Hard To Get Into


I found this film incredibly difficult to get into. It baffles me because I haven't spoken to one person who disliked it. Maybe the subject of war bores me? Anyone else feel this way?

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Maybe you shouldn't see it as a movie to that's made to entertain you.

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It starts off pretty slow, there's this feeling of disconnect definitely throughout the beginning of the film. I started to really enjoy it after about half hour or so. Give it a chance to pull you in, and it will...

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I watched it for a second time this eve and found it irritating for a second time. I guess the fact that women and children were killed and this div of a solider couldn't remember it just made me feel uncomfortable twice....AND this was not fiction. It stood as no testament to the families of those who were killed. Not being able to remember and making it as a cartoon, not offering the perspective of the victims merely serves to trivialize suffering. Going round to all of your mates and at no point appearing uncomfortable....or even shedding a tear....its just weird.

my review...

I saw this film at the Cinema in London where I live and I did not enjoy it. It just didn't work for me. I think the documentary style mixed with animation was incongruous and distracting and did not lend itself well to its subject matter. I also felt that it lacked characters, I felt that the people were all one dimensional and well cartoonish. The animation did not bring to life the people involved.

Sure it was visually arresting but that was not enough - film is propelled by story too. I just did not sympathize with the protagonist and therefore didn't care about his journey into memory. I did not get any sense of who he was prior to the war and what provoked him to start remembering or indeed visiting his army colleagues?

We did not see the protagonist change which is a tenet of film. Slowly remembering was a weak premise and was not enough to sustain me. The remembering appeared to have no effect on him whatsoever. It came across as a lot of facts that were disturbing facts, sure. I think it would have worked better if the memory sequences where animated and the interviews were filmed. The dullest thing I have ever seen on screen is a man being interviewed as a cartoon.

It was over stylized. I also found the constant "talking" distracted from the visuals and being "told" the story whilst being "shown" the story was amateurish and unnecessary. There's an old maxim "don't tell the story show the story"and surely that would be the purpose of using animation. The film would have worked with much less dialogue/voice over.

I didn't feel I knew the main protagonist at all and had no real sense of his relationships with the other people. I asked myself why use animation to tell such a story? What does the animation add to this story? Nothing! As for the ending well. It hijacked itself as far as I am concerned because it reverted to film. Ultimately the horrors that it was trying to convey with animation where more starkly depicted with film rather than animation. And ultimately the horrors belong to the innocent not some dozy solider.

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buckledylan, I think you're getting bogged down with trying to hold this film to traditional movie standards. This film wasn't about character development, it was a psychological war thriller that was more about YOUR development through the story, with an appropriate but shocking ending.

The constant talking was there, because it's a documentary first and foremost. They showed enough, "don't tell, show" maxim. If you were shown those scenes, without Ari Folman's narration, you'd have little context to the plot and history. The whole film is meant to be surreal, and disconnecting, because you're going through Folman's mind. The animation adds so much to the story, because you get to go into Folman's dreams and hallucinations that stuck with him for so long after the war until the film was made.

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I have some sympathy with the OP. I also thought it was a bit hard getting into. What bothered me more, however, was that no animation can ever convey the true horror of war. When you see the real footage at the end, it brings home the true horror of what happened. During the animation of people getting shot, I wasn't moved in the slightest.

I commend the filmmakers for transforming a documentary into an artsy animation but, for me, it's style over substance. I just think animation was the wrong style to choose for the subject matter. Either do a proper documentary with real footage or re-enact the scenes using real actors.

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I think using animation was good for the movie because it's like adding a filter; it adds a level of detachment. Going through bad memories and observing ourselves in the third person can be therapeutic, because then we do so without judgment. Something like this is mentioned in the movie when Boaz says "can't films be therapeutic?" or something like that.

The whole movie is pretty much about Ari Folman trying to remember his own experiences from the war, so I think in a way he was trying to use the movie to help himself figure things out about himself. At the end when we see the young Folman sweating at the sight of the women, then the real footage comes on I think it means he finally remembers the full extent of the horror. It's probably something that's very hard to distance yourself from.

Anyways, those are my thoughts.

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