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Not my CHERI AT ALL!


I love Colette's novel and those two are absolutely nothing like I imagined Cheri and Lea to look like.
I love Michelle, but please, I think she is too delicate to be Lea, not imposing enough, and Rupert too ugly to be Cheri.

I imagined Cheri to look Like Tom Sturridge from "Being Julia" and "Like Minds".

What do you think, do you agree with the casting?


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I enjoyed Michelle, and I think Rupert is a handsome guy, but I think he was miscast here. I would have suggested somebody like James Mcavoy, or Jim Sturgess for the role. Or somebody like newcomer Oliver Coleman (The Other Boleyn Girl, The Line of Beauty) to have played the role.

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I agree with "yellowraver05" James McAvoy would've been perfect as Cheri!

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Thinking in terms of the novel, Cheri should be impeccably beautiful, the more so to juxtappose his character arc: he gradually, with the erosion of time, emerges from a narcissistic world of surface values into a shattering and disillusioning encounter with mortality. In turn, this cruel awakening suggests Europe's transit from the Belle Epoque to World War One. It's the whole Dorian Grey thing, but on a psychological level. A young Monty Clift type, Eric Roberts before the accident, a sort of romping Pan/Adonis.

Lea needs to have a lush sensuality about her--here again the theme of mortality is sounded as she will metamorphize(in Cheri's eyes and in the "real world") from this ripe and rosy state into impending decay, a shedding of the cocoon of beauty and sexuality. Also, the era is represented in the novel as attenuatedly lush, oppulent, full. Food, money, sex, all the trappings of luxury are abundant and excessive. Michelle is lovely but too Hollywood- gaunt and over- preserved to evoke the sense of the era portrayed in the book or Lea's arc.

Like Flaubert's A Sentimental Journey, the tale on a literal level(Cheri One and Cheri Two) is about a young man's coming of age through his growing awareness of the mortal truths, forcing upon him a rueful renunciation of the earlier romanticism. This learning curve isn't a joyful one. In fact, both novels leave the reader with a kind of existential feeling: surface gloss is stripped but idealism also sacrificed. Both novels have layers of meaning; beneath the literal plot and "look of" the universe they depict, there's deeper, more frightening worlds, the first World War, for instance.

It's of some importance then, that in the case of Cheri's casting, that surface world be faithfully replicated. Its surface is European in essence, French especially. Michelle Pfeiffer is too redolant, in her physicality, of AMERICAN cinema circa 1980. But who then? Zsa Zsa Gabor, but with gravitas and acting chops? Who NOW? Someone with curves for sure.

The plump, roseate world--literally and metaphorically--hollows out, dims horribly--until thre's a vision of moral and mortal decay at the end. For this journey to a "world-weary" wisdom or empty-hearted resignation to be realized, the physical corrolaries have to start out absolutely luminous and plump-cheeked in the beginning. Suggestions?

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Ideal casting for Lea: the Danielle Darrieux in the 1960's. Michael Pitt for Cheri; Helen Mirren for his mother??
I have tried and tried to come up with someone for Lea in the current film and can't think of anyone who is right. Pfeiffer is good but too American and ultimately miscast, IMO.

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I 100% agree about Michael Pitt and Helen Mirren. He's an amazing actor, and even though i don't find him particularly that handsome he's got something very sexy and addictive about his looks and personality. Michelle Pfeiffer is pretty, but I just don't believe her as this character... it's just not for her. I don't know who should have taken her place though... Emmanuelle Béart maybe...?


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I agree completely with the OP and velli10501's exquisite summation. I can't think of anyone who would have been more perfect than Jude Law (ten years ago) as already suggested... or perhaps Jonathan Rhys Meyers. Today, I think Cillian Murphy or Emile Hirsch could pull it off nicely, with Monica Bellucci as Lea.

I guess we should be grateful -- they could have cast Angelina Jolie and one of the Jonas Brothers. And five years from now, Hollywood will probably remake it anyway with Jessica Alba as Lea and Kate Hudson's son as Chéri.

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I think Cillian Murphy would have been great as Chéri. I didn't like Rupert Friend's version; he wasn't sexually attractive at all--he actually looked quite mean most of the time.




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Hysterical comment CraigWedrenRocks! Hollywood casting is always so superficial esp. with subtle European culture. Your Jessica Alba as Lea had me in hysterics. Yes! I'm seeing Pamela Anderson and her large pair as Lea and the boy-toy Zak Effron as Fred as the epitome of typical Hollywood ludicrous casting.

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LOLOL! Angelina Jolie and the Jonas Bros!

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You're right, it's Stephen Frears' Cheri.

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that. was. awesome!

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Exactly -- this is Frears' and Hampton's Cheri, not Colette's. If it was Colette's Cheri then the director and screenwriter would have had the guts to have Kathy Bates play the role of Lea, in her 50s and decidedly "round," as the author intended (in order to make a point beyond that of age difference and social situation).

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Is Jude Law past the point that he would be a wonderful Cheri? sigh...........

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Probably, but Jude Law 10 years ago would have been perfect (based on what people have been saying here about the character of Cheri).

I haven't read the book, and the source material is very important to me. The trailer made the movie look like a sex romp, which is fine, but the book sounds much more complicated than that.

I might see this anyway anyway.


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Before reading your post, I had already thought of Tom Sturridge! It's crazy to cast K. Bates as the old courtesan mother of Cheri -- good actress but does not have the kind of old sex-appeal, beauty and delicacy the part requires. And Pfeiffer I also think is too soft for Lea. The old French Cheri from the late 40's was wonderful. Do you know how to get it?

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Yes I do agree with the casting... Rupert is too ugly? Do you have eyes?

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Oh yes he is ugly, just saw the movie and I have to say Michelle won me over, she's brilliant and although Rupert Friend was good, I just couldn't get over the fact that someone so unattractive was chosen as Cheri that is suppose to be so beautiful, I kept thinking what would Lea see in someone like him.

Overall the movie was nice, it's not a masterpiece, but do not understand why is being so badly reviewed.

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I thought Rupert was rather beautiful, but I suppose everyone has different ideas of attractiveness so no-one chosen would be everyone's tasse de thé. On the other hand, I didn't like Michelle as Lea at all: she seemed a bit frigid for the role.

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You should watch Friend in The Young Victoria, very handsome.



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