I'm in the middle of a row.
I think this is a pro weed film (or at least in favour of legalising it or not condemning it), what do you think?
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=7917401 - Vote Historyshare
I don't really think it's either.
It's about a man and some friends who have THEIR judgement on it and go abou their business.
I never found the film to be pushing their particular point of view.
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hmmm. pro...
a lot of time is spent glamourising it, less is spent showing punishment and theres not really any negative sides shown (health or it leading to harder drugs)
It's pro - the only thing that seems wrong about marihuana is that it's illegal.
It doesn't show people lying around all day doing fa but smoking weed and thinking about weed.
It doesn't show any such negative aspects of dope-smoking, such as terrible apathy.
(True, it doesnm't affect all people like this, but only the positive sides are shown)
On a purely personal note, I would have been very happy to see a long and detailed review of all the wonderful varities of hasish that now seem sadly extinct - Paki and Afghan black, temple balls, Lebanese red and gold, etc.
If you smoked dope during this period, there was such a wonderful profusion of types and grades.
Now there's only wretched skunk, which is rhino tranquiliser.
To preecejon...
"a lot of time is spent glamourising it, less is spent showing punishment and theres not really any negative sides shown (health or it leading to harder drugs"
That is one of the most OTT statements I've heard. Marijuana doesn't lead to harder drugs. That's a common misconception held by people who have never had anything to do with marijuana. If you've ever had a joint you'll know. When you're smoking you don't sit there thinking "yeah, but what I really want now is some heroin..."
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your wrong.
i smoked weed...then because i moved in those circles tryed stronger stuff that i wouldnt have otherwise been around
Well then some people (like my friends and I) must have stronger willpower than you because we've never bothered with 'stronger stuff'. I suppose you could say I 'move in those circles' as well. Strange that I've never tried anything else - let alone been offered anything else.
I love the phrase 'moved in those circles'. You make smoking a harmless joint sound like the plot of Blow.
good for you, maybe your the exception. or your just boring...
shareYeah I'm boring because I'm not a junkie. That makes sense.
shareif your will power is strong then you could try anything once...no?
shareYeah of course but there are certain things that I wouldn't try because I think they're wrong. Take heroin for example. I've seen first hand what it does to people (the user and their family). I wouldn't put that filth in my veins under any circumstances.
I understand the point you're making and you're correct but sometimes a person's moral code will overrule the decision to 'try something once'.
Put it this way, I like a joint and I like a beer and I have no desire to seek out any substitute. In actual fact, one of the things I like about smoking weed is the social aspect to it. I like sitting about with a few mates whilst smoking a joint and putting the world to rights. It's no different to going to the pub and having a few beers with the lads.
Perhaps weed does lead to other drugs if you 'hang around in those circles' - but I also think you'd have to go looking for it to find it. In other words, if a person tries a bit of coke or H after starting out on weed, I think it is because they had a desire to experiment and not simply because weed is a gateway drug. If weed was a gateway drug, then every stoner would at one point or another end up on harder drugs. Clearly this is not the case.
If the argument that marijuana is a gateway drug has any validity, then it must be accepted that the real gateway drugs are tobacco and alcohol. I dont know a single person who didn't try either or both of those drugs prior to smoking pot.
shareCannabis is a gateway drug- I know from first hand experience- I am addicted to cigarettes :/
Not one of my friends has a problem with illicit drugs. The drugs my friends have had problems with have either been sold by a pub or pushed by a quack.
this is definitely a "pro-marijuana" film.
you know that because the narrative does not devote a lot of time - as one previous poster put it - to showing you the negatives of the herb (and there are only one or two, unlike with "drugs" - which marijuana is classified as, but isn't).
as another poster stated, one of the common misconceptions (cliches) about the substance is that it's addictive and/or leads to harder substances. "mr. nice" doesn't address that, either, but then, anybody who's ever smoked (or eaten) marijuana knows that it only affects people with "addictive" personality types in those ways.
and, of course, pot is a far less dangerous (and addictive) substance than either alcohol or tobacco (not to mention "hard drugs", which nobody can use "recreationally", because you either do them or are totally consumed by them). marijuana even has medicinal qualities - as all of the controversies currently brewing in many u.s. states show; except for alcohol, nothing of the kind can attested to on behalf of tobacco or hard drugs.
yeah, the film is definitely "pro" on the subject of pot.
i'm not so sure, though, after watching it, that i think howard marks did what he did all those years (during that era) because he hated marijuana legislation (l.o.l.)
i think was just an ordinary, family-type guy (apart from having been an oxford student, and a teacher) who liked getting stoned.
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share "Cannabis is a gateway drug- I know from first hand experience- I am addicted to cigarettes :/"
You "know from first hand experience" that cannabis is a "gateway drug", because you are "addicted to cigarettes"? How does this even make sense? Wait, never mind, it doesn't.
"Not one of my friends has a problem with illicit drugs. The drugs my friends have had problems with have either been sold by a pub or pushed by a quack."
Always someone else's "fault", eh? And it doesn't matter if it's legal or not...you're still addicted and according to your own standards, being an addict makes you a failure.
Now that we know that you and all your friends are a bunch of addicts, can we start building that scaffold for y'all?
This is also re: your posts for "The House I Live In".
Alexlarge: "If the argument that marijuana is a gateway drug has any validity, then it must be accepted that the real gateway drugs are tobacco and alcohol. I dont know a single person who didn't try either or both of those drugs prior to smoking pot."
I love that argument. I'm going to steal that one next time i get a lecture about weed being a gateway drug.
Everyones personal experience is different. I know some people who started smoking weed and then moved onto other stuff. Its impossible to say whether they would have taken harder drugs without the weed.
My personal experience is the opposite. I used to go out and take pills coke etc and it calmed down when i started smoking weed. I prefered to stay in and have a smoke over going out and getting high. So I dont think anyone should presume that weed is a gateway drug to anything.
I hate the "Gateway" drug theory
I once heard a debate on tv , guy A says "....and he started on pot before he went to <whatever>"
Guy B says " I think you'll find he started on milk"
Brilliant!
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