Warner Bros and Legendary Please Market The Crap out of this Movie - Dune (2021) Discussion

[–] rudeboymurray (3241) 4 years ago

I think they will market it heavily, but it’ll be a tough sell. The books are dense and dark - this story is not going to appeal across the board and a lot of people probably won’t like it.

Any adaptation of Dune is a huge gamble. I’m hoping that Villeneuve and co do the novel justice but finding a big audience will be a challenge.

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[–] Joogle83 (4143) 4 years ago

Ive Told people this Game Of Thrones in Space also The R Rated Version of Star Wars

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[–] darkpast (8014) 4 years ago

they will market as a blockbuster , but general audiences may reject it. If really rated R, it may be tough to turn a profit.

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[–] HarlemEagle42 (16135) 4 years ago

The first reactions came in from an insider's screening. One guy compared it to Star Wars and Lord of The Rings. Sounds like Villeneuve actually did it.

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[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

I have seen nothing about it anywhere but here.

I have a feeling that it will not do well.

The story is too abstract to be popular with people today. There's a spice on this planet that mutates people and makes them cosmically aware then it rains on a planet where it never rains.

What?

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[–] Joogle83 (4143) 4 years ago

""The story is too abstract to be popular with people today. There's a spice on this planet that mutates people and makes them cosmically aware then it rains on a planet where it never rains."

there's a lot more to it than that

Ummm its denis Villeneuve film tell people that and the cast is great

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[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

I read the book and enjoyed it and I love the original movie.

The story is WAY too abstract and "doesn't matter" in that it's story for its own sake. It doesn't mean anything. The other books in the Dune series are even more pointless other than to tell a fantasy story with no real theme.

For instance, Star Wars is about a battle between what the life force is and it's about family forgiveness.

Blade Runner is about the value of life and that life is what it says it is. If an artificial life says it's alive, then it is because who says what's alive and not if it's 99% like life.

Many people can relate to these themes.

What is the theme of Dune?

It's about various bizarro guilds created by breeding to take the place of machines because there was a big any computer revolution. That's a whole confusing backstory. Many people will not get what a "guild" is because that's very antiquated. That is not something most people can relate to.

The spice idea is very 60s thinking that drugs expand your mind.

The war in the end is for what point? To free the Fremen---for what, because they get along with the worms, so what?

I'm not trying to be mean. What I'm saying is that it's just a story and not something that can be discussed over lunch like other such films.

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[–] zephyr_cape (2979) 4 years ago

The spice idea is very 60s thinking that drugs expand your mind.

Interest in psychedelics has come back full circle, in some ways stronger now than ever. We now have legitimate organizations doing funded medical research on these compounds, breakthroughs are rapidly being made in understanding and legalizing them, and they've broken through to mainstream conversation. For instance, DMT, which a decade ago was a totally esoteric/fringe/darkweb neo-hippy subject, is now a household name—its 'street' name is in fact, SPICE, and science is beginning to understand that it, as well as several other cousin substances, may in fact in some sense "expand" the reach and capabilities of the mind.

Interest in this subject is currently at an all time high, and it's made its way solidly into pop culture, so this element may actually be a great draw to certain sectors of the audience.

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[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

Let's go for it!

In PA, "Spice" one name and "K2" (used in Philly) refers to synthetic weed soaked potpourri packets. That is fairly dangerous because I worked in a place and people just fall over dead from smoking it. Thankfully, all lived!

DMT is found in cough syrup. I had a psych client who used to steal it and drink many bottles at a time. He was a massive perfectionist who was also on the fence about being gay, so his mind was an anxiety festival. He said DMT was the only thing that made him feel normal.

I like this Indian guy named Sadhguru. You can find him on youtube. He noted that our brains are stimulated to the fullest by drugs. That means that if one knows how, you can achieve that stimulation without drugs.

I have always been sober because I must be for work. However, I was with a loved one recently and they were relapsing. She was smoking crack in my car. I breathed it in, which made me angry, but I still got the sensation. It was the same sensation as when I know I've done something awesome or I see another do something awesome. So, my love for people and happiness creates the same rush!

I realized, that's what Sadhguru says! So, smoking crack is nothing, it's just doing something to your brain that is already a potential feeling, if you have the right mindset.

So, I don't believe any of these drugs are actually doing anything or are special.

It's an interesting topic though and if spice was real, I'd use it.

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[–] zephyr_cape (2979) 4 years ago

In PA, "Spice" one name and "K2" (used in Philly) refers to synthetic weed soaked potpourri packets.

Yup, there are a few other things that get colloquially called spice. DMT has had that nickname since the 70s though.

DMT is found in cough syrup.

That's DXM, it's a totally different thing. DMT is the most potent psychedelic known to man, and it's very highly scheduled/illegal still. You won't find it available in any mainstream capacity. However there are organizations like MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Sciences) that are doing certified medical study with it.

He noted that our brains are stimulated to the fullest by drugs. That means that if one knows how, you can achieve that stimulation without drugs.

Absolutely. If you do some research into DMT studies, such as those of Dr. Rick Strassman, you'll find that parallels are being drawn between DMT injection experiences and heightened states such as near death and religious experiences. It's known that DMT is naturally produced in the human brain during these experiences. It's a deeply fascinating subject and well worth looking into, whether you're into drugs or committed to sobriety. It's a subject of fundamental human and scientific interest.

Remember that drugs are in vastly different categories. In terms of what they're doing to brain chemistry, crack and DMT are not even remotely similar. Psychedelics do not create a rush or any sort of inherent pleasure, and in fact have been successfully used to TREAT addiction. They're in a whole different category of experience.

This is a huge topic, and far beyond the scope of a Dune message board, but if you're at all interested, a good place to start is Dr. Strassman's book, DMT: The Spirit Molecule: https://www.amazon.com/DMT-Molecule-Revolutionary-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0892819278

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[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

Right!!

DMT was also popular in Philly in the mid 2000s. I read how to make it.

I had a female client who was in the post office and had a wild religious experience which got her hospitalized. She explained what happened and I asked if it was DMT. I think religious experiences are typical with that.

People were using some common item to extract the DMT too. Much like coke you have to use all of these solvents and then you get red crystals, if I'm correct.

Note: I just read what you wrote about religious experiences!

People in Philly kept getting hospitalized for Schizophrenia because of this and they couldn't get out. I had read about the drug in this great art magazine Aperture years before. Then I read how to make it on Blue Light.

Carry Grant had LSD psychotherapy in the 50s.

I'm interested in all of this stuff, as you can tell. Plus, it's great for work. The reason people on DMT were getting stuck in the hospital is because clinicians give up reading after school and aren't worldly enough, so thanks a lot!

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[–] Satan2016 (23262) 4 years ago

Just change Spice to The Force and giant worm to giant robot.

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[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

Giant babies!

That would bring in the female demographic.

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