As with Adam Scott's opening monologue, I disagree vehemently with almost everything you wrote. I GOT the movie, I GOT the opening dialogue, I GOT everything except I didn't/don't get people like his character and the people in their lives who let them get away with acting the way they do.
As with the other poster, you missed the entire point to my post. I wasn't asking you to criticize me, my choice of movies, choice of characters I like, etc. You seem intelligent but you also seem a lot like Adam Scott's character but I'll continue this post anyway. I'm guessing you're intelligent, so therefore I ask you to re-read my post and think to yourself whether you answered my question, you didn't. I'm sure in your movie-watching experience you're tired of certain characters or certain stories told a certain way, that is the only question I was asking and that is the only answer I'm interested in reading.
I read your post and if you post again, I will only answer if you answer my original question. One other "character" I was over with the instant I read my first one? The poster like yourself who flames the OP or any other poster whose ideals, thoughts and beliefs that don't agree with your own.
Now that you have accepted today's Three Billy Goats Gruff award, please answer my question and do so with the intelligence you SEEM to have indicated that you have by the writing in your post.
On a side note, we differ in our belief of the world. I believe people are inherently good and I believe people can change if they want to. And probably the most important point I want to make? Art is not "SUPPOSED" to be anything other than what it is. Some art reflects life, some art inspires life and some art degrades it. Art is in the eye of the beholder and how it changes the beholder for better or worse and to what depth.
You're obviously a cynic but probably describe yourself to other people as a realist. I'm a realist who is also an optimist. You're more like Adam Scott and I'm guessing you've had some women work you over pretty good but I'm sorry to tell you that it's your own fault. If a woman senses you're not the man that she thought that you were/are, she will make your life miserable until she breaks up with you. If she senses a weakness in your integrity she will pour salt in that wound until you yield, at which point she will move on and to a certain degree laugh at your incompetence. But again, that's on you if she does that, you're supposed to be an integrity-filled man who has a course set and will not set his sights on the first star he sees. If you're not that man, a woman will send you on a wild, bumpy ride and it's your fault.
To use your life and your philosophy, you need to accept it and move on. You must know different people than I do because most people DON'T accept their mistakes and move on. MOST people simply carry them around like sacks of sand weighing them down and DON'T deal with them effectively. In this case, it's you. You need to look in a mirror and reflect on your own art in your own life and change what needs changing and stop being so damn cynical and bitter.
Here endeth the lesson, your move slick...
PS - For the record, the book I am currently reading is "Sauces" by James Peterson and I have never seen an episode of "Entourage" nor do I want to.
A good fight is one you win!
James Woods as Eddie Dodd in True Believer
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weirdjake
14 years ago
He got away with his behavior, because he only hung out with people that looked up to him like his brother and the construction worker. You don't change an idol, because you see him as perfect.
Second, in the first post you said you disagree vehemently with the opening monologue and that you just didnt get it, but now you say that you do get it.
Also I agree that humans are inherently good, but once they become damaged or pained they become angry or an *beep* Probably as a self defense mechanism. Much of a persons mentality stems from their up-bringing and socioeconomic class, so it is quite hard for them to change.
Your quite spot on with your analysis of me, Well done. However You make It seem like Im bitter, most Relationships I have been in were ended mutually for reasons of circumstance I.E. different College or Job.
On a final note you don't really sound like a realist, more naive than anything. If you really think I am going to answer your question
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fearless_flyer
13 years ago
Wow... bitter much...? I normally wouldn't stoop to the lowest common denominator by speaking to people such as yourself but I am feeling just childish enough to engage you (should you grace me with your presence again).
First off - your handle CodeVeronicaXXX - a resident evil reference or your current career in the porn industry? If it's the former, good for you, I respect chicks who play video games and if it's the latter - take your sexist comments home, wrap them up and give them away as Christmas presents as they're unwelcome here.
Second - since you won't be coming back, you can't judge my hypocrisy, so you're also a psyhic, knowing what I say and think? Please tell me how the rest of my life is going to turn out then!
Third - my quote that you took out of context...? Doesn't mean what you think it means. Yes, people think they exist in a vacuum and that their actions and their responsibility for them begins and ends with themselves. Let me ask you this - removing the obvious emotionally overcharged rape reference, what if I got drunk and passed out at a party at which point everyone would write on my face with permanent marker, stick cigarettes in my ears and nose and then post my pic on Facebook. You'd think that's pretty funny right? What does every party goer know as one of the cardinal rules of partying? NEVER be the first one to pass out at a party? Why? EVERYONE knows what will happen...
Fourth - the quote once again - I'm guessing you're a chick and I was defending a woman's right to give her man grief if he acts without integrity and to make his life h*ll if you does so on a regular basis. It's about accountability and responsibility, we don't exist in vacuums; our actions and words are our implied promises to other people that we will act with integrity when we deal with them.
Fifth - calling me narrow-minded and then refusing to discuss anything else by not returning to this board to discuss something in an adult manner is the definition of narrow-mindedness and therefore you made yourself a hypocrit.
Sixth - as a relatively intelligent person, I can by the experience of seeing over 3000 movies over the course of my lifetime, let people know my thoughts on what I do and don't like. My opinion is all I can say is truly my own and as such, I own it. Call it naive or whatever you want but I won't back away from something I've said. I may apologize for it later but I won't disown it. The character I despise in this movie is a personality type I despise in real life. Art imitates life and vice versa, I would rather watch a movie like "That Thing You Do" with charming personalities, good character development and people who I would like to hang out with. I would hang out with the character in this movie as little as possible. And, he'd probably think the same thing about me, my friends and anyone else who happened along given his vitriolic outlook on life.
Seventh - if my brother did to me what the idiot in the film did; he'd be nursing a lot more bruises than the idiot in the film. After which, I'd likely disown him, at least for little while.
Eighth and just to annoy you - want to know a movie storyline I'm tired of? The one where aliens are looking to destroy the human race because of our warring ways and with one act of self-sacrifice the aliens spare us. Forgetting the fact that with 6B+ people on the planet, that kind of thing goes on all the time, many times, every second of every day. The movie that comes to mind first is the director's cut of "The Abyss" among so many others.
I think that's enough for a post you're not likely to read or at least respond to. In closing, if my suspicions are correct, I apologize to you on behalf of the idiot that entered your life in an unmanly way. His complete lack of integrity is a burden all men share equally because we all have to live with the mistakes other men make.
A good fight is one you win!
James Woods as Eddie Dodd in True Believer
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