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Waltz with Bashir - the greatest film of the decade?


i say yes... no film was as moving, haunting, inventive and groundbreaking... here it is:

http://nyccine.blogspot.com/2009/12/top-10-films-of-2000s.html

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I can start naming off hundreds of movies that were more moving, well done, better direction, better writers.

Don't get me wrong, this IS a good movie. But not a great movie. The Story telling is the best part, but you don't intimately connect with the Characters. Partly because the way the animation was done was purposely with metaphors and hyperbole. It makes it surreal so the real characters are kept at a distance from the viewer.

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perhaps you dont connect with the characters because you can't relate to the ideas and emotions in the movie. franktly i can't think of another movie in which i've connected MORE intimately with the characters.

WALTZ is a movie for grown-ups and people who've lived through loss and war and who struggle with their identity. WALTZ is a movie for the 21st century when alot of filmmakers are still making 20th century movies.

it isn't an easy movie and that's what makes it ultimately so rewarding and moving.

in 30 years people will talk about WALTZ the same way we talk about HIROSHIMA MON AMOUR and DAYS OF HEAVEN.

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It's no Schindler's List.



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you're right it's no SCHINDLER'S LIST. it offers a far more complex, nuanced portrait of Jewish identity than SCHINDLER'S LIST.

SCHINDLER'S LIST is a fine, classically-told film but i find it difficult to completely relate to a Holocaust film in which a Jew isn't the protagonists and Spielberg's reliance on passive, Nazi-imagery of the Jews as sheep is messed-up.

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Yo regomarliam. I just looked up the best animated movies of the last 20 years.

If you had to choose one animated movie of the last 10 what would it be?

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Don't mean to be rude by intruding but... Wall-e!!! No I'm kidding, although I liked it very much.

I mostly like every pixar but I'd probably say Spirited Away, Millenium Actress, Mind Game and Waking Life as my top 4. I liked Waltz a lot too but then again, I'm no grown-up..

Then again, I wouldn't imagine a grown-down fonding too much on my top4.

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WALL*E is amazing! :)

I haven't heard of MILLENIUM ACTRESS or MIND GAME... what's the deal with those? who made them? where are they from?

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Millenium Actress, anime, directed by Satoshi Kon, great romance with a crazy plot.

Mind Game, anime or not because the animation is one of the wildest I have ever seen to work so well under its themes. I don't know the director and I can't say how I fell upon it's IMDB page but here it is -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452039/ I highly recommend this one It's about love, fate, luck and hope, in a very summarized way. It has great comedic and musical taste as well.

Both from Japan.

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I have to agree that Vals Im Bashir is a great movie, it inovate the way of making documentaries, and it is so revoltant due to his deepness, but that isn´t the best movie of the decade in my opinion.

Don´t forget the memorable and brilliant "There Will Be Blood", the joy of seeing "Le Fabuleux Destin d´Amelie Poulain" and the frenetic "Cidade de Deus".

So my top 5 of the decade would be:

5- LOTR: The Fellowship of The Ring
4- Vals Im Bashir
3- Cidade de Deus
2- Le Fabuleux Destin d´Amelie Poulain
1- There Will Be Blood

But of course, there are still many movies that I haven´t seen yet.

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Definately one of the decade's finest. A visceral film. To not be moved is to not pay any attention to what's onscreen.

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Made my top 10, but didn't get number 1

"You haven't got the feel of this at all, lad. Use all your voices. When I bellow, bellow back."

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I think what impressed me most is that Waltz With Bashir really is a reinvention of the documentary form. It starts as an animated drama and gradually becomes more documentary-like until at last in the final images, it is no longer fiction.

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It's the best film I've ever seen, so yeah, for me the greatest film of the decade.

It's such a highly unique film, with a genius structure to it. As the guy above mentioned, " It starts as an animated drama and gradually becomes more documentary-like until at last in the final images, it is no longer fiction."

Just when you're starting to get desensitised to the war violence, the last half kicks in when the mirror is broken as mentioned with the horse death scene. Then the film becomes more harrowing, and is not looking to entertain you with pop songs like it did with the accessible 1st act.

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Its not the greatest film of the decade but it is one of my personal favourites, very striking film that certainly struck a chord with me

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I liked it too

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this is nothing but a bashing film by a group of leftists.

the 1999 japanese movie "Rurôni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen" is THE best animated film ever made and might be in top 20 of overall movies ever.

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At least concerning anti-war films,I will agree with you. I do not understand the overall 7.9 rating of this film. But then, that is one reason I enjoy this site - reading differing opinions. Still, 7.9?

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