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Wtf,Where was the outbreak?

posted 15 years ago by Island_Of_Ireland
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we get a scene in the aiport, zombies appearing out of nowhere, people panicking etc. So i figured "ok the outbreak is on, the city goes into turmoil, let the movie begin"

but they shut down the airport,just like that (how did they contain the infection? it would have been impossible with all those zombies running around biting people, and did you notice the airport zombies just dissappeared after the plane crash?)

and another thing, how did the infection spread in the first place?I kno the guy on the plane was infected, but the guy in the airport who was a zombie, how did he get infected? what about the other zombies that started appearing out of nowhere afterwards?

and how come there were only infected people/zombies IN THE AIRPORT?! you're telling me that no-one out of the hundreds of people in the airport got bitten then escaped?That all infected people decided to go to the aiport that day before changing into a zombie? or none of the zombies wandered off the property and started biting people outside? As we resident evil/zombie fans know, its almost impossible to contain an infection without it getting out of control fast, especially at the rate those people were getting bitten!

Having said that, Ill get to my point, the film started well, and as I said I thought it was going to continue at the frantic pace it started off....but no...after 30 minuits in the aiport everything goes back to normal and we're left listening to some SWAT girls life story about her broter who we dont care about..leon(now japanese for some reason) talking in a sanctimonious monotone for the whole film, more talking, introduce a few more characters we dont care about...more talking..then the climax which consists of over-the-top matrix style action scenes,a few zombies getting shot, and a battle with a tyrant.

There are NO (count em) NO scary moments in this film...no outbreak, no hordes of zombies (except at the start), no cerberi,crows,crimson heads, lickers,hunters, creepy moments, tense moments, *beep* moments.

Take out the start and you're left with a drawn-out talk-a-thon for a middle, and an over-the-top action scene with a tyrant no-one cares about at the end...great horror movie this..

Oh and wtf is with Leon getting a hayemaker by the super-tyrant, getting knocked about 50 feet back, then jumping up without a scratch and doing a 20 mile obstacle course in 10 seconds, somersaults and all? Hes not superman. remember resident evil 2 where he was a rooie cop who could barely run at full speed lol.

[–] darknation101 15 years ago

So true.

Though, you will probably get attacked by rabid "true" fans of the series..or so they claim to be.

[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

could care less, i have just about every resident evil game to come into existence (yup, even gaiden)and have played them all to death,what makes them bigger fans than me? or you? and i wont accept a half-assed cartoon/action film as true cannon, because i respect the resident evil brand too much to do so, a "true fan" would agree

[–] darknation101 15 years ago

Their logic is that if you don't like this movie, you're not a true fan. Stupid, I know.

[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

Well my logic is if your a true fan, you shouldnt like this movie.

no scratch that, enjoy it if you want, but dont accept this as official canon. A true fan wouldnt, so these people are simply oxy-morons in every sense of the word.

I am as true a fan as you can get, if any of these people would like to challenge me on my knowledge or passion of the Resident Evil series, give them my number ;).
then we'll see who the true fans are.

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

idiot little opinion? sorry who the *beep* are you? certainly no resident evil fan lol.

The resident evil story that i loved so much has been officially ruined. i take it you are the people who complained about RE4 because there were no zombies in it....bit like this film then, but at least RE4 is widely recognised as being one of the best games of recent time, hell, ALL time. But this piece of *beep* nobody will remember it in 2 months time.

I Didnt know the pinnacle of survival horror movies based on my favourite franchise of all time amounted to 15 minuits of zombies and an hour of talking. Resident evil is back baby!.... yeah right, if you think this film represents what resident evil is supposed to be then son, you are NO resident evil fan.

I am a die hard fan of the old Romero films (you know those films that the resident evil games were MODELLED ON?) and those were zombie films. In fact they are the most famous zombie films of all time, and thats because they were f^cking good, unlike this. this aint no horror film, and this aint resident evil...

id go so far as to say the Day of the Dead remake was better than this, at least it had zombies in it...

And let me tell you something else kid, you know why im a better, bigger fan than you? Because I wont accept any old *beep* that Capcom churns out to us just because its licensed, if its bad, if its not up to resident evil standard, then ill call them on it. But you? slap a tyrant, a few references to raccoon city and Claire and Leon and apparently we've got a "true" resident evil film....

You forgot a few things...No isolated setting...no creepy atmosphere..No hunters(any version)/cerberi/lickers/giant spiders/ crimson heads/birds/T-103s(thats mr x to you)/Poison Ivys/Drain Deimos/Brain Suckers/Grave Digger-Gulp Worm and just 15 minuits of zombies...No interesting characters (Leon swapped his personality for invincibility boots apparently)..claire takes a backseat to some boring girl we dont know..the bad guy looks rediculous...and the crappy looking Tyrant defied the laws of science...this is resident evil huh? If i had never played the games before this bore-fest certainly wouldnt encourage me to do so.

I had ten times more excitement and suspense playing gaiden ffs, at least that felt a little like resident evil.

In resident evil, you are supposed to have resident evil creatures, B.O.Ws, you know those monsters that are in every game? well where were they? where did the zombies disappear to and why did they rubbish every unwritten rule that we have learned in the resident evil Universe ,for one, if a viral outbreak happened in that manner, it would have been impossible to contain, that should have been Raccoon City 2, and that would have made the film a whole lot better, remember the flashback? well that should have been what the film was all about.

Instead of seeing Leon and Claire running and fighting for their lives in a city crawling with the monsters we have grown to love, we see them TALK about it.

The Airport scene SHOULD have set the trend for the rest of the film...the ENTIRE film should have been like the airport...pure panick, tension, and crawling with zombies and MONSTERS (Resident evil goes hand in hand with MONSTERS and SURVIVAL HORROR, none of which are in this film.)

And on the Airport scene...Where did the first zombie come from? where did the dozen other zombies appear from just a few seconds later? where did the 50 or 60 zombies running around the terminal attacking people disappear to after the plane crashed? did you notice that "resident evil fan" ? as soon as the plane crashed every zombie in the terminal disappeared only to be replaced by the ones on the plane...Very convenient that the plane filled with zombies happened to crash in the one place in the city where there is already an infection... I'm not even complaining about the RE aspect of the film now, just the terrible continuity and the way they treated us like morons.

This film is what is classified as a "Thriller"it is certainly no horror film. and it is certainly no 10/10 Resident Evil film.

So what have you got to say about that? you're the true fan after all so i must just be making it up as i go along. school me on what resident evil is supposed to be then.

forgive me for expecting Resident EVIL(Evil being the key word..) not Resident Conversation

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

"BZZZZZZZZT WRONG MORON, Re 4 is my favorite game in the series with Re 2 a close second. Coincidentally this is also where I stopped reading because your post was way too fing long. "

in other words you have neither any points of your own, or any counter-points to my argument.

favourite game in the series? then you truly dont know resident evil, its an elite game no question, but is it more resident evil than any of the rest? hell no. REmake beats it by a country mile. if we had a REmake in film then that woud be something.

and in that case, "TRUE fans" are the ones who will not accept RE 4 because it has no resident evil elements in it. so imagine how stupid you morons look by denouncing everyone who hates this film, you are just like the ones who hated RE4 and tagged anyone who liked it as "not a true fan"

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[–] AgentX7k 15 years ago

I thought it was ok, I probably wouldn't watch it again but I liked the fact it was actually official, unlike the movies so the story had at least some relevance to paving the way for RE5.

"Doesn't mean I say penis when I mean to say penis! I mean penis! Car! Penis! Car!"

[–] Ruthless_Xero 15 years ago

IrelandRaven, please, for everybody's sake, pull your head out of your goddamn ass.

"I will be the last... and you will go first" - Sarevok

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[–] Dark_dazeys 14 years ago

Couldn't** care less is the saying. Just pointing that out. Carry on.

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

"We do get a BOW, G-Curtis. I always liked the G-virus so I enjoyed that."

One *beep* looking B.O.W for 10 minutes? I meant actual B.O.Ws, Bio Organic Weapons manufactured to kill. Not some weirdo injecting himself and turning into a giant tumor.
It was a crap Tyrant aswell

"I always felt that Resident Evil/Biohazard was just as much James Cameron sci-fi action epic I.e Aliens/Terminator as George Romero zombie flick i.e Day of the Dead. This is very true with for RE2 and this movie has that in spades"

In no way is resident evil supposed to be Sci-Fi epic, it is SURVIVAL HORROR, as in, monsters reak loose, people get killed, and it all takes place in a VERY spooky setting. Ido not associate resident evil and alien etc. even though i like both, they are for completely different reasons.

"We do get a BOW, G-Curtis. I always liked the G-virus so I enjoyed that. The thing you have remember about Raccoon city is that it took a few weeks after the initial outbreak caused by Birkin before the whole city was overrun with Zombies. All the outbreaks in the series have been isolated and contained aside from Raccoon City."

wrong, Sheena Island? and what is this government precaution? to seal the building? Remember when everything went tits up in Raccoon city, zombies started appearing out of nowhere and riots broke out after a few weeks of people dissapearing and getting murdered. Now considering that we get at least 100 zombies popping out of nowehre causing chaos in the terminal(and spreading the infection at an IN-CONTAINABLE RATE), its safe to assume that a city wide infection must be taking place...

Degeneration isn't really a horror movie. It's not meant to be. It's an action thriller. And a pretty good one too IMO. I would say it's more of a true "biohazard" film rather then "Resident Evil". "

Like I said "SUVIVAL HORROR" its supposed to be horror by definition, the fact that ayou class this Resident EVIL film as an action-thriller(and i would to) shows how much of a failing it is

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[–] ryan-r 15 years ago

i've had a good laugh reading your posts IrelandRaven. I have a mental image of an ugly nerd who is at the verge of tears whilst typing his posts.

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[–] Sausage_Demon 15 years ago

As a True fan I disregard all the games, books and movies after Code Veronica, because they are all *beep*
They all butcher the story, which goes to show Capcom have no idea how to develop a strong franchise with a strong continuous narrative. I think they got lucky and had a moment of clarity with the early RE games which has since ended.

Also, ignore Catullus, he is probably part of Capcoms damage mitigation team trying to convince people they actually know what they are doing and that this film and RE4 is great....

[–] Saint_jwf 15 years ago

How many Resident Evil games took place in spooky settings? Most I can think of take place in a standard midwestern city. The games that take place in the spookiest settings are Resident Evil 1 and...you guessed it, Resident Evil 4. So by your definition, Resident Evil 4 is more "Resident Evil" than parts 2,3, Survivors, Outbreaks, etc. Let's check shall we? Spooky location? Small backwards European village, medieval castle? Check. B.O.Ws? Verdugo, Regenerators, Del Lago, Gigante, Mendes, Salazar, and Osmund? Check.

So what was missing from 4 that makes most haters tear it apart and idolize 1? It lacked terrible camera angles, thus eliminating the so called "Jump" scares that got REAL old REAL fast. Controls were slightly improved, voice acting improved. And the out of place, nonsensical puzzles were removed. The only legitimate concern you could have would be that ammo is no longer so scarce that you can't afford to kill more than half the zombies in the beginning if you want to make sure you've got something left to use towards the end.

So your primary definition of Resident Evil style survival horror is you'd better not be able to see what's coming at you, but if you'd can do THAT you'd better not be able to avoid it easily with controls, but if you can do THAT you'd better not have enough ammo to kill it.

As a fan of the entire series, it hurts to point these things out, but after giving RE4 a fair shake and really enjoying it, it's hard to go back to the old ones, as good as they are.

[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

a spanish village is not creepy..end of

[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

think again mate ;)

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 15 years ago

G-Curtis? listen to the name.... just listen to that name.... you cannot spawn a *beep* eye on your shoulder within 10 seconds of injecting the G virus ffs.

there were zombies all over the terminal,appeared from no-where, it takes one bite, one SCRATCH to spread the virus, and about 5 days for someone to die from a small infection..your telling me those zombies didnt bite or scratch the majority of people in the terminal? if a zombie can get close enough to kill a reporter, then it is a BIG outbreak...

Vincent didnt spread the virus over the WHOLE island, he infected a select few individuals, which then resulted in the whole island getting infected,as what SHOULD have happened in this piece of crap.

and now we come to the BIG plot hole...seeing as Tricell in RE5 dont have enough data on the T and G virus to come up with a proper cure, how can the government? these are the guys that traffic viruses over the black market, and FUND the Anti-Bioweapon movement...

how can i talk to you people? there are none so blind...

in Raccoon city, a few rats spread the virus, it took TWO WEEKS for the majority of the city to be infected, and start riots and eventually a state of emergency, so how can tens of zombies be contained in a matter of hours? impossible...

also...you cant PLANT a zombie then have there be hundreds of them running about in a matter of seconds.

[–] Koosh_King01 15 years ago

I think the whole point was that after Raccoon City, the government, authorities, etc. knew how to deal with a potential outbreak. Lock down the airport, keep all the zombies inside, and anyone who escaped during/after the initial zombie attack was quarantined. I think it's pretty obvious from the initial attack that the majority of the people in the main terminal managed to get out unscathed. The plane crash killed more people than the zombies, and also supplied the main bulk of the undead that infested the airport.

After that, and the police and SWAT units locked down the airport and quarantined those who had escaped or were showing symptoms of the virus, all the bad *beep* happened within the airport itself. Anyone still inside after the plane crash/police lockdown was preyed upon by the zombies, being mostly airport employees located on the upper floors (the zombies on the first floor were all either the initial infectees or the ones that came out of the crashed plane).

The airport incident is in many ways a sort of microcosm of Raccoon City. But it was a much smaller, and more sudden outbreak than the Raccoon one. In Raccoon's case the viral spread was gradual (because the virus from the forest "lost its punch") until the failed attempt to steal the G-Virus from Birkin resulted in a sudden outbreak. As Robert Kendo so succinctly put it, "By the time I noticed something was wrong, the entire city was infested with zombies."

Flashforward to Harvardville Airport. Survivor testimony at the trial which brought about the end of Umbrella meant that the T-Virus was more or less common knowledge by this point, or on the brink of becoming so. Certainly the government was aware of it. So when reports flooded in of a minor T-Virus outbreak at the airport, it was a relatively easy job to quarantine the area and contain the infection.

Remember, it was happening live on the news. The news coverage is what allowed the authorities to spring into action as quickly as they did, I think. Even if John Q. Public just believed it was a bunch of lunatic killers, those in the upper echelons knew what it was when they saw it, and they acted accordingly. Thus the Harvardville outbreak was contained before it could get beyond the airport.

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 14 years ago

fair point, he's a G mutant not a Tyrant. But its not the fact that im an RE geek who cant stand change to the series, but the fact that this slapped together scrap book mess is considered canon and a "true return the series" is slightly annoying. but the true insult is people saying i'm "not a true fan" because I dare to say i didn't like it.

the RE world was crying for a return to zombies, so capcom chopped out this crap and people just blindly accepted it?

[–] Ether101 14 years ago

No we weren't crying out for it at all. A bunch of loud mouth buffoons took it upon themselves to voice their opinions as everybody's opinion.

The reason why there was no outbreak was because in RE there needs to be a real reason for there to be one. In RE2&3 it was clear that if Irons hadn't betrayed the police the whole situation would have been different. In C:V the outbreak was cased by an attack on the island and the outbreak in DC was an planed attack.

[–] tripper511 15 years ago

All the plot holes your explaining from the beginning are explained in the end. The guy who was the head of wilpharma used the airport as a set-up to sell his antidote. So as the watcher we are to assume the random zombie and everything else was planted and planned from the beginning.

[–] fireyhope 15 years ago

The movie was pretty much crap in the last half, most people would agree, the never ending redundant and repetitive action scenes were a complete bore.

The live action movie felt much more like a Zombie Movie then this so called True RE movie.

This movie is terribly made.

[–] DeamonpainterICS 15 years ago

I like how the outbreak started at the Airport, then they left to go to Labratory. What about the airport? Um, zombies? Outbreak? People running away in terror?

Did they forget all about that? What happened after they had that quaint moment on the hill at the end?

GTA, motherf-cker!

[–] fontroy5 15 years ago

People it's just a movie, not a religion and compared to the piss poor live actions ones, this shines brightly. Really, IMO it's a great movie which follows the RE style, focusing on more than the zombies but the corruption and politics of it. Because what these fanboys seem to forget is the game delve deeply into the corruption of it all. For instance RE 1 you find out about the first victim of the virus the daughter of the architect of Spencer Mansion. Plus it was great to actually hear the proper voices for the characters. The lengths people are going to complain about a decent movie which actually followed the RE formular is unfathomable.

Oh well, my opinion this was a great movie and hope to see a sequel come pretty soon.

[–] jaywoody 15 years ago

Have to agree with the OP. Waited a long time for this as i have played every RE game released and loved them all.
It wasn't so much the plot holes that spoiled the movie, i didn't really care why nobody escaped and infected the whole city, it was the lack of suspense, action and character of the movie.
Resident Evil 2 was full of character and playing as Leon was a joy because he was vulnerable and made mistakes yet tried his best to do what was right. In this movie he shoots all the zombies like he's in a fairground attraction and like the OP says runs away from the Tyrant like Usain Bolt on speed at the end.
Maybe my expectations were too great and nothing could have lived up to them, but for the first time in my RE experience i felt let down.

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[–] fireyhope 14 years ago

I can't beleive people actually think this movie is so much better then the live action movies. The Live Action movies are by far so much more entertaining. Stupid ass fanboys.

[–] saint_shinobi 14 years ago

True, mate. It was a bore. A very big bore! This should've been better if Claire and Leon were already outside doing an investigation about the attack, and a bunch of innocents trapped inside the airport trying to get out...

[–] fontroy5 13 years ago

Nope they're more about Anderson using his wife and showing her beauty off any chance he got. She appeared nude so many times. Not to mention Alice was made by script writer, she wasn't part of the frachis.

So funny you can even say it's better, considering these facts.