Ladies, you're NOT CURVY, You're FATTTTTT!!! - Say Yes to the Dress (2007) Discussion

[–] GeorgiaLass 14 years ago

I understand your perspective and I agree with it, but these women don't see themselves as fat. They are just like a lot of modern-day Americans. They don't realize that they are huge and they don't accept it. It's why clothing sizes have changed through the years. The fact is that being big has become socially acceptable. People need to realize that. It's not pretty, but it's a fact.

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

I agree, when i was a fat piece of crap year ago, I remember measuring my waist at 48 and my pant size was 42.

Being big and "loving yourslef" is the order of the day today, and it sucks, we need to realize when we are living an unhealthy lifestyle.

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[–] Livana_Faolan 12 years ago

Don't refer to obese people as fat pieces of crap, including yourself. Instead of making fun of people who aren't thin, have you ever thought about ... oh, I don't know ... helping them? And FYI: Making fun of people who are overweight or obese? That is not helping them; that's bullying them.

And by the way: unless your body is perfect in every way, you have no right to look down on anyone. I'm pretty sure that there are a few areas that you could work on.

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[–] mckinna_rae 14 years ago

I completely agree. There is nothing wrong with being big, as long as your healhy (which i mean lets face it, most fat people aren't). But curvy and fat ARE NOT THE SAME THING!! I think most people call themselves "curvy" to feel better about themselves. If you wanna be curvy, lose the fat and get the curves. Plain and simple.

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

There's nothing like the shape of a REAL woman. Nice size up top, but more importantly, nice size in the butt, hips and thighs, drives me wild, give me Kim Kardashian, Beyonce, even Jennifer Hudson is delectible these days (Ewww, I never thought I'd say that about her). Don't get mee wrong, I like a skinny girl from time to time, Jessica Alba is AMAZING and a nice tones muscly girl is fine too, but I love the curves all the way. Now I have NEVER been into a rotund woman, EVER!

We tend to do a lot of this. We just never admit when people fail. Tommy isn't bad at school, he's artistic, oh, he's not unathletic, he just hasn't found his sport yet, oh, those people aren't criminal pieces of trash, they've been oppressed, oh he's not a failure, he's our president.

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[–] pjpurple-1 14 years ago

Even very overweight brides can look good. I think they are just choosing the wrong gowns! I don't know why anyone who is obese would want to wear those strapless numbers with the low cleavage. Lordy! Yesterday one bride who was a D cup at least chose a low cut gown. Her bodice looked like the prow of a big ship. And big flabby arms are not attractive either, imho.

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[–] shani-3 14 years ago

Even very overweight brides can look good. I think they are just choosing the wrong gowns! I don't know why anyone who is obese would want to wear those strapless numbers with the low cleavage. Lordy! Yesterday one bride who was a D cup at least chose a low cut gown. Her bodice looked like the prow of a big ship. And big flabby arms are not attractive either, imho

LOL--I agree about the strapless gowns! I saw so many of them that I was asking myself "do they even make gowns with straps anymore?". Another bad choice is the mermaid silhouette--way too tight! A trumpet silhouette would be much better.

Yeah, they're dead, they're--all messed up.

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[–] evilkowsrus 14 years ago

Wow, I'm impressed to see so many people agreeing and I'm right there with you. The women in the previews look like overstuffed sausages, not women. That's not "curvy" (except in the way circles are curvy) and that is definitely NOT what any woman wants to be. That's morbid obesity.

That being said, it's still these women's wedding days and they still deserve to look their best which probably means not wearing a parachute for a wedding dress. It certainly makes sense for them to show this episode for the many women who are similarly sized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtSjXBA4Ww

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

"Wow, I'm impressed to see so many people agreeing and I'm right there with you"

I'm surprised too. I thought for sure I'd be flamed for this post, but people here are in touch with reality. I find women (I assume everyone here but me is a woman) don't suffer fatties gladly.

I agree they should have to wear big girl dresses, but these things are not flatering they're fattering.

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[–] amazon423 14 years ago

I know I am dating myself here but I don't agree with the strapless body hugging styles favored by brides these days. I am a heavyweight, married in 1975 and had a dress with sleeves and high neck that was sheer from the top of my bra cups up to my neck and down to my wrists.I had a Fall wedding in Sacramento. It had an empire waist, 3 ft train and was loose. Even today I would go for something in the same style. What a heavy weight is thinking of when she gets into a body hugging gown that makes her look like a stuffed sausage is beyond my imagination!

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[–] GeorgiaLass 14 years ago

In case you haven't noticed, overweight people of both sexes wear clothing, not just wedding dresses, that is simply too tight. Personally I think it should be illegal to produce anything in spandex that is above a certain size, but the manufacturing make this stuff and people seem to want to squeeze themselves into it. It really makes them look fatter, but I think it's the opposite of anorexia. They don't see fat in the mirror just as some people with eating disorders see fat that isn't there.

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[–] Nikistx 13 years ago

It should also be illegal to manufacture women's pants over a size 12.

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[–] maruru_66 13 years ago

Ok, that's a little extreme.

I'm not a tiny girl, I know I need to lose a few. I realize, and COMPLETELY agree that obesity is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. There's no reason whatsoever for someone to be morbidly obese.

However, there are medical conditions that prevent people from being under a certain size/losing weight. Thyroid disease runs in my family, and even with medication, some of my cousins (and my mother) can't get below a certain weight that most of you in this thread would find disgusting and repulsive. And they are not lazy. They eat healthy (probably just as good or better than a lot of the people slinging hate around) and exercise daily. Not everyone who is overweight (or obese) can get below a size 12. That's ridiculous. Should I walk around calling them fat and lazy when they are active and have a very healthy, balanced diet? That's rude, hurtful, and totally uncalled for. Yeah, most of those women probably got to the size they are by unhealthy habits and lack of discipline. (and the horrible styles that only look good on a model definitely don't do them any favors) But can any of you say for sure that all of them do nothing more than sit on their couch and shove ice cream and cheese puffs down their throats? No. Some of them might have conditions that prevent them from dropping weight. It's hard for any of us to really judge them or their lives.

If it's so gross to you, don't watch it.

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[–] Felixthecat34213 11 years ago

It should also be illegal to manufacture women's pants over a size 12.

Um are you kidding me?? ...A size 12 is a normal size for a tall woman...you people are aware of that right? Actually that's a fairly normal size for most women, a slightly overweight short female would be fine in that size. Not to mention sizes are so full of crap! Every store, the sizes are different....how do you explain that?? How can a size 12 be a size 8 in another store? Stores like to play with female sizes because they know it affects their ego. Men sizes are extremely universal everywhere you go, because men don't give a *beep*

I guess most people have never even bothered to read BMI, you guys just guess based on looking. Someone who is 5 foot 10 and weighs say 170 pounds is of a normal, average weight. Theoretically that person should be a size 12...that's their normal pant size.

Actually someone who is 5 foot 0 would only a bit overweight and still be able to fit comfortably into a size 12. Not all women are models, we all carry weight differently.

Realistically it has to do with how your body situates the fat you're carrying. Some of you "skinny people" may not realize that your body is hiding visceral, abdominal fat that is shoving itself into your organs right now. Some of you, after reaching age 30+ will blow up like baloons. So keep eating your McDonalds and Starbucks iced coffees (which I've seen most skinny people partake in frequently)

It's actually less harmful for someone to have a lot of fat on the surface of their body. This fat can be worked off fairly easily. Visceral fat takes years of hard cardio to work off.

As for medical conditions...this is totally possible. We live in a society that loves popping pills. I personally think our biggest issues concerning weight gain come from medication, whether it be over the counter or under the counter. I took epileptic medication for years and blew up like a balloon. The minute I went off of it, I lost 20 pounds by just sitting on the couch all day long. And this is just for seizures, think of all the other fairly average and common medications people use for bipolar disorder, depression, pain killers/relievers, thyroid illnesses, pretty much whatever disorder you have that requires medication. Also, birth control causes weight gain as well.

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[–] Livana_Faolan 12 years ago

In case you haven't noticed, people of all sizes are known for that; not just people who are overweight.

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[–] Mort11 14 years ago

I agree. They look like stuffed sausages in those strapless, tight gowns. Loose empire waists with sleeves would look so much better. There is no reason to show off fat. It's not pretty. Many of the girls themselves are pretty but those dress look like Hell on them....

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[–] amazon423 14 years ago

The clothes nowadays are mostly made for smaller people but there are plenty of clothes out there though for those who are heavy weights if those buying would use some common sense in clothing. Wedding gowns should show your good sense in clothing for a formal event. This is the biggest day of your life. Do you want people laughing behind your back about how tight and inappropriate your dress was? Get real!

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[–] taltos_girl 14 years ago

Your not INTELLIGENT, Your RETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDED

man pig

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[–] TizziLish 14 years ago

I'm a female and I'm not a size 2 but I actually agree with OP.

There is a difference between curvy and fat. Sorry but there is and thats not to say they can't find a semi-flattering dress but there are limits when you weigh 300 pounds. And a mermaid dress is not for you.

"And that, my friend, is what they call "closure".

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[–] gabby1234 14 years ago

I'm thinking the problem is, no wedding dresses are being made for the "larger" bride - so they'll be unflattering.

I remember a country music video (forget the song and singer) where a large lady bought an outfit she saw in a magazine (modeled by a thin model)and saw herself model thin in the mirro (even though she clearly was not).

Maybe that's part of the problem?

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

I kind of agree. But the truth is there are a lot of places out there that cater to larger women. In the end, however, we need to realize that this is not healthy, not acceptable, and should not be catered to that much because it is not good for our society as a whole. This is not an American problem either, when I lived in Europe, people were huge too, in Japan and China obesity is on the rise, the world is smaller and we're getting bigger. But people accept it, people make bigger and bigger clothes, make bigger airplane seats, maybe the real problem is we make life to easy for fat people and they don't mind getting fatter.

It used to be you only saw a morbidly obese person once in a blue moon, like seeing a little person on the street, it was a oddity, now they're everywhere and it's not being mean, it's being real and saying that this is dangerous and not a good thing.

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[–] GeorgiaLass 14 years ago

I can speak from experience about the treatment of obese people in the past. My father is obese and has been since the 60's. I can remember being out in the public with him and people would actually turn and stare. I also remember all of the mean comments that were made. It was like that throughout the 70's, 80's and then there was a change in the '90's. It was hard to find a 3X shirt for him. Most of the time we had to order his clothes. Now you can find 4X's in Walmart! The funny thing is that he is small in comparison to many of the obese people that we see know.

I will also say that being overweight is not a healthy lifestyle and obese people have an eating disorder. It's mental, not physical. Growing up with a person like this gives a person true insight into the truth about obese people. Most of them overeat for various reasons and are lazy. They don't move enough to burn calories.

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

I'm guessing youre fat. It's OK, just cover up and get on a diet.

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[–] Cindi14 14 years ago

Jessica; 'I got what girls want'. 'I'm curvy'. 'My coke bottle figure'.
I got news for you, Jessica. What you got is fat- and we DON'T want it.

These girls look hidious. What on earth makes them think they look 'beautiful'??
Cover it up and go on a diet.

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[–] GeorgiaLass 14 years ago

This woman has evidently never seen a coke bottle. Coke bottles have curves but they are also sleek. She does not have a coke bottle figure.

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

I haven't actually seen the fat girl episode, is Jessica one of them? Did she actually say that? I got what girls want? As a guy, I will say, we don't want that either. Well maybe black guys who love them some fat white women.

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[–] Cindi14 14 years ago

Yes, Jessica was one of the 'plus sizes' and yes, she said I've got a coke bottle shape and I've got what girls want. LOL

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[–] trompos 14 years ago

Wow, not only do you agree with me, but the Obama File link is awesome. If I weren't married, I'd get down on one knee and propose. You're an awesome chick.

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[–] Nikistx 13 years ago

How sweet of you to say that.
I just wish everyone would read The Obama File and educate themselves.
We cannot afford four more years of this man in the White House.

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[–] TizziLish 14 years ago

Maybe she meant a 2 Liter coke bottle?

"And that, my friend, is what they call "closure".

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[–] pijanadevojka 14 years ago

^^^ LMAo exactly she probably meant a 2liter coke bottle.

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[–] analoggirl2015 14 years ago

I think you are all being extremely negative. What effect does it have on you WHAT these women call themselves? They can call themselves spotted giraffes for all I care ... it does not have any affect on me in the least! If they need to refer to themselves as "curvy" instead of "fat" to be able and wake up and look at themselves in the mirror every morning then so be it. Don't give me that crap either that you care about their health, because you don't. Just worry about yourselves.

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[–] sorchasgarden 14 years ago

I am a little baffled why all these folks feel compelled to come to a website to call total strangers fat. And I totally agree that there is no actual concern about health, they just want to be mean.
It seems that there is a simple solution: if you don't want to marry a fat bride, don't. I doubt that a bunch of fat or full-figured women are prepared to kill themselves because the OP does not find them attractive.
And before anyone decides to attack me, I am a fat/full-figured woman. I wear a size 16/18, have excellent clevage (some of which I plan to show on my wedding day, so don't look if larger breasts offend you!) and I know how to dress myself so that I look attractive & professional as needed. And you don't need to worry about my health because I have doctors for that. Thanks!

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[–] DecSag32 13 years ago

I am glad you last two left posts. I was beginning to give up on the human race.

I work out every day, eat right and I am a size 8 because I want to be and it is important to me.(Don't get me wrong--Carne Asada Burritos happen every now and then!) However, do I feel that gives me the right to call someone a cow and state that they do not deserve to be beautiful on their wedding day? No. I am surprised by some of the vitriol I am hearing. WOW.

Do I have extremely obese friends that moan and complain about not being thin, then drink 2 liters of soda? Yep. And then I tell them to shut their mouth and get to the gym with me, then. But if someone works out, eats decently and their body's set point just happens to be a size 16( which does happen)? well, then who the hell am I to judge?

At first, I had huge words for the "Christian" that started this thread, then I realized, that I haven't been surprised by much from Christians lately...and so carry on, Man of God. Amazing that the athiest has more compassion.

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[–] evilkowsrus 13 years ago

I know what bothers me about the episode is that it goes along with the recent pro-fat movement. I am so sick of hearing "real women have curves" when what they really mean is real women are a size 12+ and the only curves they have are the same as the pillsbury dough boy.

Of course these women deserve to look their best on their wedding day but that doesn't mean dressing like you're a size 6 and claiming you're hot stuff. It's just gross.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NtSjXBA4Ww

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[–] DecSag32 13 years ago

Well, I will also say that yes, they should be dressing to flatter their body type. But I would think these women would be horrid to be around if they walked around hating themselves and drowning in self pity all day! Its good that most feel good about themselves. Should most of them lose weight? Yes. But most have probably accepted what they are and are ok with it and good for them that they found a man that loves them anyways. Even as a thin girl, its nice to see that there are men out there that will love the crap out of a larger girl.

Most of my self hating weight obsessed skinny friends will never get a man because they can't stop talking about what on their bodies they want to change!If these women are happy, then cool. As my most weight obsessed friend puts it "I wish I had Fat Girl Confidence..."

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[–] jtchick 13 years ago

I woner what made the OP think he is so perfect? Yes, getting healthier is a neeed, but loving people despite the outer flesh is nessisary. I spent most of my life hating myself because of people like those who have posted here. I have always been "Thick" durring my teenage/adult life, the smalles I ever was was a 14. I am now a 16/18, but at 14 i was the smalles i could be. I only drank water, road my bike a mile or so a day, and ate as healthily as i could. I was fine the way i was except for those people. (just like you people) who thought they were so supirior just because I was big. They looked at me and talked to me like i was disgusting. Even though (from a religiouse standpoint) I was god's child just like they claimed to be. Despite what everyone else things, I deserve to feel beautiful on my wedding day just like these women do. Yes, shopping for thier own body type would be the ideal, but a bride should wear what ever makes HER feel most beautiful on HER wedding day.

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[–] Felixthecat34213 11 years ago

Even as a thin girl, its nice to see that there are men out there that will love the crap out of a larger girl.

Heh...I know you're trying to come off as nice, but this just comes off as condescending to anyone who has a larger build. Personally I don't, I have been through weight issues and worked through them, but even as someone of normal weight I find this offensive. As if attraction and love are correlated....

They're not....you love someone because you just do. You get along with them, you look forward to seeing and talking to them everyday, your significant other loves you for who you are as a person. Looks are irrelevant, they're more of a benefit really. We live in a very shallow dating world which is determined solely on who you want to bang in bed. Shockingly 50% of all marriages end in divorce and I personally I think it's because people don't understand what it's like to truly love the person they're in a relationship with.

Most of my self hating weight obsessed skinny friends will never get a man because they can't stop talking about what on their bodies they want to change!If these women are happy, then cool. As my most weight obsessed friend puts it "I wish I had Fat Girl Confidence..."

This is such a youth thing, you skinny young people will grow out of this once you marry the first guy who *beep* you and calls back. (and then subsequently cheats on your frequently behind your back until you get enough self esteem to divorce the guy and find a real relationship.) Women are trained in society to loath themselves or believe they're only as good as the man that will *beep* them and keep them. It's no different with fat women either.

Fat girl confidence doesn't exist....it's just a show really. I say this as someone who was once fat and thought I accepted who I was. Fat girl confidence exists solely to convince the "skinny normal" people (at least the fatty sees them as normal and themselves as abnormal) that fat people are not going to let you "skinny normal" people bring them down. It's a reaction to fat hatred from skinny people and bullying really....but underneath the fat girl is a self loathing, weeping, lost child looking for love. It may sound cliche, but any fat girl here will silently agree. It's more like fat people have learned to accept their lot in life.

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[–] sydnivt 13 years ago

A lot of the reasoning behind that is denial. If they say curvy instead of fat, they won't have to deal with the actual issue here. If all your curves are convex, you're not curvy, you're fat. I think its a way to stay in the place you are instead of deal with the issue head on.

It also makes people who actually are curvy feel bad about using that to describe themselves, because people who are seriously overweight have taken over the word. And it bothers me when people say, "Well it makes them feel good, so who cares." People need to be honest with themselves to truly be okay with who they are. Looking in the mirror, then lying to yourself instead of being proactive is not positive.

Seriously, if being overweight was just a look, I really wouldn't have anything to say about it. But it's not just a look, like the style of dress you wear. It's about health.

I woulda been here sooner, but I was thinking up that "ham on rye" line.

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[–] sorchasgarden 13 years ago

So, your full reason for being here is because you are concerned about fat women's health? Really? When you are being really onest with yourself, that is what you are concerned with? Other people's health?
Save it. I don't believe you. I don't think anyone has ever been successfully shamed into loosing weight and keeping it off for any length of time. Some people manage to loose weight and some even manage to keep it off but most successful change comes from a positive place not from an "I'm so ashamed/ I hate myself" place.
If you don't find fat people attractive and it isn't something in a person that you want to marry or sleep with, that's fine. I don't think anyone will ever force you to marry or *beep* a fat person. However, to take time out of your day to come to a website and trash people you will never know makes no sense to me. What do you get out of it?

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[–] sydnivt 13 years ago

I had no malice whatsoever in my post. I was just stating my opinion, simple as that. I really don't need to attach emotion to everything, or get something "out of it" to state how I feel. And I never said that people should hate themselves. I said people should be honest and that honesty can be the true spark to a better way of living. And another thing I never said was that I was "concerned" with other people's health. Each person should be concerned with their own health. When I'm being honest with myself, I'm thinking about how I should change *my* habits to get the most out of my life. I don't look in the mirror and see other people. And to see things one needs to change and be honest doesn't need to come from an "I hate myself" place.

And to your point about me wanting to "...trash people you will never know," I'd just like to add that you don't know who I know. You have absolutely no idea who I know, nor do you know me, so for you to respond to my post with that statement is funny, right?

One other thing, the word is "lose" not "loose."

I woulda been here sooner, but I was thinking up that "ham on rye" line.

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[–] Skimjim180 13 years ago

I agree. I am a very curvy person and not fat, but when I look in magazines or online for outfits that would best flatter me, there are always pictures of obese girls, it makes me feel like that is how people perceive me since they do call me curvy, and that to me is unfair I work hard for the body I have.

I am a self employed..... person. Altough I do occasionally give a $10 BJ..

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[–] Presrules 13 years ago

I don't know why these girls are opting for sleeveless. If you're fat/heavy/curvy/plump, whatever, just find something that is flattering. Lots and lots of hanging flesh is not attractive. You can show off your curves just not so much skin.

I'm surprised the consultants are not guiding these woman to better selections. They can do it OFF camera, if need be, but come on ladies!!! (and Randy), help these brides.

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[–] amazon423 13 years ago

They are in denial how they look. I am a heavyweight and although my wedding was 35 years ago I would still make the same choice of Empire waist, flowing skirt, sleeves to my wrist and lace to my throat. Now that I am older I would modify that a bit to something more appropriate to my age and the fact that if I got married a third time it would not be in a white dress and definitely without a veil.I can't stand those sausage skins on the Rubenesque brides.

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[–] FilmNut88 13 years ago

I agree that they are NOT curves when “the curves” are all fat! On top of that I am baffled by all of these plus size women who insist on wearing fit and flare, mermaid, or trumpet style dresses. Some of them don’t look too bad, but others are showing off all that is unflattering. You have to work with what you have. I will sum it up to being her day and what she wants, but I would think she would want to look her best. I don’t want anyone to have rock bottom self esteem, but I don’t care for the pride these girls have about what is essentially an unhealthy existence.

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[–] Felixthecat34213 11 years ago

I agree. I am a very curvy person and not fat, but when I look in magazines or online for outfits that would best flatter me, there are always pictures of obese girls, it makes me feel like that is how people perceive me since they do call me curvy, and that to me is unfair I work hard for the body I have.

Sadly that's true, since the pre teen, 13 year old emaciated skeletal look is in according to Star and People Magazine. God forbid we should not live according to the body image standards of People magazine. I also am a curvy person, with curves....as in I have hips and a large bottom. I also happen to be short and compact, I often wonder if that's why I'm curvier than most women. I can NEVER find a damn pair of pants that fit me width or length wise. It's quite depressing really. But I'm not going to attribute it to overweight and obese people! That's just crazy! If I had to blame anyone it would be all of these boxy shaped women with no damn figures

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[–] pyranology 13 years ago

I agree completely.

The commercials made me want to throw up.

Please, no one wants to see your "curves" ladies (except some person with a fat-fetish who gets off on sleeping with whales).

It was disgusting to see their rolls spill out of the dresses (ladies, you CANNOT do strapless tastefully!), and on top of that to shove it in our face that there is something wrong with *us* if we find them offensive to behold.

Please ladies, stay off the screen and stick to your ice cream sundaes. Barf.

Speaking of whales, does anyone remember that walrus from Vancouver? They just aired the episode again and this woman was beyond belief. She's the one who wanted her dress to "GLO" and didn't want to sell her kidneys to pay for it.

She had a shapeless head, no neck and was shaped like a barrel of flesh. And she was snarky about how other sales associates before Kleinfeld wanted to put her in A line silhouettes and how she didn't like them because it was frumpy. HAHAHAHHA.

She wanted a mermaid dress or something and boy did she look disgusting in the dress she chose.

I hope she sold a kidney; it would have made her look slimmer.

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[–] Lovetvshows 13 years ago

I agree with you. I am overweight and I would never wear any of the dresses worn by these women. You cannot show a waist when you don't have one. Why are these women spending thousands of dollars on dresses that do not flatter them. I remember the woman you are talking about. She wanted to spend five thousand dollars on a dress that was completely wrong for her. She could easily get that same effect by spending five hundred dollars.

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