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A surprisingly fair-minded portrait


This is a film that's been on my list of movies to watch for a while, but it took me until last night to finally get around to it. I had no idea what to expect, but I was surprised to see that it was a relatively sympathetic portrait of GWB.

Knowing Oliver Stone's left-leaning sentiments, I thought there was a good chance that he would take the opportunity to crucify the ex-President, but he doesn't really do that. Instead, he portrays him more as a well-meaning man who was in over his head.

Having finally seen it, I would recommend the film and think it didn't really get the critical acclaim or financial return that it deserved.

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I loved the movie, but sadly it did play into my biased impression of W and his administration.
Had it not been for the 9/11 catastrophe, I doubt he would have earned a second term, giving Dick Cheney eight years to carry out his diabolical plan to militarize the US economy and police the world. When I hear people say 9/11 was an inside job, I just shrug and think - you could be right.
My favorite description of W was "a smirking chimp." But I'm glad he gave a good speech at McCain's funeral. As a president, I hated him, but as an ex-president, I don't want to carry around a lot of hate.
One more thing -- Man, if I had a chance to seduce Elizabeth Banks at a pleasant barbecue, I'd be one happy guy. She's gorgeous, and comes off as pretty funny in the right roles.

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A lot of people like to paint GWB as unintelligent, but I've never thought that was the case. He is perhaps not an intellectual titan, but you don't rise to the highest office in the land if you're literally an idiot.

Besides, I've seen a lot of interviews with him post-presidency and he comes across as not only an intelligent person, but also quite charming.

I felt that Stone's portrait, as I said in the OP, was largely that of a man who was a decent human being--sincerely spiritual, had genuine love for his family, genuinely cared about the country--but who was in over his head and who, perhaps, was being played and manipulated a bit by the people within his own administration.

If you want to see a recent clip of him, check out this clip from his interview with Ellen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKeFXs8a0Xk

There's a lot of other recent stuff out there as well. And it seems to me that public sentiment on GWB has evolved a lot. I think a lot of people are deciding that they didn't like him as a President, but they like him as a man.

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It's unfortunate that if we give him a pass for his term as President because of a certain personal, humble charm, we ignore all the negative circumstances that came about on his watch. I'm not the deepest and most thorough political observer, but I feel he and the Republican party are setting the US people up for ever-widening income disparity and 1%-ism. They drag the NRA types and evangelicals and white nationals into the mix, and life keeps getting worse.
And we pat W. on the head for seeming like a really nice guy. Dick Cheney should be publicly splattered with rotten fruit and vegetables. He sure won't get a send off like McCain, and neither will W.

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I'm not too familiar with GWB's economic policies, but one thing I noticed about W. (the film) is that Stone portrayed Bush as a man who really thought that the intelligence would prove to be correct and WMDs would be found in Iraq.

For me, intentions mean a lot. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't hold people accountable, but I'm a lot more willing to think positively about Bush if he really believed Iraq had WMDs than I would be if I knew that he didn't believe that and intentionally lied to the American public.

Of course you may say, "Well W. is just a movie!"

That's correct, but it seems Stone did a lot of research for this one and tried to stay pretty close to the facts as he understood them. There's a 108-page PDF file on the DVD that includes backstory on a lot of the scenes and that includes the sources that he used for those scenes. That's actually pretty impressive. I wish more studios/directors would do something like that for historical films, especially controversial ones.

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I thought Josh Brolin did a good job of playing Bush. He wasn't the brightest kid on the block, but he had a lot of advisers plus his dad. It seemed like he was always trying to get his dad's approval. Probably a good thing.

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Well it does humanize him,but when it has to strike...it strikes strongly!

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I believe he was genuinely kind person. He just WAY over his head. The U.S did need to go to war but he manged it poorly and it should have never been as long as it was. The iraq war should have been a few years.

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