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Ok so ask yourself why do you really hate this film. I'll tell you why 2 words and 3 letters.

JOHN CENA
WWE.

Why in gods name do people come on this site and say oh it was a rubbish film the acting wasn't up to scratch why? I'll tell you why because the majority of the stupid idiots that come on here think they film critics in the making who probably think by slagging off a film like 12 rounds you'll get noticed and hit the big time of journalistic reporting.

Ok so here goes.....Sorry it ain't going to happen. It really does baffle me that reviewers come on here and slate this film for it's plot and acting....IT'S A BLOODY ACTION FILM....IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE AN ACADEMY AWARD WINNING BLOODY FILM. FILMS LIKE THIS ARE PROVIDED FOR YOU TO JUST GO INTO A CINEMA AND LEAVE YOUR BRAIN AT THE DOOR, AND JUST ENJOY WHAT IS PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY WHOAH THE STUNTS AND ACTION IN THAT WAS REALLY COOL NOT TO SAY, HMM JOHN CENA'S ACTING WASN'T UP TO SCRATCH, IT JUST BEGGARS BELIEF. I GUARENTEE YOU THAT IF IT HAD BEEN 12 ROUNDS WITH SAY GEORGE CLOONEY, MATT DAMON OR SOMEONE OF THAT CALIBRE VTHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BOX OFFICE SMASH AND NOT TAKING THE TOTAL ASS KICKING IT HAS BECAUSE IT'S JOHN CENA AND WWE PRODUCTIONS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS, THE SAME AS THE CONDMMENED TOOK A LOAD OF STICK AND IS IN FAIRNESS A GOOD ACTION FILM.......On the flipside the marine does suck though.

C'mon though it's a mindless action film not an academy award winning feature, it's snobs on this site that give films like this such a bad name.

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I couldn't have put it better if I tried. Nice post.

(though if you hated Marine just you wait for the sequel with Ted Diabese Jnr :-p)

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Nice post.

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i went in to see this film with no expectations and didnt want to slate it before i saw it but i dont care that its a wwe film and it stars a wrestler i just thought it was dreadful
it was a very ugly looking film with dreadful acting from everyone and the action ? what action lol
i could have bought a hand held camera and done better myself
i cant believe this was the same guy that did die hard 2
there was just no suspense and the camera just shook about violently for the whole film and i couldnt see what was happening
i dont remember renny harlin shaking the camera about like an epileptic in the 80s so i dont know why he is doing it now because it doesnt benefit the viewer at all

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See i apreciate your opinion because you have actually seen the film so kudos to you. What annoys me is these chumps that have never seen the film but they will slate it anyway.

I guarentee you some chump has rated the film a 1 on here and not even seen it.

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I agree, people shouldn't rate a movie without watching it first. Anyway, i saw the movie, it wasn't the worst movie, but i personally didn't enjoyed it at all.

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I agree, people shouldn't rate a movie without watching it first.
Except for, of course, any movie with Paris Hilton in it.

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How can you say that? Paris is a lovely actress... She should have won an Oscar for her sex tape.

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You think this is bad? What about all the morons who gave Jackie Chan's 'Karate Kid' movie a bad rating before they saw it (most probably never have or will)?? At least that IS a good movie.

This is plain rubbish and not because John Cena is in it (as much as the WWE has become crap over the past decade). All WWE related films are duds, except maybe The Rock's earlier stuff and this is no different, though its certainly not the worst. EDIT: Its just dull and WTF is that ending?! Dear oh dear! (Just finished watching it)

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I farted

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''i could have bought a hand held camera and done better myself ''

No you could not, stevenkickstart.

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I agree w/ Sono. I hate when I'm excited about seeing a film, come here to read reviews & ppl go over the top w/ it & say the most outrageous things, putting waaay to much on it! Sounding off like the man who killed their mama starred in the film or produced it. Wtf? And, knowing were not going to take that type of postings serious. Its like they jus come here to f(ukk) up a wet dream...earth-disturbers

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I had to watch this with my gf whio likes cena and we both like wwe, I personaly hate cena but liked this film which annoyed me lol, all throughout the film I was thinking why are they doing so much really high class plots to not kill him when they easily could of so the ending cheered me up

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Well said.

If an A-list actor took the project, it would have been overhyped beyond recognition. I remember when the movie came out, people were posting on here "I would not be caught dead watching a WWE film" or "Wrestlers should not act".

Let's not forget the plethora of movies starring random rappers, models, and Beyonce (not hating, just using an example). Yet, wrestlers are moreso actors they are. Wrestlers act every day of the week.

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I haven't seen 12 Rounds yet, so therefore I can't comment on the quality of the film, but I did like The Marine and thought it was a passable action film. John Cena has a very likable quality as an action star and I didn't see anything wrong in that aspect of The Marine.

Now The Mummy Returns, that was another story.....

The Rock only actually appearing three minutes at the beginning of the film, and reappearing as a CGI effect for the big climax at the end of the film. That's what I thought was wrong with The Rock's appearance in that film, but when I first saw the film The Scorpion King, that was a different story. After I watched that, I thought to myself that The Rock could get the Conan films started up again. He just has this charisma that is very likeable and pleasant.

In my humble opinion, John Cena could go very far as a film star if he has the right vehicle to appear in.

...and as always, that's just my opinion, others may vary...

Gallipoli, Gallipoli,
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Gallipoli, Gallipoli,
Gallipoli.....

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OP your post is utter nonsense. I went to watch this film with no knowledge of who John Cena was or who was involved in the film. I went because the Hangover was sold out and boy do I wish I'd book in advance. This film is utter crap - it's not believable or engaging, it's embarrassing and half of it is like a parody of a *beep* action film or a looney tunes episode. I mean - why the *beep* are they having a birthday party on tram lines!??? And don't give me the "it's only an action movie" nonsense. Die Hard 1 is an action movie yet it's properly executed and so it's successful! Every genre has a good and a bad - Action, Romance, Comedy, Horror, Drama etc. This is bad SO BAD!!! And don't accuse us of snobbery - it's called having a brain.

"Why so serious?"

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I almost agreed with your opinion until you compared 12 Rounds With Die Hard!!!!!

I never once stated that 12 rounds was ultimatly amazing what i said was i've seen a hell of a lot worse and i don't think it deserves the poor reviews it has and for you to compare it with Die Hard!!!! in the words of JOEY STYLES.....OH MY GOOOOOODDDDD.

Cheers you have totally back my point up

What a Muppet

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sono.....your bang on the money mate,i can't elaborate on what you have said as i 100% agree with you,well said...

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Cheers Thank you for backing me up it is much appreciated :)

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sonofjorel316, I'm going to have to disagree with you about John Cena. Now I'm not one of the people you are talking about who immediately fault the movie because he starred in it because I didn't even know who he was before I watched it. I just think he is a bad actor personally. He is way too big to be playing any major role and I'm going to have to say he is a lot of the fault I have in the movie.

But I really don't have many faults because I loved the movie and the plot. I just can't see John Cena as anything but a goof of a role in a movie. Put in Bruce Willis (Die Hard) and you have a blockbuster movie. You're right that it may be dumb but that's movies. People want to see good actors.

Brilliant. So now we got a huge guy theory, and a serial crusher theory. Top notch.

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This bashing of John Cena is really unfair in my opinion. What would you have thought if this had been Bruce Willis in his very first movie when he was a relative unknown? Would you have thought the same thing? Okay, so maybe Cena is not the best actor around, but there have been worse. What Cena needs is more projects in which to hone his skills, and he could very well become another Bruce Willis. In other words, let the guy cross the bridge before you burn it.

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Oh grow up what is the issue exactly? I compared it with what is one of the ultimate action movies simply to give an example of the fact that an action movie can be enjoyable and well done if you don't like that then fine: The Bourne Movies - not my favourite but still , Terminator 2, the first Transformers - not a great movie but entertaining all the same. At the end of the day 12 Rounds was a hopeless attempt at an action movie.

"Why so serious?"

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Now your comparing it with Terminator 2 which had approx 4 times the budget, god you really are an ass.

Just so i make this clear for the budget it had, I think this is a good action film, not amazing not brilliant but not shocking it's a good action film nothing more nothing less.

You'll compare it to LORD OF THE RINGS NEXT!!!!

What a Chump

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What a chump? You're the "ass" and the idiot here because you are completly missing the point. My issue has nothing to do with budget, it has to do with direction and script and in general, story. This piece of *beep* film was a total joke and you are clearly a *beep* moron for defending it and for being so awkward about every single comparison I made. Idiot.

"Why so serious?"

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I thought you said if it had an A list actor it would be raved about.


What we have here is failure to communicate!

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Like another poster, when you launched into ALLCAPS, I kinda lost interest in what you were saying. But it's okay, since I got the basic idea: You like the movie and can't abide someone else not liking it.

Okay.

I saw it last night. I'd wanted to see it since I saw a trailer for it a while back. The trailer made it look cool, full of action and suspense and it seemed like a pretty interesting plot.

As Riff said in West Side Story, "Boy, am I a victim of disappointment in you!"

The first ten or fifteen minutes, where they're building us up to the whole reason The Bad Guy is going to exact his revenge on The Good Guy, seems interminable. I mean, long. Endless. Boring, even. The ***SPOILERS*** FBI double-cross plot, double-crossed by their pawn, double-double-crossed by The Bad Guy..? *yawn* The heavy-handed foreshadowing of The Bad Guy's Girlfriend's untimely demise? *yawn* Am I really supposed to believe that he's such a great cop, such an amazing human being, that he can actually run through the back streets and alleys (and someone's house!) to catch The Bad Guy, who apparently is such a nimrod that he can't simply drive faster than The Running Cop and get out of this neighborhood? Please.

And then finally, thankfully, we're released from the clutches of this tedious pre-story into what I'd hoped would be some thrill-a-minute, pulse-pounding action, or at least some decent suspense, tension, something as a return on my investment. Sadly, it was more of a break-even payout.

John Cena isn't a terrible actor, but he's not a good one, either. It seems like he wanted to be a cross between Bruce Willis and Arnold Scwarzenegger, but he's simply not as cool as either one of them. He doesn't have much to hold the viewer's interest, unless an abnormally square jaw does it for you. He really just doesn't come across as anything more than a bag of muscles. Certainly not a cop, and only barely convincing as a man driven to rescue the woman he loves.

The Bad Guy's Game might have been interesting, except it's obvious to the viewer that The Good Guy will triumph (even if he fails at any one round of The Game) and that The Bad Guy has thought of everything (though not so well that he can possibly win The Game).

I'll say this much: The "twist" at the end (that is, the Real Reason The Bad Guy Is Doing All This) was a little unexpected, pretty well-played and sadly, in the end, predictably foiled by The Good Guy.

So yeah. It's really not that good. A rip-off of Die Hard 3, maybe. But seriously, it's just simply not that good a movie, even if you just take it for what it is. I like mindless action movies, but this one doesn't offer much to make up for its shortcomings. 4/10 at best.

And by the way, it's not snobs on this site that give movies like this a bad name. These movies do that by themselves. The snobs here give this site a bad name.

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I'm getting tired of this "leave your brain at the door/what were you expecting an academy award winner" copout crap. It's possible to make an action movie that requires you to think and has good action at the same time. I can enjoy mindless movies as well but it just seems too many garbage movies these days keep being defended with the above excuse and it's getting tiring.

I'm a WWE fan but god John Cena was so wooden in this movie it was hilarious to watch and the guy who played Miles was hammy. It just felt like a mishmash of other action movies with ripped off scenes from all of them.

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I don't care if a MAJOR film star starred in it, or not. The ever-so commonplaced scenerio of "I have your girlfriend/son/daughter/wife/etc. as a HOSTAGE AND WILL KILL THEM UNLESS YOU DO AS I SAY is very... well... COMMONPLACED AND BORING. The other one is... SAME MOVIE AS "DIE HARD: WITH A VENGEANCE" (more than one word, but my point is just that.) The two movies are alike in that the criminal diverts the LAW into doing things for the sole purpose of setting themselves up for the big sting. Been there, done that... just with different actors. And if George Clooney played in it, I STILL would have given it a VERY LOW rating.

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It's nice to know that this film is dividing so many people, this is what i love about this site

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"Ok so ask yourself why do you really hate this film. I'll tell you why 2 words and 3 letters.

JOHN CENA
WWE.

Why in gods name do people come on this site and say oh it was a rubbish film the acting wasn't up to scratch why? I'll tell you why because the majority of the stupid idiots that come on here think they film critics in the making who probably think by slagging off a film like 12 rounds you'll get noticed and hit the big time of journalistic reporting. ...................

C'mon though it's a mindless action film not an academy award winning feature, it's snobs on this site that give films like this such a bad name.""
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Umm. No. Because it sucked!!! I don't hate John Cena. He's just another action star to me. I'd rather give him a shot than sit through Steven Seagal's latest any day. His acting is no better or worse than The Rock's but he lacks Dwayne Johnson's charm. I think he can expect to have a movie career rivaling his wrestling peer. He looks like he puts some time into his movies and enjoys doing it. I rented this movie because I like Cena and figured he'd do a decent job in an action flick. (I never got to see The Marine).

Nobody cares that wrestlers want to become action stars now. Why shouldn't they? They're built for it and most of today's action movies are total fantasy and comic book stories. Just like WWE wrestling. Aside from bad acting, it's a no-brainer that pro wrestlers should be in movies. WWE wants in on the box office and I say, "let 'em in". They got the money to compete and the athletes and well-known personalities to attract the audience. They just need to work on that last word in their title: entertainment.

The problem with this film is the movie itself. The always inconstent Renny Harlin does a lousy job of throwing scenes together and going against continuity and stretching the boundaries of movie reality. Also the script and dialogue comes off so serious, so the movie ends up being unintentionally and embarrassingly laughable which is never good. At least, Die Hard with a Vengeance, which it rips-off so liberally, had some humor to take your mind off the implausibility of the action (alot of which still makes more sense than 12 Rounds). No one's expecting an Academy Award movie from a genre movie like 12 Rounds. Just entertainment.

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Nice that you used a couple the lines i wrote, as i have stated again and again everyone is entitled to there opinion.

Nice to know i have created a really good link where we can thrash out our differences regarding certain films

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