Point missed...for many.


For the second time, I just watched House of the Devil. I decided to venture out to the IMDB message boards to see what others thought of the film. Unfortunately, so many who have seen this movie score it down because, in their eyes, the build up took too long and it ended with no payoff. I see things much differently...

The movie I just watched accomplished EXACTLY what the writer/director intended for it to. He was able to match the look, tone and overall feel of an 80's era occult movie. The tension was beautiful, yet necessary. He supplemented modern audience's need for gore, with strong first and second acts - minimalism at its best.

The final act, which is where the majority of complaints are made, is textbook 80's horror. Every shot, the score, and even the last second, perfectly accomplished what so many films of the era were able to.

If you were disappointed by this movie, it's because you either didn't get the intent,or you did and you just don't like a truly good horror flick.

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If you were disappointed by this movie, it's because you either didn't get the intent,or you did and you just don't like a truly good horror flick.


in order for people to take you seriously, i recommend removing this from your post. it voids the rest of your post by its sheer childish pretentiousness.

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Interesting response. I can see that you're obviously a well rounded horror enthusiast. We'll put you in the "...don't truly like a good horror flick" category. Am I right? Yes, completely. How's that for pretentious? ;)

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I absolutely agree with you. The movie looked like an 80s film. The middle act was very tense even though not much was happening. Loved it.

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He's right. You just can't say some sh!t like that and expect to get away with it. Basically what you're saying is, "If you don't like horror the way I like it, then you're not a REAL horror fan."

That's some condescending bullsh!t.

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The dude's wrong, he just gets mad as soon as someone says something that can be taken as pretention, because he's the only guy in the world who's allowed to do that :) but i will say that you didnt really explain anything. You didnt explain why you think its a good ending.
I loved the film and the director obviously mimicked an early 80's film to perfection...hats off to him. And i wasnt bothered by the weird, lame ending, because for me, well, i was watching an early 80's horror flick! Haha I'd downloaded a bunch of horrors for my wife and i didnt read up on them much.

But if i had known, i certainly wouldnt have complained i mean how slow were the first 2 acts?...and how close to an 80's film did it look...its just a brilliant effort, thats all. I wish many more directors did this, i think it was an amazing era of film and we totally went too far now, movies totally suck.


There we were, minding our own business, when kids started killing themselves all over my property.

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I understood the intent and I appreciated it, but it was largely an exercise in style. The story itself needed something more substantial or intriguing by the conclusion. Now what that 'more' is I can't say but doing a compelling and original horror film is a challenge. Still the excellent things about this film were all stylistic while the narrative itself was weak. If it had a more compelling story it could easily be a cult classic.

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House of the Devil is one of my top 20 favorite films of all-time, it's 10/10 brilliant. But Userrrrrr is right, making grandiose statements dismissing any and all negative opinion is a recipe for ridicule, and duly earned.

For what it's worth, I felt the payoff was perfect. I'm not sure what more anyone desired from it, should she have grabbed a machine gun? I guess the one embellishment I could imagine is maybe the appearance of a flesh-and-blood demon, like in Masters of Horror 'Pro-Life.' But that tends to be far more hokey than creepy, and the ending is more haunting if the supernatural elements are left ambiguous.

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I couldn't agree more. Transparency is the key to successful horror atmosphere. Show us as little as possible so we're forced to make up our own minds. The end was brilliant in its subtlety.

Texas Chains Saw Massacre couldn't have survived its 40 year mythos had it not been for Tobe Hooper's use of atmosphere, much the same way Ti West used it for The House of the Devil.

Grandiose or not, I do still feel like viewers who complain about the ending fall into one of the two categories I mentioned in my original post. There may be more options within the fan spectrum for them to live within, but it's so rare for us to get a gem like this in modern horror that I feel I have to pigeonhole them. Haha...maybe that doesn't make it right, but if you're a fan of the genre, you can't complain when something decent and outside of commercial norms is released.

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Your biggest accolade for this film seems to be that it looks and feels like an 80s movie, that the director's intent to simply to mimic something he'd seen from a bygone era makes this successful. Do you not understand how ridiculous that sounds? And to say that the director's INTENT somehow negates a viewer's feelings about a movie is even more ludicrous. Whatever the intent was, if it didn't connect with the audience, then it failed. Simple as that.

That's basically saying the overall substance is less important than how "totally 80s" this was. Gag me with a spoon, indeed.

Also, you and I must have seen different endings. This wasn't subtle in the least. She's pregnant with some sort of demon child. And she manages to survive a self-inflicted gunshot to the head because...Satan, I guess? It's muddled, if anything. But certainly not subtle.

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I totally agree and I'm so sick of people saying "oh well you just don't get it" when it comes to movies they like. I absolutely get it but I don't watch horror movies for aesthetics. I like substance too. I think if you're an 80s movie buff or an artsy indie movie buff you will love the film.

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It's a valid argument. There are no shortage of people who have disliked a movie only to enjoy it the second time around when they get the intent behind it.

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LOL I could not agree more to what you are saying. The guy is an utter pretentious douchebag who delights themselves when they like certain things that most people would disagree. In simpler terms, he/she is the very definition of a hipster.

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That's the target audience of this movie though: hipsters. They're the ones going on and on about how it recreated an old style, and that alone is somehow enough to make a movie good.


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I didn't like it because there wasn't any suspense, the characters were morons, the movie relied on stupidity to get the plot moving.

The atmosphere and cinematography almost saves it.

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No suspense just like there's nothing to do in Minecraft. It's all about what's inside your head. The suspense in HotD almost killed me, especially the vase scene.

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It Follows is a movie that does suspense well.

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This movie was far better than It Follows.

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On opposite day.

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No, every day.

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You writing "If you were disappointed by this movie, it's because you either didn't get the intent,or you did and you just don't like a truly good horror flick." is actually annoying. Because you don't know people's mind, and you are not the definition of "truely" good horror flick.

In the other hand. I enjoy the flick to some extent - only the style what it's trying to go for. I know its a throwback to horrors by for example DePalma... specially Rosemanry's Baby.

Except that this flick, after a whole chunk of time of just her doing things in the apartment herself and actually not even suspecting of anything, dancing around eating pizza. The gore and killing at the end is a little bit too clustered and contemperary like a modern film.

So - why can't they just lock her up until the eclipse? Why did they let her roam free of the house, telling her exactly what pizza to get and for what? Why even tell her that there is a creepy mother upstairs, why cant they just tell her she is house guarding for the night. How is she the chosen one in relationship to her friend getting rid of all the babysitting brochures.

Rosemary's baby actually has different scenareios, and building up to a tame ending thats beautiful.

This film has no "theme" - u were just mesmerized by the style and camera work, which is a good reason to like a film also.

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I saw this film for the first time Halloween night. Saw it on BluRay, purchased after I saw so many great reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (87% positive ratings! Unbelievable for a horror film! Gotta see it!) I got my wife to watch, after I pointed out the great ratings from mainstream reviewers. But, she bailed out as soon as the "son" (or whoever he was)shot the driver/girlfriend in the head. Personally, I liked the film for its eerie atmosphere and slow build-up. But, I agree with Brucehwangchen that that particular killing and the killings at the end were too contemporary in style for this film. The ending did not "deliver" in the manner that the rest of the film promised.

In looking at any film, but particularly horror films, I am of the opinion that the plot points and behaviors of the characters must "hold together". It ruins it for me when the characters do not react like real people would react. This film has all characters acting (mostly) like believable characters -- until the end. Here are my "problem points":

Why did the "son" shoot the driver/friend? Maybe to eliminate a witness. This should have been made a bit clearer in the film. Otherwise, it kind of looks like a gratuitous bloodsplatter shooting.

Why did they go through the elaborate ruse of going out, and needing a sitter for the mother-in-law? Wouldn't the sitter want to meet the old woman? Or, at least, shouldn't she have been curious about what duties she might have to perform? Any emergency numbers? Any medications? Seems a little odd that the director didn't flesh out this "ruse" a little bit better. You could argue that this made the situation all-the-more strange/odd. But, still, this glossing-over gives me pause.

The pizza delivery was apparently pre-planned by the "gang". I assume it contained some sort of drug to knock out the sitter. She threw most of it away. She ate only a few bites. Was this enough to knock her out? Again, this is an aspect of the film that is certainly unclear and begs explanation. Maybe the director cut out scenes?

The "gang" was extremely slow to react to the sitter's breaking away from the ropes/ pentagram. Again, I would have liked to see a more realistic scenario here. The director could have done better. This was, for me, one of the weakest points of the film.

Finally, I have no idea why the sitter would shoot herself in the head instead of shooting Mr. Ullman. That made no sense to me. She had done such a good job of self-preservation up to that point. Attempting suicide here is absolutely not a realistic reaction that a real person would make, in my opinion. So, this plot point is the weakest aspect of the film, by far. And, could she really have survived such a blast to the head? I have my doubts.

What is the background story of the "family" in the big old house? It sure would have been nice to fill in some Why? Who? How? etc. This would add greatly to the rounding out of the story. The mysteriousness of the "family" is good up to a point. But, too much mystery simply makes me think the film's creators didn't spend enough time in developing the concept.

Probably none of these weaknesses by themselves would ruin a horror film for me. But the cumulative effect definitely leads to a downgrading of an otherwise fine film. What could have been a 5 star horror film gets slammed down to a 3 star film in my ratings. Lots of potential here, and I bet the director would do things differently if he had a bit more time and money. (Just a guess on my part.)

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Harvest, your take on the film is point on. I loved the build-up, lack of immediate blood and guts and slashing, and loved, loved, LOVED how more than any other modern film it not only seemed set in the 1980's but shot in the 1980's. Not sure how he did that when so many other big-budget films cannot.

A better "reveal" about the family and their backstory and a more fleshed-out and less rushed ending would have definitely helped. I too found some of the plot holes problematic (why not take her immediately instead of the whole babysitting charade and wait, count on pizza being ordered/delivered, why shoot the friend in the car, etc.). I also found that as a determined survivor she wouldn't just kill herself. She hadn't been thru enough torture or failure to feel the situation was hopeless. She had already escaped and had the upper hand with a gun. Also, she is just going to believe some nutcase who is also a proven liar that she is carrying the "devil's baby" enough to kill herself?? Don't buy that at all and it flies in the face of all we sat thru up to the last 15 minutes.

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brucehwangchen I truly hope you don't think Brian De Palma directed Rosemary's Baby...



Let Polly do the printing

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Ah.
You got me there.
It's Roman Polanski.
Often get foreign names mixed up in my head.

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Finally, I have no idea why the sitter would shoot herself in the head instead of shooting Mr. Ullman. That made no sense to me. She had done such a good job of self-preservation up to that point. Attempting suicide here is absolutely not a realistic reaction that a real person would make, in my opinion. So, this plot point is the weakest aspect of the film, by far. And, could she really have survived such a blast to the head? I have my doubts.

I agree that it's probably more likely that she would have shot him than herself. Maybe she had had enough. Surviving the blast to the head is, I think, a demonstration of how the evil power of the devil can keep her alive long enough to give birth to the child, despite the head trauma.

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Finally, I have no idea why the sitter would shoot herself in the head instead of shooting Mr. Ullman. That made no sense to me. She had done such a good job of self-preservation up to that point. Attempting suicide here is absolutely not a realistic reaction that a real person would make, in my opinion. So, this plot point is the weakest aspect of the film, by far. And, could she really have survived such a blast to the head? I have my doubts.
I agree that it's probably more likely that she would have shot him than herself. Maybe she had had enough. Surviving the blast to the head is, I think, a demonstration of how the evil power of the devil can keep her alive long enough to give birth to the child, despite the head trauma.


The way I saw it, she knew what they'd done to her & that she was carrying Satan's child or whatever, so she was trying to kill herself to stop it from being born.

Fiction is a lie, and good fiction is the truth inside the lie.--Stephen King

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I think the film is good as well. Not necessarily agree with the ending tho.

My review:http://meshthemoviefreak.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/the-house-of-the-dev il-review/

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I don't know what the *beep* you're talking about or if you're West himself but this was an atrocious horror film. Psycho? No blood. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre? No blood. Black Christmas? No blood. Halloween? No Blood. As you can see there have been many horror films both with (The Shining) and without blood that managed to chill whoever watches it to the bone. This was a horrible disappointment by a hack director who doesn't even know how to cover his tracks like Polanksi does in Rosemary's Baby.

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I agree with you, but something that pisses me off greatly is when people say "if you didn't/did like this movie, then you have bad taste!"

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so basically this was meant to be a book about the horror of the eighties for dummies, that's what you call a good film, it's a piece of garbage, the only horrifying thing in this movie was how bad the pizza was in the 1980s! i'm glad that i didn't start eating pizza before the late 1990s.

i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

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