The most pointed line, said by a mother to her son as regard the occupation of Iraq: "You're not going to fight for a country that does not give a damn about you."
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I wish more mothers felt that way. The woman who said that knew what she was talking about.
shareOf course the woman is wrong! Any person who believes that America does not give a damn about them are ignorant and, quick frankly, self-pitying and delusional.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I agree with her. tell that last sentence to the katrina survivors. try to do it with a straight face.
"WHO'S ON TOP & WHO'S ON BOTTOM NOW, huh?! WHO'S ON TOP & WHO'S ON BOTTOM NOW!"
In fact, I am a survivor of Hurricane Katrina. And I'd gladly tell others to their face that they're wrong, especially those in New Orleans, who believe that they were not helped immediately because, as Kanye West said, "George Bush doesn't care about black people." What idiocy. If you truly want someone to blame, blame Ray Nagin, New Orleans' mayor, who knew damn well that the levees were in terrible shape and should have been repaired long before they were.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
If - you - want to join the military Spike Jonze, plse do so, no one is stopping you.
Certain people in New Orleans were helped immediately, others were not and to this day, are still not being helped.
The woman who prevented her son from joining the military because of the Katrina fiasco was well informed. Obviously, you are not well informed.
I will be adding you to my blocked list after I post this msg, because I believe you're incredibly ignorant.
Enjoy your mediocre life.
"you're a smart boy, but you keep very, bad, company"
You are hilarious. Thank you for this wonderful laugh.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
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Nagin is to blame, as is the governor, but that does not exclude bush. You mean bush couldn't handle getting water to survivors because of red tape? He should be in prison! Hopefully you are well taken care of, but I know survivors of katrina of color who were not. I still think it has more to do with the poor than their being black. their being black just helps people to not associate themselves with them. It is much easier to villanize them than to take responsibility.
"WHO'S ON TOP & WHO'S ON BOTTOM NOW, huh?! WHO'S ON TOP & WHO'S ON BOTTOM NOW!"
What inter-generational poor whites (especially in the south) haven't realized is that they ARE blacks (albeit with a few privileges afforded by having a light complexion). You're right, it was as much about class as it was about race. But IMO, you can very rarely separate one from the other. Besides, race isn't genetic it's social (which is why you have the "black" Chinese is South Africa).
As for the mother rebuking the army. I totally agree. Those folks were failed by EVERY level of government and they should be enraged by it. We're busy in Iraq fighting for OIL-not freedom. We rub shoulders with some of the biggest violators of human rights (Saudi Royal Family) because we want their oil. And what's so STUPID about that set up is the military needs to consume that oil to sustain itself so in actuality it's costing us MORE financially and with innocent American lives than it would be to find another energy source. Until this government starts to give a damn about ALL of it's citizens....damn it.
Your belief that the reason for our involvement in the Middle East is because of oil automatically negates your argument.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Usually when someone makes a statement like that, they ELABORATE. I'm all ears =)
shareKey word: usually.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
So translation: You have no reasoning behind your comments. That's fine. But understand you aren't fooling anyone by your simplistic 2-worded responses, lol. If you don't know, you simply don't know.
shareJust because I choose not to argue with a dunce does not negate the fact that I have not only reasoning behind my comments, but also knowledge pertaining to why I made such a comment in the first place. Sorry. Your loss, not mine.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
LMAO, this process of responding to me without a response to the content in question makes you a dumbass hypocrite. You choose not to argue with a dunce but what was this exchange??? LMAO. Like I said pick up a newspaper instead of trying to evade a very simple question and comment. And by the way it isn't my loss-but this was definitely your gain.
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Wrong. It's your inability to address any of the points made, relying instead on assuming a mantle of contempt, that precludes anything you say being taken seriously.
You are so right mermaids998
And if the US is in such a crunch for new warm recruits, then the Senate & Congress should consider a draft to include every class & race, not just those who don't have $$ for college. I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
On the flip side, Gitmo is on it's way to being closed. Hopefully, the next move will be to pull the troops out of Iraq. I'm very excited that our new President actually cares about the people and less about the oil money : )
WOO HOO!!
"you're a smart boy, but you keep very, bad, company"
"On the flip side, Gitmo is on it's way to being closed. Hopefully, the next move will be to pull the troops out of Iraq. I'm very excited that our new President actually cares about the people and less about the oil money : )
WOO HOO!! "
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Spike, you sound misinformed. Everyone is telling you you're wrong and you're just not getting a clue.
Even the government doesn't give a damn about their own G.I.'s. Don't try and tell me different, as I was one!
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Every person that served can be called a veteran, but not every veteran can be called a Marine.
One of the problems is that Spike won't get into the woman's shoes and understand why she says this from her perspective. I don't know how he can't see if from her side after seeing the film, he obviously missed the point. If it wasn't obvious that these people were let down by all in power over them (note: not BESIDE them, but OVER them), there's a basic disconnect happening in the viewing skills of people like Spike.
shareIt was actually one of the best lines of the movie. Do you know that recruits target youth in poverty who really don't have much of a future ahead of them, that means the people who are victims of the system and completely ignored. So the line "why fight for a country that doesn't give a damn about you" is true on so many levels.
shareBest and most accurate line of the whole movie. The US wants to use black soldiers if it means big profits over in Iraq but they don't give a *beep* about them if they're drowning in Louisiana.
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The US doesn't care about any of its soliders... they treat veterans like *beep* ! I agree with the woman in the film 150 percent
shareI'm a black man and my father fought in the army decades ago. There is some historical truth to the mother's statement, so it should not be labeled as "stupid". People tend to forget that black Americans fought in all USA war efforts and sometimes for causes with which they did not agree (slavery), or causes that did not support blacks in America, and often during times when this country treated blacks as second class citizens -- i.e. they could serve in the military, but they were segregated from whites in the military under the old "separate but equal" theory. And as we know all know, "separate but equal" was rarely equal.
I saw this film for the first time last night, and whereas I'm educated and financially comfortable, I can't truly (just my opinion) believe the Katrina relief was race related. I think it was more poverty related and note that there were poor whites shown in the film who were stuck there without help as well. That being said, if an earthquake and tsunami swept through the west side of LA where I live, I do believe the relief efforts would not be anywhere as screwed up as they were shown to be in this film since it's not a poor area -- and maybe(?) FEMA learned something and is now better managed(?). I totally understand the mother's frustrated statement which equates that "the good ole USA" has not always been as kind to blacks (and that's an understatement) as it should have been. And believe it or not, racism does still exist in this country. I just don't think it was prevelant in the Katrina disaster. I noticed that during the film, the husband kept saying "get yourself an education", so maybe he too believe it was the poor that had been left behind -- not just blacks. Again, just IMO.
"I have no idea what it means, but it's forcing me to believe it."