what's the point of this movie ?

I saw this film recently and found it an outstanding character study. By "point," Americans generally mean the "moral" of the story, or some such. This is not that kind of film because, as you know, two people get away with two different kinds of crimes (robbery and adultery -- assuming that adultery could be classified as a kind of crime against marriage), but they do so only by basically having something on each other for the rest of their lives. It's just a wickedly absorbing exercise in irony.

As far as the subtitles go, people who don't like them are just missing out on a huge chunk of quality films.





There, daddy, do I get a gold star?

Actually that is a common misconception.

I have lived in Spain and Italy for almost 5 years. I have traveled to many other countries in europe as well and seen many movies all over. one thing i noticed is that in europe usually foreign films are be shown dubbed rather than with subtitles.
In america foreign films (non english language of course) are almost always shown with subtitles rather than dubbed.

The reason is simple. dubbing drastically changes a movie as you no longer have the full performaces of the actor. it often just seems silly and unwatchable. watching with subtitles keeps the original film delivered by the director in tact. What you could say is that most Americans dont wathc that many foreign films. which may be true. if that is the case its probabaly because america is the home of hollywood and therefore there is a plethora of local films at any given time and thus no need to seek out international films. these local films are big budget block busters and indies. everyone has their own tast but the bottom line is that we dont often need to go the foreign root to find something we are looking for.

I on the other hand understand why it is that, say , italians watch dubbed movies and dont pblame them. the italian film industry is tiny compared to hollywood and even other countries. becuase of this they are forced to watch many foreign films if they are true film buffs because the italian production houses dont put out too much variety. because most of the movies these italian people watch are foreign it makes sense to watch them dubbed. watching a foreign movie with subtitles once in a while is fine, but when most of the mives you watch are subtitles it could be a bit cumbersome. therefore, as the average filmgoer is goin to be entertained, they watch with dubded, its more passive and more easy to be entertained when u dont have to read. no reason to blame them either.

I for one a, a bit of a film buff and therefore watch alot of foreign films. mostly korean, japanese, french, italian and spanish language films. for me its worth putting in the effort to watch a foreign film once in a while when i ma seeking out a great film or a work of art. if i was a casual moviegoer id just watch plain old american english language films.

I think in general in any country most filmgoers are causal. that ebing said, the way you watch movies a s a casual fan will be determined by your nationality. if youre amarican ull watch plain old hollywood flix. if ur say italian, ul watch plain old hollywood flix dubbed and local films in O.V.

to say americans dont watch fims with subtitles cuz they are stupid uncultured or simple is idiotic. there is a huge market for indie films showing foreign films, and a huge amount of illegal foreign film downloads. in fact, given that we produce hundreds so many films in america i think the americans whoare true fans of film do a good out getting out to see alot of films form all over the world. Its easy to take a cheap shot and say americans are philistines especially when u have nothing to back those claims up.

As with all huge and snarky generalizations about a nation of 300 million people, of course you must be exactly right.

If the team that made this movie wanted to make a killing they could do an English language remake with Angelina Jolie or Sandra Bollock as the policeman's wife and perhaps even through in someone like Russel Crowe as the amateur bank robber. They'd also be well advised to add the type of corny Hollywood soundtrack Steven Spielberg and various other makers of Hollywood blockbusters always use. Then they'd be able to pull trillions of US cinema goers.

Americans are all dumb. Europeans are smarter than Americans. Americans are dumb. Did I already say that? Etc.

Yawn.

"lol I came to the thread to say go back to your mindless action movies and hamburgers USAfag, but then I read this, lol, it is true that ppl from the US doesn't like to read with subtitles, they don't want to have to do the effort of reading."


Apparently you don't want to have to put forth the effort to utilize correct grammer, spelling, punctuation or subject-verb agreement.

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I've got better things to do tonight than die!

This movie was the best movie since "Los Bastardos" in terms of it being moral without it trying to show you how to be.
That is its authentic in its consequence.

Speaking as a proud citizen of the USA, one of the most satisfying aspects of this thread is that not a single American wasted their time in arguing with the tired and predictable stereotyping from the America-hating trolls.

Postscript: I'm an electrical engineer from Madison, Wisconsin, USA, and I LOVED the movie. The direction was masterful, and resulted in subtle and nuanced character portrayals which completely immersed me in the story.