Totally Inaccurate


The only thing they got right about Kemper was the glasses! This movie was set in present times. Kemper was active during the 70's! Kemper was a giant - 6ft 9 weighing over 250 pounds. The guy playing Kemper was a short nerdy 5ft 7 guy! Kemper never hanged around with any detective investigating murders and there was certainly no manhunt for him, as he actually gave himself in before the cops had any leads! With these inconsistencies - how can you base the movie on any actual events? This character and movie is all fiction.

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Interesting, I'm just now finding out there's a movie about Kemper. It happened in my hometown, but it says it was filmed in Australia?? Anyway, what's some good sites for info on Kemper?

"And this is me showing a bag of apples who's boss..." - Homer

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Didnt know it was filmed in Australia. You can hardly notice. I dont know about any sites about Kemper, just do a google search, im sure there will be an official site about him. If you want to see video footage of Kemper, then try to find a copy of the documentary 'The Killing Of America' where he is interviewed for a good 10 minutes.
Ive also heard you can write to him at his prisons email address!

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It wasn't shot in Australia. Good ol' Los Angeles, CA. Not sure where that rumor started.

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Don't expect this movie to tell you ANYTHING about Edmund Kemper. At least, nothing real. This movie is a piece of fiction. The original poster is absolutely correct about the movie. I was disappointed. I believe the true story would make a good movie. But this movie is NOT it.

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And his name is Edmund, not Edward as stated in the hospital files.
Look here: http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/Lokeloverno1/Bild2.png?t=1225473049

He was in his early 20's when he killed the co-eds, his mum and her friend - not as old as the guy in this film.

He was 15 when he killed his grandparents and din't do it when they were sleeping.

They also forgot about the moustache … but hey, they got a guy who looks like Woody Allen, so I don't think that we should be that picky.

He never took hostages either.

What's with the nail polish?

Possibly an error made by a character, but Ed's mum didn't have Kemper as her last name but Strandberg, at least at the time she was killed. ADD: She was called "Ma Kemper" in the credits.

The whole 666 nonsense … there was only one head buried facing his mother's bedroom window.

He never shot a cop.

I could go on with this and I haven't even finished the damn thing yet …

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Ok, now I've finished it.

Last supper talk? *smacks head*

What an awful film! Yet "Woody" did a really good job as a killler … not Kemper though. I'd like to see him take on a part in a movie with a solid script and a better director.

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Agreed, ignorant of its origin story to the point of being an insult to anyone who bothers to read a book. Worse still, this aside it doesn't even stand up as a good film on its own merit (for people who don't know the case).

Very poor.

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Have you shot a film before? Or are you just a critic/cynic? You do what you can given the ingredients you have to work with...at the end of the day, you walk away knowing you did your job for that day, it might not be as you saw it, or wanted it to be, but sometimes you just have to bite your lip. But, why put down the film? Does it make you feel better that you voiced your negativity? Like anything, everyone has a different interpretation, I can respect a dialogue that encourages not one that is blatantly negative. If you have bought the film, I will reimburse you for it, how's that?

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I don't need to be a barber to recognise a bad haircut. I don't need to be a chef to know when I've been served a bad meal. And I certainly don't need to be a film maker to grasp what a flimsy piece of work this was.

It fails on almost every level. It is inaccurate without being captivating in its revision of fact. It is competantly shot but utterly without flair or finesse. The dialogue is turgid, mouthed by clearly unmotivated actors, seemingly undirected. Isn't bad enough to be fun camp, isn't inept enough to be a guilty pleasure, and isn't nearly, by a country mile, possessed of anything redemptive enough to justify you taking the time to defend it. Even if you made it.

Your mileage may vary.

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I can certainly appreciate your response both this time and the last time to the film. To clear one thing up, no, I didn't make it, nor would I have put any money into it, or directed it unless their was enough money behind it to make it at least a film that you throw in every now and then.

I will say that the the term "motivation" has so many meanings here....what was his or hr motivation within the scene? were they just lazy, and didn't do their work, which caused the director to give up on them? was theri motivation ourely money/pay check driven? or......was the script strong enough to support a term such as motivation? my answer, no.

people enjoy power....they indulge in it in many ways, they exhibit it in many ways....and in Hollywood, that's all that seems to matter to most. would you die for your job?

my friend i am not saying that you are incorrect to feel the ay you did, or do...I was simply pointing out that , I wish we could just bite our lips sometimes, as their really isn't anything to gain by voicing negativity...sure it feels good short term...but what kind of affects does it have in the long run????

for some, it's a dream come true just to see a movie being made let alone being n one...but i can tell you this, they aren't as fun and glamorous as they are made out to be.

be well, take care....

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it stops people like me from wasting my time on a crap movie

so thank you for complaining about it being crap I will watch a diffrent movie now

just because I can't spell does'nt mean your right

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My friend, the artist can not close off his/her mind to anything...how can one learn from only great and flawless works of art?? If one did that than they would only be a copy cat.....but if one can put themselves through the drudgery of something that is flawed, and use that as a lesson, an educational tool to search and learn, then they are opening their minds to things that most people will shut off immediately...it is this which makes the mind an infinite place....

I noticed that you did a music video...a cover of an Oasis tune....now I could sit here and critique that work, but why? what will i get out of that? i don't want to discourage a young artist, nor do i want to deflate or inflate ego or expectations...but i will say, that it wasn't great, nor was it horrible....but you didn't understand the song, and in order to understand the song, you must understand the writer of that song and when and where they were when they wrote it, what was happening in their lives at that time etc....

Look my friend, I wouldn't sit here and respond to you if i didn't care, I want all to pursue their dreams and ART...as it is the channel to CHANGE....but just do me a favor, keep your mind open....I agree with you about the film, it's not great, and if it were mine I would have done many things differently, but it wasn't and that's that.

Keep plugging away....hard work will pay off....but remember, "there is no room for ego in ART..."

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It is a piss poor film. To be honest, I watched 30 minutes of this and turned it off in disgust. If they're going to use a story of Ed Kemper, then they should make it FACTUAL. I know more about the case than the writers and directors, and I've only read half a chapter (roughly) from the book Whoever Fights Monsters by legendary FBI profiler Robert Resseler.

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Brother,

I am not going to respond to these negative comments anymore....there is enough negativity in the world....i was hoping that you would see that I was trying to get you to look past the film and into ART and that not all art is great....2001 Space Odyssey-the audience including some of the best directors today walked out of the theatre....Van Gogh never sold a painting until he was dead.....

You may know the story, but that is from a book, you have not spoken to ED Kemper, so again, it's all heresay...in this case it was the directors vision, and its his vision that must be served...otherwise you will have anarchy on set.

I wish you the best....everything is beautiful if you really look hard enough!

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I assume that this post is directed towards me … please use the reply function next time as I get a notification by mail every time someone replies to my posts.

Your point is that one shouldn't critizise flawed films because something can be learned from them and that you can't learn from great and flawless works of art without being a copy cat?
First of all, is there such a thing as a flawless film (does "flawed" even equal "bad"), and if your copy cat theory should apply, movies that every one think of as flawless.
For example:
I recently watched The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and really liked it (as did many others) and thought it worked well with its slow tempo when some people on the internet seems to hate it because of this and calls it boring. If I learn from it I'm a copy cat, just because I really liked it when someone who didn't like it isn't?
The reason that I brought that movie up is that if I made a movie on Edmund Kemper I'd draw inspiration from movies like Assassination to emphasis on his love for John Wayne and the western-genre and thus try to bring the audience closer to the mind of Kemper.

You mention my Wonderwall video and just asume that I don't want critique, but what if I do? How can there be improvement without critique and all criticism isn't negative, mind you. The song wasn't the most important thing for me making the video (that was to get familiar with the camera and Final Cut) and I'm not an Oasis-fan so I don't really know what Noel had in mind but wikipedia says this:

It is often claimed that "Wonderwall" was written for Gallagher's then-girlfriend, Meg Mathews. Noel married Mathews in 1997, but the couple divorced four years later. Gallagher now claims that the song was not about Mathews at all, but he felt he had to go along with the rumour, saying "The meaning of that song was taken away from me by the media who jumped on it. How do you tell your Mrs it's not about her once she's read it is? It's a song about an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself." It also can refer to Swati.

Based on that I'd say that the meaning of the song could be disscussed for quite a while … and who says that Noel was 100% truthful when he denied the rumor?

I'm afraid that I don't share your quite nihilistic point of view when it comes to criticism. I love reading reviews and gladly watch "At The Movies" – only the older reviews with Roger Ebert, Gene Siskel and Richard Roeper, though – and I like them a lot even when they don't happen to share my point of view.

What's annoying with this movie is that it doesn't even seem like an artistic attempt to change anything but more like a way to earn money by using the name of Ed Kemper in the title when the movie itself has very little to do with the actual events. Getting his name wrong is just lazy. It's funny that they got the name of the hospital right but not the name of the main character.
I think that the main reasons serial killer movies can be this bad are that none of the killers they're based on could possibly sue the makers (who the hell would care if Edmund Kemper felt insulted by this movie, if he even knows about it) and that people still buy the "based on a true story"- thing and a fancy dvd-cover.

"there is no room for ego in ART..." – Funny, I always thought it was quite the opposite.


EDIT: Ok, just found out that you're in the move – sorry if I offended you or so, my main problem with this movie is not the acting but the inaccuracy of the script, poor dialouge ect. I don't blame you for being in it either, an actor has to eat and pay bills just like the rest of us and some of my favourite actors (Jeremy Davies, Brad Dourif and Ted Levine) has been in some real stinkers.
Oh, and did you know that they didn't just get Kemper's name wrong, they also misspelt the name of Robert Sisko (who also did a fine job) in the end of the trailer. I think that's disrespectful towards the actors and shows that movies like this is all about making money rather than art.
Good luck with the acting, btw!

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To all:

I am a filmmaker (two features, three shorts) and I can say without question:

THIS MOVIE IS A PIECE OF CRAP!

Thank you.

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so work on your own version, hollywood is remake queer cause they have NO IDEAS!

Show the world, do it right!



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I actually just almost paid to watch this and you saved me from wasting my money. I hate inaccurate "true" stories. Thanks a million!!

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This movie was nothing but crap.

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