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This movie is A LOT BETTER than 'Midnight in Paris'


dont' you think??

loved this movie....
i think "midnight" is highly overrated...

regards!

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Midnight in Paris may be a bit overrated but I enjoyed the literary references and I have a thing for Paris.

"Whatever Works" however, had me rolling my eyes throughout.

I saw it as a jack off fantasy of Woody's. A 60+ year old man meeting a lost young hot blonde. Their romantic relationship could be seen from the first moment they met. I was annoyed by Larry David's character the majority of the time he was on screen. Like Woody but minus the nervous, self hating qualities.
Even though Woody actually DID marry a 17 year old. This would be like me writing a movie where I meet 4 hot women and move in with them while I stay cocky and self assured.
I have had someone say "Well, he did the same thing in "Manhattan"." Although in Manhattan, I was more invested in what happened to Isaac.
To be fair though, there was some great dialogue that had me chuckle.

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Not a lot, but yes a little better. Midnight in Paris is a bit overrrated and this one is quite underrated.

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I saw both films in their entirety and though I routinely give Woody Allen a passing grade, Midnight in Paris is the better of the two.

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Midnight in Paris is the far stronger film. It's a much warmer, fascinating, and wittier film.

Whatever Works honestly bugged me. It's one of the lesser films in Allen's career and truly the only thing that "works" in the film is Evan Rachel Wood who is infectiously entertaining despite her "adorable idiot" character. Now, I'm very liberal thinking in my way of life but truly one of the things that was annoying about "Whatever Works" is the motto of "Do what makes you happy, whatever works!" only seems to apply to people who share the same artistic urban lifestyle & mindset as Allen does.

The Southern characters were all country bumpkins, secretly unhappy with their "close-minded, homophobic, racist Southern existence" until they "woke up" in Manhattan and embraced the (supposed) free-thinking, artistic, bisexual/homosexual, Democratic existence there that it became happy.

I know Allen really tells films from just his outlook but it was hard for me to embrace the film when what the film proposes is it's message is so opposite of what it's really expressing. Maybe if one of the Southern characters had actually been a happy individual who really loved their simple existence "back home" the film would have been easier to swallow but it didn't.

The film basically says "Whatever Works... as long as you live in Manhattan and don't have a Conservative outlook on life... otherwise you're just an unhappy moron". I'm not a Conservative but I'm not an idiot either so it was hard to really embrace the film once that thought hit me.

Regardless, I enjoyed the film in the end. I love Allen movies because they're real movies with heart (unlike a lot of his indie imitators who feel that wealthy white people sleeping around in NYC is all you need to tell a story) and it's always a treat to see a movie every year that puts the story above any gimmicks. I'm a Woody Allen fan at heart - seen all his films more than than once, even "Anything Else" his worst film by a large margin - but "Midnight In Paris" is the far superior film to "Whatever Works".

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Is that really what you took away from the film? Yes, it supports the liberal life style, as Woody Allen movies have always done. But your take on it seems very literal to me.

New York just happens to be the place where they all "find" themselves. And of course, it is well known that Woody Allen is a complete New Yorkaphile that adores the city, so...

Critically, I would put Whatever Works and Midnight in Paris on the same level. But as for enjoyment, I truly loved Whatever Works. I loved the cynical outlook and quips, I loved the transformation of the characters. It was rather over-the-top to be sure, but that just made me laugh more.

I am too a Woody Allen fan, love most of his movies and agree that Anything Else was his worst. Except for one line: "I'm so depressed I've thought about killing myself, but I don't think even suicide will help". Thought it was quite amusing.

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Agreed, I didn't really like Midnight in Paris

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i wouldn'd say a lot better, but it's as good as "Midnight in Paris"

to me, this one and "midnight in paris" are his best movies from his recent work. woody allen makes better movies with one central story. like "rome with love" has good elements, but it got lost in so many stories.

i'm kind of "purist" from the old woody allen's days. i think he does a lot better with his semi-biography characters and not so many parallel plots.

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Yep, definitely better. Though I liked Midnight in Paris too.

"The Love you take is equal to the Love you make" The Beatles.

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It makes no sense to compare two movies which are not exactly the same script. Each movie is a universe which brings a whole new set of situations into play. All of Woody Allen's oeuvre is wonderful, NO OTHER modern movie maker has such astounding range and talent. Each movie is another aspect of humanity. How many director/writer's can even claim this?

Enrique Sanchez

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Mr Stiffy doesn't really have any "range" whatsoever - all his moviefillums pop out form the same place and splash to the ground in approximately the same area. All he can think of to write/film is increasingly smug, faux-deep relationship dramas amongst the rich, ostensibly culturally oh-so-sophisticated bourgeois pricks who keep, to the beat of some 1930's horn-propelled show tune, morbidly moaning about the meaninglessness of the Universe, crack mostly lame jokes that always sound as if they were a part of some well forgotten old stand-up routine and ceaselessly blather on about their feelings and/or pretentiously gush over some artwork. No director I know of has boxed himself in quite like Stiffy; dude has no room at all anymo'. Looks like he don't actually want any, either.


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No, Midnight in Paris is a LOT BETTER than 'Whatever Works' .......

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Paris is my favorite Allen film but I liked Whatever Works.

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I also liked Midnight in Paris much better. Whatever Works was a forum for Woody Allen to preach his politics, and other views on just about everything. I wasn't interested in that at all!!!

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