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We wish they'd leave out the rated-R content......


.... in almost ALL movies. The rated-R gunge usually isn't worthwhile, limits the shows audience, and does no good long term.

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what's 'gunge'?

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"Gunge as it is known in the British Isles, or slime as it is known in America and most English-speaking areas of the world, is a thick, gooey, yet runny substance with a consistency somewhere between paint and custard." - Wikipedia. Not sure why gunge would be rated "R."

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Gunge doesn't have to be slime, grunge can be any dirt or dust that leaves something unclean.

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

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Isn't grunge a music genre?

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Not sure why gunge would be rated "R."

It's as if someone says 'the r-rated crap is not worth to be shown'.

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Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!

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The word "gunge" is vague in this context and therefore a poor choice of words.

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It's just some language.

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and some sexual innuendo. According to IMDB, there's one scene where a young woman is going down on a young man, however it's just mobility, nothing much seen. I think that gives folks ideas. The rest is men being men and talking about their sexual exploits.

I'm a young person born & raised in a typical low to middle class neighborhood, so I just shrug this stuff off but heard in the 50s that stuff wouldn't be very common at all even in a movie as well as cursing. Some people just are raised with stricter moral values especially years ago in comparison to what we young people get exposed these days.

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"Some people just are raised with stricter moral values especially years ago in comparison to what we young people get exposed these days."

That's funny, I find the exact opposite to be true...

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Exactly! It's the "millenials" that get offended by every-bloody-thing. "Oh, too many harsh words". "Oh, they didn't show [X] character moral dilemma".
To all politically correct wimps: get a life.

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tub51461 did not say all people, tub51461 said some people. The definition of "some" is that the opposite also exists.

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The rating system is worthless. This clutching at pearls by the expression of the film-makers is stupid. If the content offends, stay away...it's not for you.

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Oh please, grow up! How old are you? Either very young or a not yet grown up very old person? I assume you are referring primarily to language? People say *beep* quite a lot. Get over it. I will usually refuse to see a movie in which the "language" has been edited out or bleeped over. It is inauthentic when treated that way. I do agree that when profanity is gratuitous it can be offensive, but that is not the way it usually happens. A movie's language usually reflects how those particular characters speak in those particular situations. If you are so precious that you can't take it, then stay home and watch the Disney Channel and the PTL Club and let the grownups enjoy their realistic movies. And if you are referring to sex, get over that too. It happens. As long as there is a warning that content may not be appropriate for young people and children (or for adults who live in lalaland), then there is no reason why adults should not see movies with "adult" content. Sex is a part of life, and not all of it is in the missionary position. Again, as long as it is integral to the plot and not gratuitous, there is no valid reason to object beyond your own narrow personal prejudices. If it offends or frightens you, watch something else. Your being a prude does not necessitate the rest of us watching watered down, unrealistic movies. I'll give you an example: What would Pulp Fiction, a truly original and brilliant movie, be if you were the censor? But then I'll bet you've never seen that movie and would be bleating about Satan if you had. BTW, I am 66. I did not allow my brain to calcify as I grew older and I still prefer my movies to be real, not as edited by Santorum or Huckabee.


Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

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You are disgusting in your diatribe of profanity and rotten to the core morality. Where is your decency? Where is your moral compass heading, if not south. I like a good movie and it doesn't have to include gutter language and profanity. If you like and use that, try other places and don't stick me with your nasty language. Prude? I'd say the name sticks and describes people like you pretty good as you can't seem to get over having a good movie without using dirt, mud and grime in the script.
Truth? you can't stand the truth.


Quality means more to me.

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"If you are so precious that you can't take it, then stay home and watch the Disney Channel" ... ha ha brilliant. Thank you for your good sense

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Nope, I once heard both damn and hell on the Disney Channel. 'Oh Lordy no!', I exclaimed, it truly was the worst thing to ever happen to any one of god's chosen predominately white and christian flock, like ever, like way worse then wars even. I'm being super serial right now guys, stop laughing at me, my virgin ears were completely unprepared, and to think my mother paid for such content, perhaps she was in cahoots with Satan after all! Come to think of it; it was a woman who came to my house to install the cable, thats right a woman! Never trust them, so says the good book. Now surely these two moralists would be instantly offended by such words and would need to alert the rest of us because we should care about issues like this right? I know its getting tired, but we really needed your help on this one Obama, if that is your real name...


True comedy only comes from god's loving hole, as does rain, he's like a shiny bird, he does both outta the same hole, and we never use the word asssssk me no more questions and I'll tell you no more lies...is what this reminds me of, children, in other words, being told that words are somehow bad when they should be told about context and meaning. Then those kids get larger yet somehow other people, even dead people, are thinking for them and they are okay with that.



"This is What You Want... This is What You Get"

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Nonsense. Real beauty has class. Foul language doesn't. It just has shock value for the inarticulate.

That's why George Carlin, who studied these things in his 7 dirty words routine, advocated only sparing use of "strong words" for maximum effect (a rule which he himself didn't follow in his later, angrier work, cursing too much to little effect but making himself look like a bitter man who has failed at life despite all his outward symbols of "success"). When you use it all the time, it has no effect, just ZERO class.

"Class" or systematic and conscious control of one's dignity as a human being, comes out of strength of character and temperance, not compromise and weakness and neurosis "glorified" as some completely fraudulent "things as they are in real life." For a real artist (such as Michael Powell or Federico Fellini), "naturalism" and "romanticism" are not eternal enemies but partners in the grand adventure which can have a win-win interaction with each other. One is not "real art" and the other "phony." Both are "real" if handled by the sensitive touch of the true artist.

Things are NEVER set-in-stone in "real life" and change is constant. Things can be a hundred times better in "real life" and in "the real life of artifice" both, plus their points of cross-over and mutual synergetic symbiosis, with just a little "class," discretion and temperance (rather than repression and its latest and most disgraceful "politically correct" communist manifestation: "hate speech laws" and thought crimes legislation). A great work of art SUGGESTS foul language or frustrated anger and its outward, weak and immature emotional outbursts 9 times for every one time that it shows it in guttural and completely naked form.

Having foul language and gratuitous sex and violence in a so-called attempted work-of-art and "dirt for the sake of dirt," just because "it's there" and people say it and do it in "every day life," (whatever that is, lol) means no more than showing somebody taking a dump on the toilet or a leak in the street and woods or masturbating in EVERY last friggin movie. It's completely unnecessary 90% of the time, a cheap way of getting a very momentary reaction that fades away into disgust soon enough. It's almost like asking people to meditate on the toilet for the period of exposure to the "work" that, if worthy of being called "good," is, after all, supposed to expand the metaphors of their various languages and map new areas of the spirit previously not easy to navigate.

Most R-rated movies are R-rated exactly for what the original poster described, albeit in not the best chosen words: short term shock value to add "dirt spice" to a weak script and material that cannot earn its reactions honestly and through true artistic merit.

Pascal used to say that the greatness of man is so obvious that it can be deduced even through his wretchedness.

Therefore, all real art capable of teaching human beings "deep lessons" shows evil-in-the-prettiest-flower and pretty-flowers-in-the-ugliest-evil simultaneously, as Baudelaire would say, but in a way that is more often suggestion than a bang over the head, more eroticism than pornography, that even in bangs-over-the-head and pornography finds the most graceful notes that lift them into a more dignified realm, and therefore honors the multi-faceted dignity of man, however fallen and "wretched" temporarily, while insisting that only balance and temperance achieved through a c-lever (conceptually leveraging) artistic process, the process of all language and communication expansion through metaphors already present when the first word comes out of a baby's mouth, can achieve the transcendent but fully "real" state, worthy of being called "the hue-man mode" (hue-man, having many hues) of existence or relating to "reality."

Needless to add, this mode of real artistry and consequent satisfactory and ever-progressing-&-enlightening relation to life, is often hidden by the far more common, idiotic and artless consensus deliberately socially engineered in the masses by the owners of the mass-media itself and organs of propaganda, of which the cinema is only one, because it creates profits through advantage, i.e., "useful idiocy."

"That immense framework and planking of concepts to which the needy man clings his whole life long in order to preserve himself is nothing but a scaffolding and toy for the most audacious feats of the liberated intellect. And when it smashes this framework to pieces, throws it into confusion, and puts it back together in an ironic fashion, pairing the most alien things and separating the closest, it is demonstrating that it has no need of these makeshifts of indigence and that it will now be guided by intuitions rather than by concepts. There is no regular path which leads from these intuitions into the land of ghostly schemata, the land of abstractions. There exists no word for these intuitions; when man sees them he grows dumb, or else he speaks only in forbidden metaphors and in unheard-of combinations of concepts. He does this so that by shattering and mocking the old conceptual barriers he may at least correspond creatively to the impression of the powerful present intuition." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche, "On Truth & Lie In An Extra-Moral Sense" (1873)

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Nietzsche/Truth_and_Lie_in_an_Extra-Moral_Sense.htm

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Ironically, the only immature post in this thread is yours. You claim to be 66 years old, but decided to basically throw a temper tantrum in your response to the OP. What's it to you?

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The only immature post? The op set the standard of immaturity. IF an adult can't appreciate a film because of "naughty" words I'd call that the height of immaturity.

Touch darkness and darkness touches you back.

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Editing is a wonderful thing. If the studio wanted, they could probably release G, PG, PG-13, and R rated versions of about 80% of the films produced. Throw in a few naughty words and maybe some talk about sex and there's a chance that teenagers are going to want to see a film in which most of the characters are older than their grandparents.

It's a form of censorship, actually. When I was in college George Carlin got rich with a comedy routine about the seven words you can't say on television; today those words and variations on them are almost inescapable.

And it's a funny thing. I worked part-time at a Blockbuster for a long time. People would ask me for recommendations for films based on one thing or another, but not a single person ever asked for a movie where people used four letter words. So much for the idea that audiences "demand" it.

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Couldn't agree more.

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Stupidity and prudery forced on other people offend me. I suppose only young people are permitted to rant?

Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

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You're projecting now. No one was talking about forcing anything on someone else, they were just expressing an opinion. An opinion with which you're free to disagree. The immaturity reveals itself when you can't do it respectfully.

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BOOM! 🎤 drop that and walk away

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No kidding! I saw the summary and the rating, and I thought exactly the same thing.

If you're doing an action movie, by all means, give us Robocop (1987), give us Dredd, give us Commando, etc, etc. Have a *good* reason for the rating.

But for this? What a waste! I've seen several other R-rated films that earned their ratings for a mere 4-5 F-words. What is the point? I suspect that a number of people that like this type of film think that 'R-Rated' means "sophisticated." How childish...

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No, we don't think it's "sophisticated," we think it's "real" and "authentic."

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At the very least it may reduce the number of noisy whiny children in the audience.

But then again, there are parents that take their kids to R-rated films and then throw a fit because their kid was exposed to an f-bomb or three.

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I think the problem is the rating system. Dropping the f-bomb a few times shouldn't result in an R-rating.

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I agree with OP. There are some of us who go to movies for a good story and it is uncomfortably distracting when they take the story and unnecessarily insert a graphic sex scene just so it will get an R rating. I don't mind swearing, but it is embarrassing when you go to the movies and you are sitting with a crowd of strangers and suddenly bouncing boobs are being rubbed all over the screen. Swear all you want, but sex is unnecessary imho.

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I agree with OP.

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ROTFF @ your response being the same exact post. I guess that makes me disgusting too... or worse... one who encourages disgusting, immature behavior. When one is immature there is sooooo much more material available to laugh at, you all need to spread your wings; quit limiting yourselves.


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