Oh my ....... this is bad, really bad - War of the Worlds 2: The Next Wave (2008) Discussion

[–] mycarrion 16 years ago

Exactly.

Amazingly enough there is a thread that follows yours entitled "Quite good really", and goes on to say "All in all an engaging and entertaining film."

Another poster in the same thread says "On a technical level it's stellar, the cinematography is nice looking"

I understand completely that different strokes are the deal, but I sense that these two have an inside connection to this "film", and therefore are trying to bolster something that is simply without legs.

It's a real beast, and it's not stv and without promotion for no reason. If a trailer from this movie were to be shown on television it would be met with the "acclaim" it deserves. But they haven't dared to publicize it. Now you can see why, if you dare to waste your time.

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[–] junttijoe 16 years ago

"I understand completely that different strokes are the deal, but I sense that these two have an inside connection to this "film", and therefore are trying to bolster something that is simply without legs."

I am that other poster you were talking about and I can honestly say that I have nothing at all to do with this movie or it's producers. I have seen a lot of Asylum's earlier movies and I have spoken with the producers and directors of some of their productions before though.

I have seen my fair share of low budget and no budget movies. I've learned to review different movies in different ways.

I can't stand movies like Date Movie or Epic movie, with budgets like that and they can't do any better, it's unbelievable. In big studio movies the budget or time restraints aren't usually an issue (I know that they are allways a issue, but not in the same way like in these productions). But when you're dealing with budgets under a million (Most Asylum movies are budgeted under a million, one of their latest movies I am Omega had a budget of $250,000 and it was shot in 12 days) it's extremely hard to make a good genre movie.

I think it's great that they had the guts to make a big budget studio movie on a shoe string budget (at least compared to the budget of Spielberg's version of WOTW).

I have seen some of Asylum's movies that have looked and sounded absolutely rubbish, most of them are boring, and uninteresting movies.

Like I said in my earlier post, compared to Asylum's other productions, this is good. You HAVE to take the budget into consideration, I don't know what it was in this movie (I hope some of the producers will come here and tell us) but it was obviously a low budget movie.

I don't think it's fair to compare this to a studio film.

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[–] SecretSiteAgent 16 years ago

I'm sorry, but you would say that wouldn't you. I will with hold my judgement until I have seen it and judge it on it's merits, but I am really getting annoyed with there system of rip-off titles to suck us in. If the films were any goods, they wouldn't have to use guile to promote them.

Sorry and all that.

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[–] junttijoe 16 years ago

I can't blame you.
But Check out I am Omega, that was maybe the best Asylum movie I have ever seen.

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[–] MiturBinesderti 16 years ago

Wow, you really don't know a bad movie when you see it. I am Omega was horrible. But at least I now know that if you like a movie it will be one of the worst films ever made so I can use you as a gauge on what movies to avoid.

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[–] horton-2 16 years ago

Agree. How on earth anybody could've enjoyed this movie is behond my understanding. Even if not the badness of it all you can't overlook the absolute stupidity of so many of the scenes and that is not subjective.

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[–] SecretSiteAgent 13 years ago

I've seen this now. Load of old tosh. If we could connect HG Wells coffin to a generator we would have enough a cheap energy to power the mainland UK.
I want another 90 minutes back.

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[–] exorcist1998-1 16 years ago

Why is it sad that it had any kind of release ?
What a stupid statement from a nobody that thinks he is somebody.

They had as much right as anyone to make and release it.
What gives you the right to dictate what films should and should not get released ?

They did not use your money to make it so what is it to you wether its released or not.

"when in doubt - kill !"
Richard Crenna , First Blood

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[–] mycarrion 16 years ago

"What a stupid statement from a nobody that thinks he is somebody."

The poster never said it shouldn't be released, as you quantify. They have an opinion, and it was stated. It's ok for you to disagree, but why take it so personally that you have to make such a worthless, nasty statement towards them? This isn't a forum for your anger management issues.

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[–] darkpoet-1 16 years ago

...what are you? ~a producer?

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[–] Riptides 16 years ago

What a stupid statement from a nobody that thinks he is somebody.

Pot meet kettle.

They did not use your money to make it so what is it to you wether its released or not.

Assuming one would have to pay money to see this, then yes, in a round about way, they did use "your" money to make it.
BTW, that statement wasn't witty the first time you used it either. But thanks for playing.

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[–] greengem 16 years ago

I have to ask the people who wasted their time watching this 'What did you expect?'
The first movie in 2005 was a complete waste of the fantastic storyline and it shows Tom Cruise's slide in standards that he did it. Only the special effects and the Hollywood marketing machine allowed it to make an impression for such an average movie.

But this is a sequel to a poor movie without the big actors.

The best War of The Worlds movie is still the 1950's version, which is far superior.

I'd rather watch the news channel than this one.

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[–] aicdragon 16 years ago

"I have to ask the people who wasted their time watching this 'What did you expect?'
The first movie in 2005 was a complete waste of the fantastic storyline and it shows Tom Cruise's slide in standards that he did it. Only the special effects and the Hollywood marketing machine allowed it to make an impression for such an average movie."

Actually Greengem, this is not a sequel to the Tom Cruise War of the Worlds of 2005. This is the sequel to "The OTHER War of the Worlds" that came out in 2005 also starring C. Thomas Howell. This film is a direct continuation of that film.... and was just as laughably bad. At one point he finds his lost brother under some rubble in which he removes said rubble. Then, only to discover his brother had lost the lower half of his body. When this is discovered his brother manages to live for longer than he should, acting as if he had a bum leg or a concussion or SOMETHING other than lacking the lower half of his body LOL And apparently water helps alleviate the pain or something because thats what he wants and he has a nice coherent conversation with C. Thomas before finally succumbing to his injuries. Just some insight!

Although no props to Tom Cruise's either.

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[–] aicdragon 16 years ago

Oh... one other thing I whole heartedly agree that the 50's version is by far the vast superior version.

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[–] morf76 16 years ago

so, go back to your fifties and watch your all perfect movies.. i realy like that s.spielberg's one from two thousand and five. it's well done. but.. not many ppl share this opinion, i know, only 50k :)

p.s. wotw 2 is not amusing and not worth watching. do not waste your time on that one.

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[–] oscarsjocrona 16 years ago

The 1950 version is 2 hours of wasted time of your life, I mean watching a science fiction movie is 50% about the special effects.

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[–] jcnb007 16 years ago

I completely agree with oscarsjocrona on this one. Also after looking at a few trailers for wotw2 off youtube i also agree that this movie is a waste of time and nowhere near as good as the first war of the worlds from 2005 starring tom cruise.

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[–] junttijoe 16 years ago

Maybe you should watch the movie before making any judgements.
This wasn't a masterpiece, but the crappy trailer makes this look a lot worse than it is.

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[–] leemo1971 16 years ago

complete rubbish just watched it,shame to see c thomas howell resorting to directing and acting in this,a good actor gone to waste....

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[–] kris-411 16 years ago

compared to Asylum's other productions, this is good. You HAVE to take the budget into consideration

I know nothing about 'Asylum', nor am I aware of the budget. All I know is that this is supposed to be WOTW 2, and I watched it as such. My verdict? A total waste of my time, and one of the worst films I've ever seen.

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[–] merrydown 16 years ago

I have to agree. My first reaction towards this film was defensive. I think C. Thomas Howell is a pretty good actor, but he needs a good director and editor to bring out and isolate his best moments. I think this film is rated about right. There are brief glimpses of a film in there, but mostly it is terrible due to poor plot, exposition, awful backdrops.

The acting is almost bearable, almost. The one redeeming factor really is the cgi which is pretty good really. I didn't realise they had done their own version of war of the worlds, I won't be watching that.

What disappoints me is the way even the excellent 50s version took the idea away from the UK (and yes I am from the UK) and reset it in America. I know that Americans can cope with films which aren't set in their own country all the time, so why patronise Americans..? Ho hum. I suppose I am glad the UK had nothing to do with this turkey.

I wish someone would give Howell a break in a decent movie though...

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[–] ulrichburke 16 years ago

They're a little independant lot, doing the best they can with zilcho.

I LOVED the Walker - I don't know much about CGI, but I'd've loved to have copy'n'pasted that sucka a few hundred times and had a distant shot of an army of 'em walking over the horizon. Same with the spacecraft. But that's a minor gripe, really

I think Asylum do well because of their enthusiasm. They keep on going. And they're learning real fast - I've just watched this movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The dialogue was good. The plot was good. They didn't have any money for effects, but the few they did have they used well and intelligently. Let's hope we get a few squids in the next one - there's obviously going to BE a next one!

It's fascinating watching them getting better on their own terms. I'm looking forwards to seeing what they come up with next. Money doesn't always a good movie make!

Vive l'independence

Chris.

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[–] toappleway 16 years ago

What about the guy who played Major Kramer? I didn't think he was to bad, actually pretty good considering what he had to work with. The guy is a good actor. I just saw him in Miracle at Sage Creek on Showtime and he was very good in it.

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[–] imdb-19600 16 years ago

I know why. There is some thing called TheAsylum and these ppl make movies. It is some kind of a cult or what, but every movie I've seen from them SUCKS BIG TIME. But they have many followers who write good stuff about the movies. I don't get it.

I will paste here my imdb review, which I submitted for one of their movies. I think it was called Alien vs. predator 2 blablabla (or something like that). I wasn't expecting it to be published here (you'll see why), but you can read for yourself what IMBD actually put there: flattering piece of crap - even though most ppl wrote how awful it was, just like me. I think IMDB supports ANY film production and that's why they display the best review available as the main one for each movie.

Here is my review for the mentioned AVP2. Sadly, most of it is true for WoW2:

"This is my first post on IMDb, but I feel it is my moral obligation to
warn you against this monstrosity. If I shot the movie by using my old
analog VHS camcorder, it would have better cinematics. The "actors"...
I cannot express how AWFUL they are, it's like watching retarded first
graders in a school play. The props - ridiculous! The alien hunter
looks like 14th century knight in his armor, just painted green. All
visual effects (i.e. "alien view") are done by shooting through the
bottom of an ashtray, seriously. The alien/spider is always portrayed
with a shaking camera, to conceal the fact that it's a human in a badly
tailored Halloween costume. My grandma could do better.

I feel like I was raped. I have a really strong stomach when it
comes to bad movies, I can watch ANYTHING and find at least something
to enjoy, but after 20mins of this, blood was gushing from my eyes and
ears. I felt the urge to charge on the set and drive my fist through
the face of each and every one of the characters. I wanted to slit
their bellies right below the navel and as they screamed for mercy,
slowly pull their guts out, so I could hate them better. :)

Unless you wish to go through the same nightmare as I did, do not even
think about seeing this god-awful, detestable and abominable piece of
stinking offensive rot."

I downloaded WoW2 just for the kicks, to see if all TheAsylum movies were total crap and I gotta say YES. Each and every movie from TheAsylum is a pain to watch on so many levels.

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[–] toappleway 16 years ago

You have got to be kidding me. For someone who doesn't like these movies you sure seem to spend a lot of time watching them and even writing about them. IT'S ART! Something you obviously don't understand. It is not made for everyone to like all the time. Why do you even come to this board and waste your time and energy if you hate these films so much?

Art= Music, Painting, Photography, Pottery, Poetry, Architecture, even Wine for that matter, not everyone likes the same thing!

I thought this film was okay myself and I'm a very respected art collector. I like C Thomas Howell and have started watching Fred Griffith lately.

Can you please tell me the name of the last film you made (or art of any kind)? Let us be the judge of your work, because I think your review was awful and grammatically very poor, I sure hope you don't write for a living.

Just take art for what it is, ART! You are welcome to give your opinion but do you have to act like we should all like what you do and that you could do a better job, if that's the case, go make a film and I will probably watch yours too because i enjoy art.

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