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scene in the woods with the weapon

posted 8 years ago by FinesHerbes
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I'm not American & just don't get the fascination with handgun ownership and availability like this. However, I'm not intending to prompt debate on that via this post...

I just wanted to remark that the kind of tom-foolery this pair display as a supposed 'adult' role-model and kid with the handgun & flakjacket target-'play' seems ripe for just the kind of unfortunate /fatal outcome all those news-stories that regularly re-occur point to. Also, if there's not manslaughter/horrid accidental outcome, then it's a needless accident waiting to happen which ties up hospital emergency rooms more than necessary surely? It just seems the height of social and cultural complacency. Guns for sport and hunting I 'get', but this type of gun use & fooling around puzzles me?

[i'm not trolling or getting into a debate/judgement - it's just intended a passing remark of my thoughts in response to that scene :) ]

good movie - refreshing pacing & quirkiness for a studio flick from the States which is appreciated.

[–] yahko_kun 8 years ago

Guns are fun to shoot. Understanding safety about guns is another issue. Davis isnt really worried about getting killed because he feels dead inside already. He just felt to live on the edge at that moment. He goes for a jog in the morning so he want to stay fit, so he cares for his life.

Watch the Italian movie Gomorrah and you will see its not an American thing at all when it comes to guns. Its easy to buy them in the US than in other countries, thats all.

[–] FinesHerbes 8 years ago

Yeah- I've seen the kids in Gomorrah doing their thing and those scenes to which you refer - but my points still stand wrt/ that kind of gun play complacency respecting safety in their "fun" use I figure ??- I stand corrected in pointing the finger solely at Nth America in terms of that stuff / gun access of course AND SO tnx yr reply /input.

Aside - Gomorrah is great flick and I recommend the Italian TV series which sprang from it if you don't mind subtitles / understand Italian

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2049116/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

:) - Best Wishes

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[–] david-rf 8 years ago

This is a nonsense and couldn't be farther from the truth. The Gomorra example is a very bad one. In the scene you are referring to we have a very specific situation where two gangsters-wannabe steal some weapons to a crime gang and shoot some of those weapons on the beach to have fun. It's a very very peculiar situation that can't be generalized and can't be use to represent the general italian feeling towards weapons.

In Italy almost NO ONE has guns for personal protection. Of all the people I know personally - and I mean ALL - only two have guns of some kind at home, for personal protection. Two. The gun thing is almost nonexistent in Italy.

IT IS, on the other hand, an american thing, as no other country in the world has such a massive amount of gun diffusion. I'm not saying it's good or bad here, just pointing out the situation in Italy and the vast majority of all the other countries in the world is humongously different than in the U.S.

VIVA LA VINYL

[–] chillpillory 8 years ago

sure, but Davis (Jake G) wanted to get shot. he liked getting that nail through the foot. i think he half wanted the kid to shoot him. having a death-wish seemed to be part of his demolition urge.

[–] TomFromMySpaceinhell 8 years ago

"I'm not American" Well you said it and that's exactly why you don't understand and you never will.

[–] Canis-D 8 years ago

What an idiotic comment.

Thanks for making the USA look even worse by showing that just yet another moron lives here.

Good grief...

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[–] griffon652 8 years ago

The common sense behind gun ownership is very simple. I just cant understand why non Americans and many Americans cannot understand it. The police take time to respond to crimes and that's in scenarios where the police are even notified. Are you saying you DONT want the ability to protect your wife and children from evil people that may break into your house to do more then just steal?

Take the Cheshire, Connecticut murders. Two guys broke into a house tied up a family (father, mother and two teenage daughters). One man held the family hostage while the other took the mother to a bank to withdraw all their money. Then they proceeded to rape the mans wife and then suffocate her to death. Then to escape and leave no evidence they poured gasoline over the daughters, the house and burned them alive. Only the father managed to break free after the fire started and escape. They probably raped the poor daughters too but the evidence was burned away in the fire so they didn't have to admit to it.

Tell me you wouldn't want a gun in your house if men like that broke in?

[–] Canis-D 8 years ago

Even assuming that your example makes a bit of sense... (pointing out one example of such a thing out of all of our history hardly makes a good case) ...that still doesn't make sense for people to carry weapons outside of their homes.

Even in the case you mention, do you really think anyone would have been able to get to their gun, locked up in their underwear drawer, before getting tied up? Do you not think that maybe the bad guys had the element of surprise in that case?

If this is the best you can come up with, I think it's time we pass a new amendment!

[–] TomFromMySpaceinhell 8 years ago

"locked up in their underwear drawer" Wow that's a great comment yes everyone who owns a handgun keeps it in their underwear drawer you seem to know so much about gun ownership and the people who own them. Please tell me more about this subject I'm all ears.

[–] griffon652 8 years ago

So your argument to what I said was that I listed one example? Really?? So unless I list "every example in human history" I'm wrong? That's some great logic in your part!

I gave an example of a home invasion/burglary. That's a very common crime in every single country on the planet and yes it was common throughout human history too. That's why I used that example. But obviously you had your "anti gun" mind made up so you decided not to use common sense when deciding if my example made sense.

Second, its obvious you have never owned a gun. Why the heck would I keep my gun locked up if I plan on needing it quickly in an emergency? The answer is I don't keep it locked. Unless the home invader magically breaks through a window next to where I'm standing and tackles me at the same time; I will have more then enough time to reach my gun. Also I see you completely ignored the main question I asked because anyone answering with a "no" would sound like a moron. Would you want to have a gun in your hand if someone broke into your house intending to harm your family? I think almost everyone on this planet would answer that with a resounding "yes."

[–] TomFromMySpaceinhell 8 years ago

I'm glad someone had a prime example of when a gun could of came in handy and protected themselves and their family from harm. All these haters have probably never even shot a gun let alone held one but they seem to think that anyone who owns them are just a bunch of crazies looking to kill someone. I just can't stand their ignorance and maybe someday something bad will happen to them and they will start thinking different about protecting their own.

[–] stuart4379 8 years ago

Every American who I have spoken to about owning a gun always says about the need to protect their family from the savage lunatics waiting to break to rape and pillage. If this is indeed true, then I for one will never set foot in a country where the citizens have to live in such abject terror night after night.

God bless America indeed. It sure sounds as if they need it.

[–] TomFromMySpaceinhell 8 years ago

I'm sure we'll manage without you here.

[–] fountainclown-12370 8 years ago

To answer your question - no I don't want a gun in my hand if men like that break in. I want the police to come and protect me.. You know, the guys actually trained to shoot someone

[–] foxytree2 7 years ago

Yeah and it wouldnt be a good result for you

[–] joshnj-65866 7 years ago

Take the Cheshire, Connecticut murders.

Griffon652 favors the "less is more" approach on gun laws and the complete opposite with unnecessary details.

[–] rareandfirsts 8 years ago

I am American and agree wholeheartedly with your comment. Not all of us here a knuckle dragging idjits that feel that having guns is one of the most important things in life.

The Dude abides.

[–] NoEasyBucketsBro 8 years ago

Yes...here in the USA we regularly shoot each other with bulletproof vests on. It's part of growing up. Later on in life we all end up having breakdowns and bulldoze our houses.

[–] buffyMove 8 years ago

The man wasn't feeling any emotions. So getting shot at made him feel scared, so at least he was feeling something. And that felt good to him.

[–] drenchme 8 years ago

Yours is a fair question, FinesHerbes, and in my opinion, Davis’s bizarre behavior was deliberately meant to be peculiar and reckless. His character is flailing for answers—mostly in the wake of his wife’s death, but I'll bet that his issues likely pre-dated that tragedy. Of course, this is simply my opinion, and you’d have to ask the director and screenwriter, to be sure.

That said, to explicitly answer your question: no, this “shoot me” game is NOT an American thing. Sadly, however, the gun culture in general in this country is a huge problem. The mass shootings here are despicable. And there‘s no solution in sight, thanks to Neanderthals like feersumendjinn. Perverts like him fetishize guns, polish their guns, pose for pictures with their guns. It’s disgusting. And don’t believe their rhetoric about protecting their homes from burglars, because these inbreds don’t possess guns for defense. On the contrary: they LONG for an opportunity to experience a home invasion and kill a predator. Then again, these mouth-breathers are not very smart. They get off on shiny metal objects that go “bang.” They’re not interested in reading, hiking, art, nutrition, conversation, or enlightenment of any kind. Obviously, they don’t give one crap about higher education. It’s no coincidence that university towns tend to be anti-gun.

Hardware; stopping power; racism; killing things. That’s what these knuckle-dragging gun goons know and love. Perhaps they just don’t know any better--raised by low-lives that teach them to be such pervs.

[–] fountainclown-12370 8 years ago

The 'we need guns to defend ourselves' is utter crap and everyone knows it.. The American obsession with guns will be their downfall and they have already lost so many lives to it... Hope it's worth it to them because the rest of the world just shakes their head and mutters "reap what you sow"

[–] drenchme 8 years ago

As an American, I am ashamed of the gun pervs my country produced. While these monsters don't represent all of us, they sure represent a lot of us. I wish they'd disappear.

[–] geoffingeorgia 7 years ago

Factually, firearms are use hundreds of thousands of times annually to deter crime.
Even the Violence Policy Center, which is virulently anti-gun ownership, admits about 70,000 documented cases where gun owners have thwarted criminals, by use of a firearm.
Add to that the FBI's Uniform Crime Report that says it's at least 200,000 times, and probably much much higher, since many don't get reported, and even when they do, police often don't file those reports or else they discourage the victims from reporting.