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make sure you get decent subtitles


I've just seen this, with subtitles that could have only been written by copying the french subtitles into a cheap online translator.

Incomprehensible rubbish.

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Why do people admit to stealing a film on an open Internet board?!










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it's called sharing, not stealing.

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[it's called sharing, not stealing.

Oh of course it is. You can't possibly calling it anything else, can you.
Consider yourself a thief, and don't try and justify otherwise!




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yeah well, you don't care what i think and i certainly don't care what you think. doesn't make you right though, so climb off that horse and remember "sharing is caring"

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There's no horse, it's the Law. The Law cares what you think, that's why they do things like this:-

"U.S. Shuts Down Web Sites in Piracy Crackdown"
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/technology/27torrent.html


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i'm not in the US so that law is meaningless and irrelevant to me; one day Americans are going to realise their jurisdiction doesn't extend beyond their border. i bet it hadn't even crossed your mind that some countries have different laws to the US.

i also assume that you never speed while driving, or make false insurance claims or try to get out of paying less tax. you must be permanently sunburnt from the halo

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I work for my self in the software industry, I feel it first hand when people steal my work, theft effects the future of my business.
But of course, with these 'big' corporate film makers, it doesn't matter if people don't pay for their creativity, they'll be just fine!!
NO, THEY WILL NOT.

Speeding in your car (without crashing) doesn't effect anyone, but theft means someone else has lost out. There is no way you can justify it.



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ah, but speeding is against the law; does that make you a hypocrite?

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They are both illegal, but you seem to think that downloading films is completely harmless, but it is not.
And which countries laws do you abide by?

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a file shared does not equal a lost sale, if i download a file that doesn't mean i would pay for it if downloading wasn't available, so in essence it is harmless; either i download and don't pay for it, or i don't download and don't pay for it, either way a sale hasn't been lost. plus of course the file still exist so nothing has been taken, hence the difference between sharing and stealing. you may feel otherwise and you're entitled to your opinion, but to reiterate that doesn't make you right.

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You are taking copyrighted material.
If you created something on the internet that you wanted to make a living out of, only to find everybody just taking it, then you would feel a bit pissed off!
I blame the likes of youTube, and file-sharing sites. It makes people believe that everything on the internet should be free. When it isn't legal. But what do they care.

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correction, sharing material, nothing is being taken you still have a copy to sell to whoever wants to buy it, you do not lose money since people either download and not pay you or don't download and not pay you, either way it's not a lost sale.

you might as well blame radio as well since it plays music for free all day, or MTV which plays music videos for free all day long as well, or TV which plays films and other programs for free as well.

and everything on the internet is free, you just have to know where to look. it's the same when you speed while driving, it isn't legal, but what do you care.

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You are taking copyrighted material.
If you created something on the internet that you wanted to make a living out of, only to find everybody just taking it, then you would feel a bit pissed off!
I blame the likes of youTube, and file-sharing sites. It makes people believe that everything on the internet should be free. When it isn't legal. But what do they care.

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you're copying on the internet, fun isn't it.

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No. Thief. Grow up.


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classic, are you going to confirm godwin's law next? bless.

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What are you talking about. You're in the wrong, but so are many millions of Internet users. It's about anonymity, and lack of cause and effect.
It just makes you think when your a film maker or a developer - but YOU can't see that at all.


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Sorry, but Pseudo-geordie boy is morally correct.

I certainly don't see how will you lose money when a person downloads your copied software with the intention of never paying for it in the first place. Like what he said; either he downloaded your software or no payment, you don't lose anything in the end.

As being the author of your own software, you can copy and paste it into LARGE (if not infinite) numbers at free of charge. Crying about someone not paying you for using one of your duped items just proves how greedy you actually are.

Yes, it's illegal, but don't forget that the law was created by imperfect humans; humans make mistakes. Using the "Wrong, because it's against the law" excuse does not make you outright right.

And by the way, I'm a developer myself as well. Word of advice for you, find what potential customers really want. Once they reach thier satisfaction, there's a good chance that they will buy your products. Good reviews can help. Also, there are many ways to force customers to pay your software (e.g. server authorisation), although I don't recommend this.

If your software sucks compared to other software and then you cry about people not buying your products, then well, you would probably know why.

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Theft of computer games is estimated at about 1000 to 1, that's a thousand people stealing to one person buying. That is a problem that has destroyed many companies. It has nothing to do with me, it's just how things are.

I'm all for different ways of pushing sales, of course, even Apples, but it really doesn't help that EVERYBODY thinks that everything on the Internet is completely free, it's a worrying culture shift. I'm just high-lighting it.

Doesn't it seem odd that people wouldn't dare walk into HMV and pick up a copy of this film, and walk out with it without paying? Those are the morals people teach there children - do not steal. The disc probably only costs about 25p to manufacture, so why not, in fact you go do that now, go on. What's stopping you? Oh right, the fear of being caught.
So anonymous film downloading theft is OK, but shop theft is not? Sounds like you do a bit of downloading yourself.

All I'm really doing is pointing out that people don't even realise what they are doing is illegal, that they just openly discuss it in a forum. It's simply a good indicator to how bad things have got.


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