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What was up with the father?


The one who was intrested in Chinese medicine seemed entirely too calm during the entire thing. It was as if he knew what was going on, but didn't tell anyone else what to expect, or as if he was running an experiment and was watching it unfold. Think about it: he took the blonde girl away from the others, stayed away from everyone else, and when he was forced to look for the missing kids in the woods, he picked up that bloody rock as if it were a sample, like he could take it back and analyse it. He must have been up to something, I just don't know what. Any thoughts on this, or am I seeing things that aren't there?

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hahahha all good points!

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Jonah is just a typical selfish middle class t*at. He hasn't even got any of the medicine yet, he's only thinking of possibly going into it as a buissness. As for taking away Miranda, he had a rather disturbing obsession with her.

::Kim::

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incest maybe???....or just a protective dad...iwish rhe movie shows how that guy dies

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It does.

He doesn't put his seatbelt on, daughter forces him to crash the car, he goes out through the windshield.

He is buried under snow because there is a snowdrift just after they leave the house. They show this with a shot of a blood stain on the garden snow being covered up.

I was actually pretty sad when this guy died. He was weird, but he was one of only two characterised performances in it. The others were just boring pretty people who deserved everything they got.

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He was still breathing (barely) when his wife found him, right ? Though, he surely died soon after.

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He was still breathing (barely) when his wife found him, right ? Though, he surely died soon after.


You're talking about another character (Robbie)

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"by - llbrokenmindedll on Sat Apr 4 2009 03:45:10
Jonah is just a typical selfish middle class t*at. He hasn't even got any of the medicine yet, he's only thinking of possibly going into it as a buissness."

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He struck me as a person who lives in a fantasy/dream world where he thinks up get rich quick schemes. When he was confronted with this extreme situation he just retreated into himself so he didn't have to deal with the reality of the situation.

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I think he just favours Miranda because she actually was his biological daughter. He was only a step-father to Casey. She doesn't like him and you can tell he doesn't like her. That is why he is so quick to believe the sister-in-law when she says Casey was the one killing everyone off and why he was so violent towards her when trying to protect Miranda.

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Sounds right to me.


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I haven't hated a character in a movie as much as him in a looooong time.

He had no remorse when his own damn child died! What the hell?

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Ya, my boyfriend and I said the exact same thing. It was weird so he must have known.

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Jonah was a perfectly believable character to me.

He is a middle class, well educated intellectual with a bohemian streak who has obviously led a typical, comfortable and fairly pampered life up until the events of the film kick in. He's a typical new age English father if you like.

When everything kicks off, he can't cope. Simple as that. Most men in his situation would be the same. Trying to rationalize what is going on, trying to portray a facade of calmness and being in control when it's really obvious to the viewer (and the other characters) that he really isn't in control at all and is actually very ineffectual. Frozen into numbness by the perceived impossibility of what is going on if you like. Look at the way that his hysterical sister-in-law lambasts him out in the woods when she screams at him to 'Take some responsibility - do something'. She actually sums up what most of us viewers are thinking at that point.

The reaction to finding his son dead is also very authentic. Again, he can't believe it. Look at how he acts calm as he approaches his son and cradles him. That's the residue of his shock - he's not displaying emotion at this point because he is still unable to grasp and make sense of what has happened in so short a time.

Afterwards, he does display emotion - you see his red rimmed eyes and his gaunt look as he comforts his wife. Then you see the mix of confused emotions on his face as he realizes that his wife and daughter killed his son. As soon as his sister-in-law screams that his teenage daughter is the one who is behind everything, that is the trigger he needs because to his muddled mind that actually makes sense.

His actions afterwards are perfectly understandable. He sees the teenage daughter attack his youngest daughter and so confirmation is provided. His one priority at that point is to protect his vulnerable younger daughter and get her away from the two other members of his family that he believes are now a real threat. Hence the escape by car with Miranda. He leaves Elaine and Casey for the police and ambulance when they arrive.

Nice logical progression if you ask me - marvellously portrayed by the actor.

Cheers :-)

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Totally agree with you. I thought he was a flawed character but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't acted well. I thought the actor did a great jobe with a character who was quite dislikeable in my opinion.

I also had the distinct impression that Casey was his stepchild and there wasn't much of a bond between them, and there are earlier shots of his reactions to his son's behaviour, (who I believe was possibly autistic? His behaviour and his parents's reactions to him certainly seemed to imply some level of behavioural problems which had nothing to do with the sickness he developed. These reactions, for me, implied that Jonah played favourites and Miranda was his. He didn't trust his wife after he cottoned on to how it was her who pushed his son on to the glass/doorframe and so left her and Casey behind and took Miranda. Casey, after all, was the one being accused of hurting the children, not the other way around. So he locked her up and left her too.

Just an opinion though, I've only seen it once so would be interesting to see it again to analyse the relationships within the families a bit more and to see where I got these impressions from exactly!

Come. It is time to keep your appointment with the Wicker Man...

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I know this is an old topic but I just saw this movie. I hated this character (Jonah). I've never seen the actor in anything else but I wasn't impressed with his performance, either.

I was glad when Jonah was dead at the end, because he was a rotten father. He treated Casey like crap, he beat the little boy, the only one he liked was the blonde daughter, and that was to a point that it was creepy. I definitely got a weird vibe from those two that there was more than a father/daughter relationship going on there. In other words, I'd bet a dollar to a donut he loved her in a romantic way and was molesting her, that was certainly the feeling I got there from the performances and the script.

I'm just sorry he didn't die sooner.

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Casey was his step daughter, she disliked him and he her, so that's why he became so violent toward her in the end. Mirranda was his real daughter so that's why he favored her. He was a person who lives in a dream world, as evidence by his bewilderment when he was cradling his son's body.

He only jolted awake when his sister in law screamed at him to take control for once and to his mind he put it together that his wife and his step daughter had killed his son, then he walks in to find Casey trying to kill his biological daughter Mirranda. Course he assumes that Casey is killing his children and his wife is part of it since she's covering for Casey so He decides its best to get Mirranda out of there.



His mistake though

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I definitely got a weird vibe from those two that there was more than a father/daughter relationship going on there. In other words, I'd bet a dollar to a donut he loved her in a romantic way and was molesting her, that was certainly the feeling I got there from the performances and the script.


Wow!! NO!! That kind of thinking gets innocent people put in prison.

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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He didn't seem innocent to me, though. I don't know what the intention of the script was but he gave me the creeps.

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Didn't anyone notice how many wine/liquor bottles were being thrown out? They were all "impaired", to put it mildly!!!

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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I noticed that, too!

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Good theory. I was confused by his behavior, too. I think if he were up to something he would have been more apt to have survived. I understand him being upset when he came in and saw his step daughter trying to kill his daughter, but why was he so rough with his wife? Why did he leave her there with everything going on? He didn't even try to talk to her. Why didn't he notice how odd his daughter was behaving? Is this a cultural thing? Who just takes their prepubescent daughter to another room when she scratches her aunt in the face and starts screaming? Also, why wouldn't the mom just unlock Casey's door? Why make her break through it? That scene handled tension pretty well, but there were just too many 'huh???' moments for me.

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And when his brother-in-law is bleeding to death in the snow he's just complaining about how his wife doesn't give a damn about the cut on his arm. What kind of person is selfish that he complains about a cut while a member of the family is dying in the backyard while his children watch??

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I thought the actor who played the seemingly care free Father was absolutely terrible. The entire cast were dreadful apart from the children.

Honestly I almost launched my TV remote at the tele. They appeared to talk in a forced and elevated octave, it sounded unrealistic and rather than add something to the performances it irritated me to the point that at times during the movie I hit the mute button.

It's all a deep end.

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