And I'm definately disappointed in the dancers that they chose
I didn't even know this was made but I really was looking forward to seeing the dancing
of course the only one that has made an impression on me as usual [and gotten even more amazing in the past 8 years, which I didn't know was possible]
was Ethan S.
I really don't see how you were disappointed, but to each their own, I suppose. If anything, keep Suzanne's dancing out of this. ;P Sarah Jayne was fabulous.
Tracy
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
well i didn't name anyone in particular [except ethan] just that the whole movies technique was off
but you're right, to each thier own
- CHINESE FIREDRILL YAYYYY!!!
*throw my *beep* out the window*
Yeah, I can understand. I'm really annoyed with Kenny's little, gross fanbase, lol. His accent was killing me and my fiancee the entire time. Rachele was really cute, though.
Tracy
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hahaha yeah he's effin hot, but come on lol
but yeah i've been like training for 15 years, and with a lot of pros so i was excited to see the original center stage
but when this one came out it was just a little disappointing. to me
but whatever lol
- CHINESE FIREDRILL YAYYYY!!!
*throw my *beep* out the window*
OH I AGREE
I'm EXTREMELY disappointed with these dancers. I don't mean to sound harsh, but if that academy was the best in the country, none of those dancers would have been accepted.
The main character's ballet is quite terrible for being "the best": sickled feet, poor arabesque/attitude, she doesn't get on the box of her pointe shoes, etc. Yeah, she can dance awesome in clubs, but who cares if this is all about getting into a BALLET ACADEMY? Where's the ballet?
And the one girl, the blonde one, her dancing was just okay at most.
You'd think after all these years they'd get even more awesome dancers, but this was like 3 steps down!
Ethan S was the redeeming quality, dancing wise.
oh my god thank you!!!!
lol that last part when she was auditioning i was like AHHHH!!!! WHAT THE H*** are they adding into this movie!?
and the blonde was just too tense. but even shoulders on all the dancers.... woah.
i was just sitting there like, if kenny weren't so hot i wouldn't be watching this hahaha
but yes, ethan was amazing, love his feet and the extension in his legs.... ok everything, acting is not up to par but niether are his looks hahah
to be entirely fair, the main character was not supposed to be the "best"--neither was kenny's character (he'd only been doing it for six months, recall). she is supposed to have that intangible performance quality that puts her a cut above and draws the eye that cannot be taught, the "it" factor. she didn't have it for me save for when she was doing her hip-hop thing, and she clearly didn't have it for you, but that was the general idea.
I didn't watch the movie yet, I do want to see it despise the criticism
I know the story and characters aren't that good but I'm more interested to see the dance, specially ballet, according to the people here looks like the ballet is utterly inferior compared to the first movie
Well it was already kind expected by me, in a movie with just one well known clssicaly trained dancer, the others do their best in other styles of dance
the dialogue was truly atrocious. as if it were all written by someone whose day job is making hallmark cards. i was actually able to accurately predict the lines in several instances.
the dancing was weird. kenny wormald is such an incredible hip-hop dancer--i don't see why they didn't just let him cut loose. plot purposes, i suppose. his ballet seemed off (which i guess was the point, he was supposed to be a less polished ballet dancer). conversely, ethan stiefel is such an esteemed ballet dancer--when he did his thing, he was breathtaking. when he was doing some hip-hop in the club, it looked downright bizarre. dunno why they're having the hip-hopper doing ballet and the ballet dancer doing hip hop.
my sentiments EXACTLY!!!!
I'M SO GLAD THERE are DANCERS OUT THERE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!
no, not a dancer. just an observer. for instance, maybe i'm wrong, but kenny's feet during all his pas de deux was as flat as you get and he consequently looked completely graceless. and that's okay--from what i understand, his beginnings were in tap and it changes the way you move, and that's what you get for making a tapper/hip hopper a lead in a ballet film and may have been what they were shooting for. tappers can have a hard time going into ballet and vice versa, from what i'm told.
shareno that's very true
i started out in drill team [ha]
and then switched to dancing when i was 12
but i'll be the first to tell you
i'm a modern dancer and tapper
i can't do ballet, and I can do a little hip hop [theyv'e got me teaching it now] ughh.. haha
but it's very difficult to transition between al of them, and the ones thatcan either work really hard or are naturals period.
The WORST actors in the world!!
I agree about everything- the dialogue, the story, and the dancing! Well ofc except for Ethans.
I couldnt even watch through it all, I fastforwarded a few times and finally I gave up and turned it off.
I was hoping for a similar feel like the original, but this was no go. Such a shame.
"I'd like to keep Spike as my pet"- Illyria, Angel S. 5
OKAY HOLY CRAP
The last audition is just an utter TRAINWRECK
AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL form!
No turnout!
Poor extension!
Poor arabesque!
Poor leaps!
Poor passe!
Sickled feet!
Loose feet!
What was with that pas de chat?!
I had to leave the room.
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Got to agree. Man, the lead girl was just awful. Her hip hop wasn't even good, though she has clearly been hitting the ab roller... I can't believe Ethan is still so amazing, though! But yeah, other than that, the movie was a pretty disappointing piece of crap. Just fine as a Sunday night, Oxygen time-killer, though.
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I was in the first Center Stage, and I have to admit, I was angry when I heard the sequel in the works was "straight to cable." However good the first one was, I knew without quality dancers and a budget, this one didn't stand a chance.
This really was a disaster of a sequel, a total cliche, and they cheaped out on quality everywhere...dancers, choreography, location (Canada for NYC), story, actors...
Some thoughts... Hockey player? Movie: Cutting Edge; Hip-hop/ballet dancer? Movie: Save the Last Dance.
That's extremely rude of you to say. As a dancer in the first movie, I would expect you to be a little more respectful of what goes into making a movie. Insulting every actor, dancer, the choreography, location, etc. is extremely unprofessional, especially if you are involved in the entertainment industry.
Insulting your "fellow" dancers, actors, etc. is extremely immature of you to do, and if I didn't know any better, I would think you were simply bitter that you weren't included in this sequel.
The first Center Stage movie is, by no means, a masterpiece. It has a small cult following, and you just happen to be one of the few who think the way you do. Acting so extremely unprofessional (especially if you truly are involved in the entertainment industry) is a disgrace to those who hired you to participate in the first film.
This movie was meant to be fun, entertaining, and a sweet film, and that's what it was. I'm sure it was never created to win an Oscar (much like your precious original movie) and... don't even start on the actors in the film. They were extremely talented people, and I don't understand your bitterness towards everyone involved.
Your being a "dancer" in the first Center Stage by no means entitles you to more of an opinion than anyone else, myself included. But, since you felt so desperately the need to point it out, I would expect more than a little maturity from you in the "dance" department.
Kelsey
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
Sorry to make you so defensive, but it was a clunker of a sequel. Don't fool yourself. It was horrible. Also, just because I was in the original doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about its sequel, as long as I judge fairly.
Whatever few interesting points the first movie made- and I'm NOT saying it was a great movie- were not in the sequel, and I had hoped for better. The sequel was total formula, completely ridiculous, and mostly a laughable dance movie.
-Banterbackandforth
LMFAO.
You thought she was Sarah Jayne?
Wow.
Try again.
What's in a username? Clearly nothing at all, if the ignorant one refuses to acknowledge the most basic of facts!
Tracy
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
Well, I can only assume that you attempted to call me out by assuming I was Sarah Jayne, which is ludicrous. Since you've corrected your error (and thankfully so, I'm sure Sarah Jayne would have been just thrilled to know she was being confused with me) I can say that is one thing I'm thankful for.
I never said the sequel was amazing, but it wasn't made to win Academy Awards. I don't understand this imaginary standard you've invented to measure the movie by. The first movie was not anything spectacular, and I'm glad you can admit that. It had dancing (and coincidentally, you in it!) and that was it.
To say a sequel is "formula" is rather redundant, isn't it? There are no (you heard me!) no new plots left. Every plot, in one way or another, has already been made, and this feat was accomplished many years ago.
I am not, in any way, fooling myself. I'm not putting the sequel up on a pedestal, but I am questioning your integrity as an entertainer. It does not take a great film genius to recognize that what you said was disrespectful. In my personal experience, anyone who has any sort of respect for what they are doing does not automatically badmouth everyone who tries to do the same thing.
And I never said you couldn't have an opinion about the sequel, I simply stated that you do not get an elevated opinion, which is what you were, in my eyes, attempting to do. Judging fairly does not consist of using terms such as "disaster". If critiquing is your cup of tea, I would highly suggest researching exactly what the word "critique" consists of, because injecting your opinion into an article is not called critiquing.
I understand your point of view, but wish that you knew how to accurately input your opinion into a post without badmouthing everyone involved in a project.
Kelsey
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
Listen, I don't get an elevated opinion because I was in the first movie, but I DO get an elevated opinion because I went through the School of American Ballet, and I'm now a professional dancer! That's what this story is about, so I know if it rings true or not. This movie doesn't at all.
Secondly, I don't know what you expect from movies, but I expect at least some bit of integrity. It's how I "measure" most things in life, and why I am where I am. This mediocre movie had none. That's not an "automatic" response. I saw the movie. It was a shoddy sequel just to do one.
AND- I never said I was "critiquing" this movie. This is my opinion and what this board is for!
You're an idiot.
I'm an idiot?! You're *beep* hilarious. I'm not the one who thought I was fighting with Sarah Jayne Jensen. Jesus Christ, grow up. Just because I think it's moronic of you to insult every single aspect of a film because you think it's bad, when you cherish the first one like Christmas morning makes me anything but an idiot.
You're funny.
Kelsey
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
Get off your high horse.
No one cares. Self-advertisement really doesn't elevate your opinion, at all. Your opinion is the same as everyone else's.
Now, bring me the "creator" of ballet, and we'll talk.
Tracy
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
Banterbackandforth,
I am an ex-ballet dancer and I agree with you. This movie was not up to par with the professionalism and exceptional dancers that the School of American Ballet produces. The dancing was just totally not believable for portraying such a "prestigious" school. Like you said, I expected some integrity too!
I measure ballet on how GOOD IT IS and this sequel was clearly just terrible because of it.
every story has to be measured by the intentions of the author.
if i choose to make a story about amateur dancers, you cannot "change" the story to be about good dancers simply because that is closer to your tastes. then it's not the author's story anymore; it's yours.
the lead female had no formal dance training. the male lead had 6 months. there are few, if any dancers alive today, who would look like ABT dancers with just 6 months of trainig or none at all. that was the set up of the story. was that a mistake, in light of its predecessor? should they have just called it something else, not center stage 2, and thereby lift it of those constraints? yes, probably, but there it is.
Your respect for the "original" movie is clearly shown in your blatant bashing of its successor. I'm not asking you to like it; I'm asking you to show some decency. If your first movie was so holier than thou, in your opinion, so be it. I'm not here to argue with you and sway your opinion. I'd just watch what you say, because you never know who'll see it. And, as a human being, I know you wouldn't have the gall or audacity to say such critically demeaning things to a staff or performer's face. The internet gives people that ridiculous sense of anonymity. I'd highly suggest rethinking your posts next time. If you're going to say you don't like something, say it respectfully. Guilty as charged, I don't always do this, but I certainly try, because I know that my post is worldwide--ANYONE can see it. Just be respectful. That's all.
Hate/dislike/whatever it as much as you want, just remember what I said.
Tracy
http://www.freewebs.com/sarahjaynejensen
to be perfectly clear, i'm not a huge fan of this movie.
however, one should give credit where credit is due. kenny wormald is a successful dancer by any measure. he toured with justin timberlake. now, that may not be your cup of tea (it's not mine either) but there it is. the movie made a mistake by tapping into his ballet skills, which are quite obviously inferior to his hip-hop skills, but there it is (for that matter, the movie should have strictly been ballet to be unique, as hip-hop ballet movies are a dime a dozen nowadays. be that as it may). what he does may not be your cup of tea, but it still takes skill and dedication. a different sort of skill and dedication than ethan stiefel et al. i mean, kenny will never be the ballet dancer that ethan is, but it's clearly not the career path he's chosen. conversely none of the dancers from the first film will ever be the hip-hopper that he is. and that should be okay. *shrug*
and, for the record, cody green, who didn't dance much in the movie, is going to be riff in the broadway revival of west side story. the lad was also a lead in twyla tharp's movin' out on tour, london, and on broadway (which requires some skill), and i hear she knows a thing or two about dance.
yeah, i agree. the technical aspect of ballet in itself wasn't as on par as it was in the original Center Stage movie...but I get why, I mean the film-makers wanted to show the more hip hop side of dancing...
i really wish it would have been more-so centered on ballet because there are so many hip hop movies i think i might kill the next choreographer who pitches another crappy dance movie with NO story-line what-so-ever to some hollywood big-shot with lots of cash...but...whatever.
i liked this movie much more than Step Up and Step Up 2, but the original Center Stage will ALWAYS be my favorite dance oriented film.
firstly, in my opinion every person should have the right and ability to critisize without being bashed by others who think otherwise. Now that that's done, about the movie....
ughh... It was completely insulting. To think that cooper would stand up for kate into letting her into the company? COME ON GET REAL, Ethen in real life wouldnt think twice about letting a dancer like that into the most prestigious dance school in the country. She would never even have gotten the glass slipper, kate's technique is horrible, and yes I know she was supposed to have no formal training, but in real life a person with no formal training and that bad technique would never have gotten such a big role. And that's why it's so insulting, because I, who work my ass off to get to parts like these, am told that you don't really need the time, money, training, and i hate to break it to you, the body, which kate in the movie didnt have.
This movie is based on lies, to get people like kate to makebelieve that they can make it big, or just out of sympathy.
The ballet world is not like this< the ballet world is the first center stage
Like all the other dancers here have said: the technique was atrocious. It was insulting to any trained dancer to even try to pass it off like it was ok! I'm sorry, in ballet, you need training (no matter how many dance videos you watch, you will never get the correct training unless you see a teacher). Not only was the dancing bad but the acting was 5 times as worse than any other dance movie I've seen (this includes "You Got Served") The only person I enjoyed seeing on screen was Kenny Wormald (even though his ballet is not up to par either)!
All in all, this movie is just one of the worst movies I've seen and was not enjoyable because of all that was wrong with it. There were a few moments and I'm not going to deny those moments but they don't make up for the rest of the movie.
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Over the top unbelievable.
I think trying to squeeze a fairytale of minimally trained dancers and a prestigious ballet school into the same film just didn't make sense.
The fairytale of the untrained but passionate dancer is nice to watch - and perhaps her getting into a ballet production would have been great - but I think it would have been more realistic if she got a lesser part in the Glass Slipper and was portrayed as being successful for doing so. That would have made more sense. I guess they wanted to parody Cinderella by taking her from nothing to everything in one wave of a magic want.
It is almost as though they wanted to squeeze the ballet school in so that they could make it a sequel to the original movie rather than a stand alone film. It didn't really advance the plot in any substantial way. If anything for me it cheapened the whole movie. I guess when I see a top ballet school in a film I want to see how hard they work, what they go through, and some sublime dancing. This was all missing from this film.
Wow, you prima ballerinas sure are hard to please. May I ask what you thought about Black Swan?
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Avatar. Most expensive kiddie cartoon ever.
This movie wasn't meant to be a technical film on how to dance or a literary masterpiece. It's called "entertainment"... Something which people forget when they look at films like these.
I am an archer and have been taking coaching lessons for over two years now. My technique has improved greatly and can shoot pretty well now. I pick holes in the Robin Hood movies/tv series, Avatar and Hunger Games, yet I can still enjoy those movies for entertainment.
I've seen some stinkers of films too but to me, this isn't one of them, however it's not in my top 10 either but I do like it. To each their own I suppose.
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