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Interesting Concept, Incredibly Confusing Execution


I watched the first episode of this and I was sure that the host said that the "runners" (contestants) earned $1,000 for every minute they stayed in the game, provided they won. The game is sixty minutes long, and yet the top prize offered was $50,000, and the winner of the first episode ended up with something closer to $25,000. What did I miss? Even if the full $50K could only be won by grabbing those flags along the game course, that still doesn't add up. If the game is sixty minutes long, and the "exit gate" is only opened at the last two minutes of the game, the winner should be winning at least $58,000 to $60,000. Yet when "runners" were tagged out by "hunters," and the screen showed their potential winnings dropping to zero, it never coincided with the amount of time they'd be running the course. What did I misunderstand?

It definitely is a flawed game. The "hunters" are at an extreme advantage when tracking their prey because they don't have to look for one person. They just need to spot one person...being followed by a cameraman and a sound guy. Indeed, the parameters the "hunters" are allowed to hunt by are never explained. (Are they supposed to somehow ignore the obtrusive camera crews and simply look only for the contestants? Impossible.) And if their sole purpose is to tag people out, why don't they just hover by the exit gate once it's opened and pick people off one at a time? Obviously, the producers are giving the hunters very explicit instructions as to how and when they can tag contestants out. It would be interesting to know what these rules are. The game calls itself a real-live version of a video game. If this was the case, and the ghost monsters pursued me with the same unknown, arbitrary rules, I'd hold the world's record for high score on Pac-Man.

And the footage of the hunters running after their prey often switches to the hunter's perspective, meaning that an inordinate amount of the game is recreated for the cameras at least once. I know most reality shows do some recreating to get the shot they need, but it seems that other shows use this much more sparingly than "Cha$e" does.

It was the first episode. It'll be interesting to see if the show evolves at all to make it more clear to the viewers. Could be an interesting show, but it needs a serious retooling.

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Yes! The camera crew/sound guy following certain contestants is rather problematic for those trying to hide. That was one of my biggest beef with the episode. Hopefully they've change that habit in future episodes. I'm thinking of placing camera crews on roof tops, giving us viewers more of a top view angle. Placing cameras in vehicles (parked or passing by). Placing security cameras throughout the playing field. Or simply have the contestants wear cameras on them like the ones worn by contestants in MTV's Fear.

As for the cash prize. By the time I tuned in I already missed the host explaining how it worked. If it was $1,000 for every minute they survive. They really f'd up there.

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The hunters are apparently following "video game" instructions. They are suypposed to act and move according to a pre-determined set of rules.

Yeah, if the hunters were left to their own wits, they'd all just camp the exit. But that wasn't the case. When the exit was revealed, hunters still roamed the back areas of the game board.

And it wouldn't be hard for them to ignore the camera crews and just follow their "programming." Since the hunters don't receive anything special for catching a player, there's no incentive to break the rules. I wouldn't be surprised if they see camera crews everywhere, and keep walking their "path."

I think a key example would be the dude behind the dumpster early in the game, and the hunter that passed him. There's no way she could have missed the camera crew, but she kept walking anyhow.

As for the prize money... yeah, that was all a head scratcher to me too. When the game started, the money counter in the upper left ran slowly but picked up speed as the game went on. If it's $1k a minute, why would it speed up?


I agree. A very flawed show. Somewhat entertaining but often unclear. I hope they haven't taped too many episodes because I can see how a retool of the rules could make this a great show. It has potential.

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It is ok but how the fck would you hide when the camera crew is right next to you. Give the players helmets with cameras because hiding with the camera crews justs makes the show seem awkward.

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> I think a key example would be the dude behind the dumpster early in the game, and the hunter that passed him. There's no way she could have missed the camera crew, but she kept walking anyhow.

That must be part of the rules that the players and Hunters all agree to. The Hunter pretends to not see the camera crew and must not use information from any source other than his own senses.

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For the money, it looks like it starts slowly and, maybe, exspands to $1K a minute in the end.

That really confused me, too.

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I believe the hunters are instructed to ignore camera crews, and to follow some sort of set path or they're suppose to just wander around while not camping the exit which as we all know is cheap. I think they're suppose to act somewhat robotic and not be cheap (after seeing a camera crew look around 'til they see a runner, not camp the exit/mission place, etc...).

Why not just say it's 25k plus whatever money flags they get? If it opens in the last 2 minutes, then it's just a small difference if they get there a little early, so they should just make it a flat 25k+ to the winner.

I don't see a need for a serious retooling. Why does every show have to spell every little thing out for everyone?

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Why does every show have to spell every little thing out for everyone?


Well I guess you like watching confusing television shows. I know I don't.

This and Estate of Panic should have never been filmed or aired. But since this is the Chase board,

I didn't see any problems with the first episode except I agree. There are camera crew every fuccin where. It would be real stupid for them not to see them or pretend they are not there because thats a form of cheating.

Second, in the second episode, it was obviously fixed to let that bitch win. He just stood there like he was waiting for his prescription while he let that bitch fly right by him.

Its a really confusing show. To me if you can't run your not going to win. Thats just me.

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I think the hunters have to actually see the runners to spot them.

If this show ever comes back, I would love to see the hunters a little less robotic. Like communicating with each other, have coordinated attacks, etc.

I think that would be awesome.

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Watch the original, Japanese version, it's much better for a plethora of reasons.

They get 100 Yen per second, so that would be 6000 Yen per minute, which translates to approximately around 55-60 dollars. It's weird, how japanese celebrities don't seem to be paid nearly as ridiculous amounts of money as american ones routinely do. Maybe that's why the grand prizes of these shows are relatively small.

In an hour, the prize has grown to about 5000 dollars, I can't remember what the grand prizes usually are.

As a sidenote: I saw a similar thing before I found this TV show (the japanese version).

Here's my experience.

I watched an old DVD Magazine, where idol group members run away from press members that want a "Scoop", and if the idols lose, they have to tell the camera something embarrassing about themselves that no one knows, and if they succeed, they get 'gohoubi', a typical reward of a big piece of cake.

It was fun watching the 'scoop' people (who look almost identical to the 'huntars' of the japanese version of this show) be avoided by the idols, until after a lot of cat-n-mouse in a baseball station's interesting corridors and stairs, they eventually got caught (some got the reward, though, because the timer had JUST ran out before they got caught), and there were even small missions!

(The missions were very simple, though)

It wasn't as large-scale or organized as this, but as I watched it all, it seemed like a cool and exciting concept, and I wished there was more of it, and a full TV show - it would be good exercize, and done properly, could be really fun, and I would even love to 'play' this kind of game, trying to hide from a 'terminator' that's mercilessly closing in on you and seeing if I can make it the full 20 minutes or whatever it was.

The idol group was 'Berryz Koubou', The DVD Magazine is number 26, and it was made in 2011. Now that I think about it, it was probably just mimicking this TV show, but it was very exciting to watch.

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