I don't think you're suppose to read into the film that much. Nowadays, films are much more sophisticated and intelligent than they used to be. Wuxia is meant to be taken lightheartedly, afterall, it's all about guys and their swords who are dressed like girls!

Well, there's "Dragonball-Evolution bad"; and there is "Storm-Warriors bad".

"Dragonball-Evolution bad" is when people try to make a Mainstream American Children's Adventure movie out of a Kung-Fu Fantasy (or sci-fi) Manga-- aka "bad" as in being mediocre, generic, pointless, etc.

"Storm-Warriors bad" is when people don't even try to make a properly-paced movie, but simply filmed and edited together some Live-Action CGI Fights from a Kung-Fu Fantasy Manga-- aka "bad" as in getting a few things right, but everything else wrong.

Of course, then there's MST3K or Uwe-Boll bad, where everything the movie/director tries to do has a different result/effect-- and Storm Warriors does run into this kind of bad sometimes... but I must grudgingly credit the directors of Storm Warriors for admitting that they were only interested in the CG-- I guess I wasn't disappointed because I never had much faith/liking in the directors to begin.

I mean, Storm Warriors (trashy pulp cinema) I can understand-- but how Uwe Boll can defend each frame of his films as a masterpiece, I don't.

As a fellow fan of the genre/franchise, my advice is to rent it (preferably on blu-ray)-- cos at least the fights were fun ("Mastery of Ten Thousand Swords"!), even if the plot/acting/etc. was non-existent... I mean, it's certainly not something I would be watching (through) again and again.

P.S. That's why Dragonball Evolution was a failure to me: cos the plot/acting/etc. was nonsensical AND the fights weren't fun.

"I don't go to movies to escape reality: I go to experience life in a raw, intense way"-- S. Copley

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

Dialogue: Unintentional comedic genius, "What's that word?"

I actually thought it might be intentional-- at least at the script-level.

But the execution/direction, like the music score, was "pretty one-note" (dah-dah-dah, dum!)-- with a cast of veteran and award-winning male actors in the principal roles, all the directors seemed to have done is to tell them WHERE to look. What a waste....

Plot: More holes than Swiss cheese, and less substance

Definitely a case of biting off more than they can chew. I'm guessing that the budget was eaten up by the CGI/visual effects and they couldn't even afford to shoot more detailed dialogue/story scenes involving the Emperor or fight scenes involving the Warlord.

But did that make them cut down on the story/character developments? No, they decided to stretch the generic/thread-bare premise (and their CG production costs) even further to resolve the demonic possession sub-plot, so that they can give us another half-hour of fight/CG sequences.... *shakes head*

Effects: Better than Avatar, since they make the main leads look younger than they did 10 years back.

Not to mention that Avatar had those floating mountains... which actually made Storm Warriors' CGI backdrops look more realistic/plausible-- I mean, I didn't realize that the only full set they built was the Dragon Tomb.

"I don't go to movies to escape reality: I go to experience life in a raw, intense way"-- S. Copley

[–] manzekl 14 years ago

Son...I'm disappoint

[–] BronzeKeilani26 14 years ago

Really! I was wondering when this fool was going to stfu! My gawd I had to scroll pass all that for about 5 min jus to get to your post once I realize it was just a RANT & not a review, christ

[–] Firevortex 14 years ago

what a epic fail of a movie. i actually fell asleep in my seat. they're claiming the special effects rivals that of a Hollywood production. yeah sure must be B grade Hollywood production. over use of particle effects with smoke and dust flying every where. when there is some actual 3d modeling/rendering the rocks and mountains look like a pile of pixelated poo. oh the plot...what plot? the script seems like it came off a childrens bed time story book and the directing from dragonballz, 3mins for a hugging scene and 2mins for a close up scene.

this movie is one of the worse if not the worse movie i've seen in 3 yrs. think it beats starship troopers 3 on particle effects.

how it got 4.9 starts! is beyond me. should be closer to 2-3 stars.

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

what a epic fail of a movie. i actually fell asleep in my seat. they're claiming the special effects rivals that of a Hollywood production. yeah sure must be B grade Hollywood production. over use of particle effects with smoke and dust flying every where. when there is some actual 3d modeling/rendering the rocks and mountains look like a pile of pixelated poo. oh the plot...what plot? the script seems like it came off a childrens bed time story book and the directing from dragonballz, 3mins for a hugging scene and 2mins for a close up scene.

Pixelated? Err, you want it make even more OBVIOUS that you merely watched a downloaded DVD-rip of the movie?

No, there's no pixelation issue with the movie and, as I pointed out in my IMDB review, no color (over-)saturation issue either-- if you saw it in the movies.

In fact, you have just highlighted my biggest concern about getting a DVD of the movie-- the full-on "Demonically Dancing Wind" (summoned by the possessed Wind character at the end) was pretty mind-boggling to watch on the big screen, and I doubt a DVD would do it any justice.

"I don't go to movies to escape reality: I go to experience life in a raw, intense way"-- S. Copley

[–] Firevortex 14 years ago

was i trying hard to HIDE the fact i got the DVD rip? NO. no cinema around here is showing it. so sorry i aint gonna buy a airplane ticket just to see this POS of a movie.

lol i like how u use the word "mind-boggling" on the effects. flying smoke trails obviously appeals to ur taste? the particle effects arnt worth $$ to watch it on the big screens it wont be anything spectacular that we haven't seen. this aint Avatar or 2012.

there is pretty much 0 character or plot development. yet u put everything down to how WU XIA stories are suppose to be like which is total BS. did u even read the bloody comic? This is a movie not a action scene storyboard. i dont remember WU XIA comics been so monotonic, even Dragonball Evolution was a better adaption(that was epic fail as well). The animated feature film of FenWan2 was way better then this POS.

[–] dont_b_so_BBC 14 years ago

was i trying hard to HIDE the fact i got the DVD rip? NO. no cinema around here is showing it. so sorry i aint gonna buy a airplane ticket just to see this POS of a movie.

lol i like how u use the word "mind-boggling" on the effects. flying smoke trails obviously appeals to ur taste? the particle effects arnt worth $$ to watch it on the big screens it wont be anything spectacular that we haven't seen. this aint Avatar or 2012.

Sigh, do stop commenting on the CGI detail/color of a movie when watching a bad print-- cos you know you have absolutely NO credibility/authority (unless you're posting a comment about a specific download/rip). Trust me, if "Dance of the Demons" looked bad on YOUR video... it's because YOUR video couldn't show the sheer amount of detail/motion that was put into the particle effects.

But if your video wasn't stuttering (too much), maybe you'd at least notice that they got the "framerate" of the CGI backdrop/effects right-- I mean, the other main trait of bad CG (besides "pixelation") is how the actors/camera moves out-of-sync relative with the CG effects/backdrop (cos it's really the CG and not the actors who are moving)... like the Spiderman trilogy "overkill" where swinging/flying through the city often looks fake despite great color and detail.

Even on the released trailers, "Mastery of Ten Thousand Swords" was awesome in that it created the illusion that the swords were being controlled (with difficulty) by No-Name. And that meant getting the CG backdrops/effects to move in-sync relative to the actors-- p.s. no real swords were harmed/used in the process.

there is pretty much 0 character or plot development. yet u put everything down to how WU XIA stories are suppose to be like which is total BS. did u even read the bloody comic? This is a movie not a action scene storyboard. i dont remember WU XIA comics been so monotonic, even Dragonball Evolution was a better adaption(that was epic fail as well). The animated feature film of FenWan2 was way better then this POS.

Hey, I actually agree with you on all this-- the animated feature does hold up better as a whole, though only the river/lake battle stood out for me. Watching Storm Warriors does seem to be watching flowers in a turd...

And I would totally understand your anger if you bought an air ticket just to watch this (I believe it's only worth a rental)-- but you apparently got a copy of it for free-- so why? I mean, even a bad movie can have (or be enjoyed for) one or two good things going for it....

"I don't go to movies to escape reality: I go to experience life in a raw, intense way"-- S. Copley

[–] hitokiri_sen 14 years ago

yea this movie was definitely all fancy visuals and no story or character development. I didn't hate this movie, nor was i blown away it. The CGI did look good; but was obviously inspired by 300. I hope that the third installment goes deeper into the comic's lore and story and it should definitely tone down on the special effects. 2-3 epic fight scenes can still make this movie a hit but its gotta be backed up with a solid story and characters.

[–] trypt 14 years ago

Bud, this movie is like the new generation of Chinese fantasy, it's awesome. Have you never seen Zu (Magic) Mountain Warrior movies? The Evil Cult? The story is secondary to the incredible powers of the heroes and villains and the fights between them. If you added a great story, character development and drama, you'd have yourself Lord of the Rings type fare, but that requires millions of dollars.

"You were assimilated, resistance was futile!"

[–] nLeo08 14 years ago

I don't think this movie is so bad that it should be ban! by the way, I really enjoy the arguments here.

I think it's too hard to rate this movie since I don't know in which category to put this movie in. I don't know it should be like a traditional movie like others with story, actors, camera work, photography...or it is an experimental movie which brings the whole graphic stuffs in the comic to the screen so that they can satisfy the fans of this series.

If I have to rate it as a traditional way, it should be 4 or so. But if I look at it as an experimental movie, I will give it a 7. It has a beautiful style, action scenes, and climax emotions and some strong ideas about asian culture.

I think there are many ways to reads a movie and you don't have to be a professional critic to do this. we don't have to stick with the idea of story, character developments, dialogs...all the time. You don't have to understand it to enjoy it. As long as it entertains you, it's good enough; and if you don't like it, don't make yourself to watch it.

[–] cinesimonj 14 years ago

I haven't seen this film, however the fact that you and narcissists like yourself really hate it, makes me want it to be really, really great.

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