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Hollywood is a hypocrite in retrospect

posted 12 years ago by DoctorDeNada
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I don't have a problem with Roger Corman in general. What I have a problem with is that, now in retrospect, Hollywood is now holding Corman up as a genius. It's kind of like how the press worshipping Mohammed Ali now, but back in the day, he was crusified in the press. I'm just saying, it's funny how the media changes their tune once history has proven them wrong. How many times have you seen a movie critic rip on a movie, but twenty years later, they are claiming it as an obvious classic... like a lot of them did with Star Wars (so much so, that almost all of them was scared to death to announce that the prequel moves her bad.)

Don't confuse my lack of funds for company loyalty.

[–] we_are_nihilists 12 years ago

Not really. People have always looked at him in different ways and this film is just about bringing them all to light. Hollywood isn't all one voice.

[–] WarpedRecord 12 years ago

Is your diatribe against Hollywood or the media — or both?

"Hollywood" never condemned Roger Corman, and "Hollywood" isn't holding him up as a genius today. His films have always found their audience, and today the members of that audience who are still around are probably still fans — along with a younger generation discovering his work. His films have always been scrappy, low-budget pleasures for those who appreciate such efforts.

As for "Star Wars," I didn't notice a turnaround in critical assessment. It was a blockbuster that some critics liked in 1977, others didn't and still others were indifferent toward. How has that changed today?

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[–] mikeyflatley 12 years ago

truer werdz have never been spoken. (ie. blade runner. peter jackson winnin best dir)

I live, I love, I slay, and I'm content

[–] mikeyflatley 12 years ago

not just hollywood. life.

how many timez when da guy diez and hes suddenly a saint? michael jackson mocked by da tabloidz and then suddenly boo hoo we lost a legend from da 80s. or just normal everyday life, a relative u cant stand, and suddenly how sad. i guess u can say its forgiveness, i like 2 call it hello mr hypocrisy

wait a few yrz and u will see dat Bush jr will be heralded as a grate prez. they crucified carter now hes a grate guy again

and they dont have 2 be proven wrong. there is no wrong or rite. its just da flavor of da month. da grate frankie mannin who wuz 1 of pioneerz of jazz/swing era in the 30s and 40s. all of a sudden no1 listen 2 jazz so hes out of da pic and da guy just workin as a postal worker 4 next 30somethin yrz. fast-fwd late 80s and early 90s, jazz/swing is hip again and now he's a legend again. mr h.

or how bout those automatic watchez dat nobody buys anymore bec of invention of quartz watches. totally sent da swiss watch industry down da toilet. fast-fwd 80s, oh its hip again and james bond wearz 1 and now they back in biz.

how bout tennis? connorz and McEnroe, they were basically spoiled, arrogant prickz on da tennis court durin their prime. nobody liked them. absolutely classless and nuttin like gentlemen like bjorn borg or arthur ashe. fast-fwd early 90s, they're old geezerz on da court and every1 luvin them and cheerin them on. da latter is now a popular commentator. foul-mouthed, u cant be serious McEnroe, a commentator. howz dat 4 hypocrisy?

I live, I love, I slay, and I'm content

[–] DoctorDeNada 12 years ago

I just wish people would stand by their convictions. and if those convictions have changed, say it. That is how I felt back then and now that I've re-thought it, I flipped-flopped opinion. It happens I do it all the time. But you should have to admit it and not pretend you loved it whole time.

Don't confuse my lack of funds for company loyalty.

[–] booyahboy_uk 12 years ago

I do believe alot of people do change their opinions over time, it comes with age and the ability to reasses things in a different context,which is an ability only an adult would really possess.

"If they move......Kill 'em!"

[–] LotrFanboy 12 years ago

michaelflatley_clone,

Good grief, you're an idiot. Write properly.

[–] booyahboy_uk 12 years ago

I think he's being ironic, at least I hope so.

"If they move......Kill 'em!"

[–] The_Dying_Flutchman 12 years ago

The OP writes like an illiterate dork, not that there's anything wrong with it.

The sense itself was I.

[–] jasongaylor 12 years ago

It's always the case with artists who refuse to compromise and hold their integrity dear. The artists who rather go back to working a 9 to 5 job instead of selling out commercially and doing something they loathe. Many of the best artists(musicians, directors, actors, comedians, painters etc..etc..) were never popular on a mainstream level when they were producing their best work. It's a shame but after awhile, they are finally recognized for their wonderful contributions on that mainstream level...and that is because there was always a huge fan-base out there who loved their work and constantly raved about it to everyone they came across.

Before the "Internet", there was "word of mouth" and "underground trading". This is how most folks would learn about the artists of the sub-culture back then. This is how their work came to be appreciated and admired. Concerning Mainstream Hollywood, they eventually catch on because of that huge fan-base and profits generated. Case in point, Roger Corman. Also many A-list actors and directors who got their start due to him talking about his contributions and importance helps too.

It's not just Hollywood though. Look at the "Rock And Roll Hall Fame". To quote Yoda...Completely clueless, they are.

[–] Henry_Framus_Valentine 11 years ago

When was Hollywood not hypocritical?

I find my solace then in bottles,
And I forget them axolotls.