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i don't understand the hate some people have for this film

posted 11 years ago by xjaguarx2005
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it gives us exactly what we want:
1. the same repeated story that they've all been doing
2. graphic and interesting deaths (which is, admit it, the real reason we watch these movies)
3. tons of laughs at plot holes
4. the same stock characters each movie has (the sceptic, the scared one, the non-believer turned believer, and the main lead who has the premonitions)

sure it wasn't as complex as the others, but to me, this one had the most laughs, and once you've hit the 4th film in a repeating horror franchise, what can you expect? and i know FD 5 was a little more complex, but i still had a ton of fun with this film and love watching it with a group. we laugh all the way through

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[–] mjn-seifer 11 years ago

Some people didn't like the CGI, even though most of it went by far to quickly for us to see. I've also heard people complain about unrealistic deaths (in an FD moive, seriously?) ironically most a lot of deaths in TFD have actually happened (although, they are exagerated in the movie).

My favorite Final Destination is the 4th – DEAL with it!

[–] sam_orozco2002 11 years ago

i have watched them all, and this along with part 3 were the weakest ones from the series. now what i hated about this one was that the death looked too fake. they didn't live up to how real it looked in the 2nd film (which is my personal fav. from the group). the cgi just looked like crap. i also didnt' like that the story didn't move forward like in the 1st, 2nd, or even 5th movie.

the first movie you learned the rules, and why it's happening. the 2nd movie you thought maybe there's a way to beat it (which they came close, but at the end didn't cheat death).

the 3rd part i felt was a step backwards with bringing back a bunch of high school kids. i hate horror movies with high school kids. they are always so annoying that you hope that the killer does kill them in a gruesome way. but anyways it felt like a bit of a rehash of part 2 but not done as good. they brought nothing new to the series as part 1 and 2 or even 5 did.

part 4 didnt move the story alone at all. no where were they close to stoping death design or bringing in a new twist to the series. if anything it felt like they were just trying to do a gorefest with laughs which kills the suspense, and the atmosphere of the other films. along with generic characters that no one cares about, which if no one cares about the characters no one cares about their deaths.

part 2 has the best cast because they made you think it's gonna be about a bunch of stupid high school kids, which they kill off right in the first 15 min's then you find out that the real cast is full of different people of different races and ages that make them all unique and easier to remember who they are and what they are about.

so these are some of my problems with part 4 and 3. oh yeah i forgot, part 4 was suppost to be the end of the series. if that was true, how pissed should you and any fan of the series be that at the end of the series nothing is explained, death was never beaten, why did that grave yard dude know so much? was he death? none of this was explained or hinted at in part 4. what a horrible end to a series if this was the last movie of the series.

[–] mjn-seifer 11 years ago

Death was explained to some extent in part four, and at least this design (the one started by Alex in FD, since FD5 didn't exist at the time) was beaten, by Death himself. I agree on them not explaining Bludworth though (who didn't even appear in TFD).

My favorite Final Destination is the 4th – DEAL with it!

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[–] mjn-seifer 11 years ago

Me?

My favorite Final Destination is the 4th – DEAL with it!

[–] ChemicalInsomnia 11 years ago

I know I would be totally okay with this movie if they just changed the category to comedy.

[–] longcooljolie 11 years ago

Changing the category to "comedy" would be fine. This movie is a satire and manages to poke fun at NASCAR and NASCAR audiences, and slasher movies and slasher audiences. There is also social commentary with the way the redneck tow truck driver gets it.

The deaths were pretty cartoonish, especially the auto shop guy who gets slammed against a fence and square chunks of his flesh fall off, toward the camera. Yet, they fit in with the style of the rest of the movie.

In real life, getting ground up like a piece of meat in the gears of an escalator would be one of the worst ways to die, right up there with getting slowly burned or skinned alive.

FD 4 or "The Final Destination" reminds me of how "Batman Forever" compares with the two Tim Burton Batman movies that preceded it or (and I'm dating myself here) how Superman 3 compares with Superman and Superman 2.

Fans of the FD franchise really seem to hate it, though.

[–] ScorpionTDC 11 years ago

1. 1, 2, and 5 all had original takes on the story
2. You forgot to mention dumb concepts and bad CGI
3. When did 1, 2, 3, OR 5 feature plot holes? TFD featured tons
4. 1, 2, and 5 didn't feature that many stock characters. "Main lead who has the premonition" is a role, not a specific character type. Alex from 1 and Wendy from 3 are different, just like how Clear, Burke, and Kevin are all different. Etc. So no, the characters weren't all the same as previous ones

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[–] mjn-seifer 10 years ago

Aside from possibly the cowboy dying after Hunt being a plothole (which I now know it is, despite originally believing otherwise) can you give me other examples of plotholes? I don't think Janet dying first at the cinema counts, as Nick getting Lori to leave her seat, and Lori stopping him from running back into the cinema (though the latter is pushing it) could count as skipped deaths.

Could you be more specific on "dumb concepts".

[–] rocketrider231 9 years ago

Why did the cowboy die? He wasn't affected at all by Nick's vision in the beginning, so it must have been death's plan for him to survive.

But really, you mean to tell me that:
An engine that weighs a ton would have been launched far enough to land on someone in audience
A piece of metal from the crash would have been flying at a projectile fast enough to completely cut two people in half
A tire would have been launched high enough to land over the walls of the stadium
A can of beer would have put the racist's car in drive
A rock launched by a lawnmower would have shot through a woman's head after breaking through a window
A pressurized air tank has enough to cut through the human skeleton with a wired fence
An overflowing bathtub would have filled up an entire room and would have broken through the floor
A pool filter would have the power to completely suck someone's innards into a pipe
and Janet's car would have been totally airtight?

I mean, I totally get suspending disbelief, but holy crap lol

[–] ThoseLittleRabbits 9 years ago

the poor special effects, the terrible acting, and the unlikable characters (except for the two lead guys, and the black guy).

i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

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[–] honeymoonavenue 9 years ago

FD 1, 2, 3, & 5 are genuinely creative, witty, intelligent, well-crafted films.

FD4 is unbelievably lazy and has zero intellect or production values. It is unintentionally ridiculous and thoughtless, rushing through every scene, filling the screen with one-dimensional characters (acted TERRIBLY.) that we don't ever feel like we get to know, having no creative death scenes (just people quickly getting split in half and such), throwing away the aspect of the characters trying to discover answers/warnings/mythology about death's design and just lazily killing people off without any thought put into anything else.

In the other films, each death scene had a great build-up, leading us one way and then surprising us with something else. FD4 tried to do this, but the peoples' actual deaths had nothing to do with their set up, and instead of creatively tying a specific person's death into everything that had been built up, he/she is just offed in a quick, random, ridiculous way that totally disregarded the build-up.

Not to mention terrible dialogue, no atmosphere, a cheesy/hokey tone, and the overwhelming feeling that it was probably originally written by a 12-year-old boy who didn't understand that having people quickly and gruesomely die isn't all that it takes to make a FD movie.

With that said, it's a fun film, but definitely not a quality one.