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There was a 9 year old!!


Okay in my town this movie is 14A so if you're 14 you can get in but anyone younger needs an adult with them. So I'm 14 and went and seen this with my whole family. Mom,uncle,grandma,sister and my siter's friend(17 and 16). There were other 14 year olds and stuff. As I'm leaving the theatre I seen a 9 year old walk down the stairs with her dad. She had a Hannah Montana shirt and everything. Plus this was the late show so like starts 9:50 end at midnight kinda thing.

I'm not one to discriminate parenting but I thought was pretty bad.

I'm 14 and thought this movie was pretty sexual for 14A.

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What the hell is wrong with people?

I remember when I went to see The Mummy 3 last summer, these stupid parents brought 2 YOUNG kids to a 10pm showing- the oldest couldn't have been more than 5 or 6. Not surprisingly, the movie scared them, they started crying, I had to go get the manager because of the noise complaint and they got kicked out. Morons.

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What a shame, I would have been all over THE MUMMY 3 had I seen it at that age.
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And everyone wonders what the deal is with the kids today! I strongly believe 14 is way too young for this movie. Shame on your parents and relatives for bringing you along. What was it, family movie night? What happened to staying home and popping popcorn and watching a movie w/o crude language and vulgar sexual content? The ugly truth is this genaration of parents is the problem. Start having some accountability for how your kids turn out and the kind of people they grow up to be! I have two young girls and my job is to protect everything that they consume, be it what they eat or drink, what they read, what they watch, or what they hear. The nine year old sounded like the smartest person at that movie! At least she was wearing a Hannah Montanna shirt and not one that said "my boyfriend thinks I'm hot"!

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I don't think, that any 14-year-old teenager would be shocked from this movie. :)

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Jesus! Relax, take it easy... I was twelve and I was watching movies with explicit sex scenes, and I'm not sleeping around or cursing for no reason, and am in no way screwed up in the head. Once my family and I were going to watch a movie and I looked at its box and saw that it said PG18 (I think you say R-rated, right?), and I told my dad, kind of joking, my sister and I weren't supposed to see that movie... and he said "I trust that you are mature enough to realize those are things those people are doing at certain ages and for certain reasons" and he was right to trust me on that. Sheltering 14 yr olds from a world where there's sex and cursing words will only mystify that world and make it sound more appetizing than it really is... Fourteen years is a more than appropriate age to see this movie...! In my country twelve is the minimum age, and it is the PG I'd give this movie, and not because there's sex and swear words I would think it entirely unsuitable for younger kids, but because they wouldn't really get the jokes and get bored!
What I don't agree with is taking small kids that get scared easily to see the mummy or Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince, because then they're going to start crying and ruin my experience of the movie...!

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Start having some accountability for how your kids turn out and the kind of people they grow up to be! I have two young girls and my job is to protect everything that they consume, be it what they eat or drink, what they read, what they watch, or what they hear.
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It sounds like you're bit of a controlling mom...
If you're really going to try to protect your children from everything that resembles reality than they're in for a big wake up call the minute they set out for their lives. Your job is to raise them and by doing so to prepare them for what's out there, not protect them from every single thing there's out there so that they'll never really know anything about real life... One thing is to set up a filter on the internet so no porn sites or pedophilia networks can be accessed, another is to deprive them from a romantic comedy that addresses sexual issues that are very current. How else are they supposed to know how to live their sexuality properly if they've never faced the issue at all by the time they start having their first crushes?
This movie is actually a great lesson in that topic, proving that people should go for affection rather than lust - I think that's a message I'd give my kids (if I were old enough to have them).

(And your job is to protect them from everything they consume, not protect everything they consume. forgot your words :P)

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Uh hello. There's ratings for a reason! And don't pull the "outdated" card because ratings didn't come into effect until 1984.

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Ratings are for stupid people. So some country decide that movie is appropriate for a 10 years old, while other decide that is OK only for adult. Who is right?

The truth is that no one will be hurt. It is just a movie.

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*beep* A man...you nailed it right on the spot...IT'S JUST A MOVIE, when will people realize this? even if it's a movie based on true events or a true story, doesn't make it any realer because it's still JUST A MOVIE. If I have a kid, i'll him/her to see a raunchy NC17 comedy at age 3 and up. They need to learn about the world at a young age, not when they're 9 or 10, that's wrong, they'll never get in life learning that late. I'll put HIV/AIDS warnings into thier heads once they know english.

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Ratings are for stupid people. So some country decide that movie is appropriate for a 10 years old, while other decide that is OK only for adult. Who is right?

The truth is that no one will be hurt. It is just a movie.
Oh boy, where to start.

So, "XXX" rated porn - that's 'just a movie', right - that's also not going to hurt anyone, not even the 9-year-old watching it? "Mummy, what's that man doing now? Why's she sucking that, Daddy?" Hmmm?

And you'd like your eight-year-old to watch "300", "Troy", or "Saving Private Ryan", with gallons of blood splatters, violent amputation and so on, because, impressionable as she is, it's 'just a movie'.

And that's what's wrong with society today. Not crime, not disrespect, not porn or violence: Parents who are too F)(&^ING LAZY to PARENT. Ratings are for stupid people, indeed. So they really, really apply to you, then.

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Looking at a rating, and plopping your child down, is NOT parenting. I hold at the end of the day parents should be spending TIME with their children. Communication is important, not necessarily what is in front of their face.

Although at least you're not being a hypocrite. I hate the people that take issue with sexual issues, but have no problem with violence. At least sex is something every person, in general is going to experience.

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What a naive post. Little kids do not have the foundation or the context to understand adult material and visuals. The ratings are there because you need a general sense of the content to be able to decide whether to take your kid or yourself for that matter.

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The general public needs ratings so they can stop thinking about what and what would not be appropriate to watch for their child.
I always thought all kids are different, especially in maturity.
I've grown up in a ratings-free zone and my parents had brains enough to not let me watch Nightmare on Elmsstreet when I was 10 but were ok with me watching some love and chickflick movies. Come on, do you really believe the girls getting pregnant at 14 are the ones watching that kind of movies too early? What's happening? They kiss each other, omg how awful! ;-)

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by - alexiswer on Sun Aug 30 2009 15:00:02
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Uh hello. There's ratings for a reason! And don't pull the "outdated" card because ratings didn't come into effect until 1984.



Yeah, because someone else thinks they can parent better than you can.

I've let my daughter see a lot of movies that someone else might consider "inappropriate", but it has not hurt her one bit. She is mature and intelligent. She is in honors classes, is a great kid, and will graduate college at 20.

The truth is, you don't have to follow society's rules and norms, because who says some MPAA ratings employee knows more than you do about what's right for your kids? Keep communicating with your child, explain to her what she sees in the movies in a mature, adult manner, and she will most likely be just fine.

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Mbeloc, you're smarter than all these fusspots who wrap their kids in cotton wool. Sounds like your parents are too. :)

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I've said this already in another post... in Europe you are allowed to curse on national television. if it is really hardcore the presenters might pretend they are shocked but all the tv stations have the chance to cut it and they didnt (they never do!).

the european movie rating to this movie was that everyone could see it in sweden (& norway i believe), people with 10yo and over (switzerland) and 12 and over (portugal and netherlands). do you think that *beep*, *beep* *beep* cock and all those words, people of 14yo have never heard it or think that they're parents never say it? honestly?...

I guess that i am too liberal then, because I'd prefer (1million times) that my kids would watch a movie full of curses (not horror movies that would scare them) but that they'd hear people laugh about it than to support the «hanah montana-brainwash» and then when she starts collecting boyfriends (like the whole jonas bros & the infinity and beyond) and releases a home-made porn, parents start saying... no honey that has stopped being acceptable.

showing that a certain behaviour can be funny is so much safer than to 'sell' kids to any person (who obviously is capable of being a Saint and the Satan)!

youngsters dont make mistakes, they try new things n besides, brains r overrated!

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You people have to be some of the most prudish socially backward people I've ever seen. But then you're probably mostly American which would make sense in a twisted sort of way. America is the biggest cesspool of contradiction you're likely to find. What ever happened to the idea of this so-called American "freedom" that everyone loves to spout off about? Or the right of parents to dictate what is and is not proper for their own children to watch.

If some of you are an example of the kinds of parents out there today....it is no wonder that the age of rebellion is increasingly getting younger and younger. You think watching a movie is going to corrupt children into thinking about what you in your twisted perception is "naughty" or "inappropriate"? I can assure you they don't need movies for that. It's already in their minds and they ARE thinking about things that you couldn't even fathom.

Wake up and stop living in this puritanical delusion that you've seem to have built up around yourselves.

Talk to your kids, find out who they are, you'll be surprised at what they know...and maybe they can even teach you a few things.

/rant mode off

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To be honest sometimes I think people need to relax more. Its not what your kids are watching. I can almost promise you that, its how much conversation you have with your kids about what they are watching. I don't think the problem is that parents allow their children to watch questionable selections, its that they do not communicate with their children, beyond barking orders or babying.

My parents were young when I was growing up. They are only in their mid-40s now. I grew up on MTV, 90210 and Melrose Place, later came Friends etc. These programs did not hurt me, nor affect me negatively. To be honest I've re-watched some episodes, and I realized the majority of the material went right over my head.

I think the major difference was, when I had questions, my mother answered them honestly. Sex wasn't taboo. It was a natural part of life, that was going to happen. So we talked about it. My brother is 18months younger, and he would hear it too.

For example I remember catching the waterfalls video on TV by TLC. I liked the song, I had no idea what the song or the video was about. My mom asked if I understood what they were talking about and I of course said "no". That was when she told me about HIV/AIDS and safe sex, the dangers of doing drugs, etc. It wasn't the ONLY time it was talked about, but it was the first. And it wasn't treated as a big deal, like "THE TALK". I think I was maybe 9 or 10. So even though, I wasn't completely sure what sex actually was, but I knew that if you didn't want to get sick from it, you had to use a condom.

My brother and I both grew up to have open relations with our parents. We never got in trouble in high school or college. We were both honor students, and I was a virgin till I got married. So its not necessarily what your kids are watching, its if you're actually being a parent and talking to them.

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Sheltered kids are the ones with the problems. When I was a kid I was allowed to watch whatever I wanted & nothing ever scared me.


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You're a brave little boy, aren't ya? Boo boo wah? Gah gah? Want candy?

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i started watching Termimator at 13 and it became my favitrte films.

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How old were you when you finished watching it?

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"Sheltered kids are the ones with the problems. When I was a kid I was allowed to watch whatever I wanted & nothing ever scared me."

Definitely agree. Not saying kids should be allowed to see outright porno....but I see little to no harm in them watching movies that they aren't going to actually understand anyway. It's up to the parents to teach the kids right from wrong, and adult behavior vs child behavior.

It's discomforting to think of what this generation of coddled, over-protected bedwetters are going to grow up to be like as adults. Seriously....everyone knows that person who was way too sheltered growing up, and has trouble dealing with normal situations.....now realize that 80% of kids these days are growing up like that.

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interesting thread.. here's food for thought: a young girl at school was being pressured to date a particular boy - when she refused, she was asked if she was a Lesbian! her reply, "No, but by the way, I'm 10." true experience. young teens are also being sent porn on cell phones. you may be aware that, in one state, boys who received such lewd photos (some of their female classmates under 16) were charged for 'possession of child porn' when their phones were seized. in one case, the girls who sent such photos were charged for producing child porn. All this sparked a controversy about appropriate lawmaking to deal with the problem (as if it's the lawmakers' fault this happened).

just scratching the surface here, but I do hope you realize that this is the most sexualized generation of pre-teens and teens EVER on the planet? TV, trashy movies from Hollywood, and now, the Internet have provided the fuel. it doesn't matter if the sexual material is just explicitly discussed, or shown graphically, check it out: studies indicate that everyone, including teens, are strongly influenced by it. So, a film like 'Ugly Truth', which (I read) contains ongoing dialogue about sexual matters, is quite inappropriate for children.

Some posting in this thread claim they have had liberal access to such media and feel that it's better to allow such for kids, rather than 'shelter' them. that's up to you. but packaging sexual matters for entertainment is tantamount to 'propaganda', isn't it? negative consequences such as unwanted pregnancies, STD's, or damaged emotions from betrayals are rarely portrayed, right? and tens of thousands of teen girls get pregnant every year in Western countries, which provides ample evidence that the 'propaganda' is having an effect.


we don't allow 12-year olds to drive cars, and you still need to be 18 to get married.. even Hollywood submits to a (fairly liberal) movie classification code system! parents who don't even recognize those limits are hiding their heads in the sand.. and may soon be known by another name: grandparents

my kudos to those of you who still believe that parents must fight to transmit a healthy value system to their offspring.. (--:

:-) canuckteach (--:

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"my kudos to those of you who still believe that parents must fight to transmit a healthy value system to their offspring.. (--:"

The point is, parents who transmit a healthy value system to their children don't need to worry about every little thing they consume, because their children will have a firm grasp of right and wrong.

All those points you make about the over-sexualization of children are all well and good....but you seem to ignore one fact.....this generation is also the most poorly raised, and neglected generation as well, with regards to fundamental attention, and stable, two-parent home lifes.

In other words....those kids were going to be effed up anyway. You can't just blame media when there are other, far more influentials factors involved.

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

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It isn't the media who are to blame (at least not wholly to blame), it is the lax (or rather absent) parenting of the liberal, post-censorship parents. The West needs more censorship, a stronger moral code, and a less liberal approach to portraying sex and violence in the media. Bring back the Hayes Office, I say!

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In other words....those kids were going to be effed up anyway. You can't just blame media when there are other, far more influentials factors involved
Oh, well, since the kids are going to be a mess anyway, might as well let them watch porn and violent dismemberment then, since it can't do them any more harm, right?

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Well...when I was around fourteen or fifteen (even before then), I have seen R rated movies, my parents didn't care...I'm nineteen and I'm not sexually active, I don't drink and I don't do drugs. There's more too it then just movies that will screw up a generation - lifestyle and values of parents. Then again, my maturity level has always been above average.

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Why would this be your conclusion from that whole post? Did you read it?

The point the poster was making is that the media is not the ROOT of the problem. If anything it is a symptom. So you can try and treat the symptom, to no or little avail, OR you can treat the root of the actual problem!

The issue is the lack of actual quality time between parents and children. The problem is the lack of invested parents. People need to stop having children because it feels like that is suppose to be what they do, because society tells them to, and start having children becasue they want to be parents. TALK TO YOUR KIDS, HELL YOU MIGHT EVEN LIKE THEM!!!

The original issue was about a 9 year old with her dad at the movies. I would bet, despite the sexualized movie she was just exposed to, this little girl will probably grow up to be fine. Perhaps even better than the sheltered girl, raised by her over bearing mom. Why? She appears to have a strong father figure who is attempting to spend time with his daughter. And maybe it was a later showing because it was a Friday? Maybe they had dinner before? Both didn't get out of school/work till 3-4pm? So after homework, we'll say maybe it was 5-6? After dinner 7-8? Then the movie...

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So some anonymous folk should decide what your kid should watch?

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So the youth are exposed to lots of sex. Who cares. Sex isn't dangerous as long as you teach kids responsibility and how to protect yourself from STDs and unwanted pregnancies. Has the condom been invented in your country?


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I would love to find out how much converstation about sex is happening in the homes with children sending sexual images to one another. Is it taboo? Is it something that is not talked about?

The point is sex IS going to happen. Perhaps not as teens, perhaps ONLY when they are married, but it WILL happen. As soon as we realize its not dirty, its not bad, it just is, maybe we'll realize that its okay to talk about. Its also interesting to see that in western countries where comprehensive sexual education exists AND there is liberal access to sexual images, the STD rate and teen pregnancy rate are LOWER. The problem in the United States is that we give mixed messages. On one hand sex is this great thing, a desirable thing (as is seen and promoted in the media, as canuckteach pointed out), but on the other you have a bunch of pinheads telling kids, and particulary girls that sex is bad. It sends a weird message. "Good girls, don't want sex, they don't even think about sex" yet they are bombarded with sexual images. So we create a society where the only "Ok" for a "good girl" to have sex is if it "just happens". Well when it "just happens" it also doesn't happen responsibly with protection.

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Totally agree with you. People need to chill out...

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Definitely agree with you. What's wrong with this movie? Someone said "c*ck" couple of times, so what? big deal. 14-years-olds use the same language every day, but not in front your eyes. And definitely have seen muck more "c*cks" than many of the 40-years-olds. Everyone knows it' so admit it. I guess it's the UGLY TRUTH

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I agree with you. I'm middle-aged now. When I was a kid, I was allowed to watch whatever I was interested in. I was very young when I saw films like The Exorcist, Don't Look Now, The Devils, Serpico, The Godfather, A Clockwork Orange, etc. at the theater. I think what should make the difference is if the kid is interested in the (type of) film, and whether they've typically enjoyed seeing that type of film--and that should be the case whether parents or guardians are hauling along a six year old or a sixteen year old.


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Completely agree with you. I watched The Exorcist at age 13 (against my mother's wishes) and a fair few other horror movies. I also tried alcohol at a nightclub for the first time at 15 while at a school party. Am I a psycho killer or an alcoholic these days? Absolutely not!

Give your kids some space, ffs!

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its a 15 in england and my 15 year old sister thought it was a little uncomfortable to watch she kept goin thank god mum n dad arnt here !

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In France there's no age restriction for that kind of movie. There were no k.unts and no blood, so I don't see why it shouldn't be for all. Anglo-saxons have a weird problem with swearing You people are far too religious.

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I just think there need to be limits. 9 is probably a bit young for this movie simply because the child would most likely be bored because they weren't getting many of the jokes, although I saw plenty of R movies as a 9 y/o (I loved to go to horror movies). And regarding my earlier post on this thread, 3 and 4 is too young for ANY movie that's not a children's movie with lots of bright colors and singing. Don't disrupt the other moviegoers experience just because you couldn't find a babysitter.

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Couldn't agree more. Many other European countries have no age restriction on this one. The age limits here are so kids won't be allowed to see what will really scare them and give them nightmares.

Otherwise it's up to the parents to bring their kids to movies that they will enjoy - but we don't need rules for that.

Just because a child won't take any harm watching a black and white slow drama doesn't mean that they will like going to see it and a parent probably knows that. But should there be an age restriction? I think not.

I think bringing a 9 year old to this film is not irresponsible, but the kid would probably not enjoy it too much. On the other hand bringing a child that age to a movie screening ending at midnight I think is a bigger problem.

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This reminds me of when my mum took me to see Jurassic Park when it first came out. Another mum took her son and daughter to see it. The girl was about 4 years old, and was absolutely terrified out of her wits. I still can't believe that her mum thought it was appropriate.

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"I made a comment to the woman who was selling the tickets that I wouldn't be taking a child that young to see this movie."

Did that make you feel good? Expressing your judgment of another person verbally?

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How did you know she was 9? Did you flat out ask her or her dad?

Hell hath no fury at all...

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What I don't get is why a 14 year old would care about parenting techniques.

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Perhaps the 14 year old has kids because her parents let her watch R-rated movies.

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I remember being in the theater for "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Devil's Advocate" with people who brought children younger than 12.

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I direct your attention towards this charming story, posted on NotAlwaysRight.Com. Yes, people really are THIS stupid.

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Parental Gui-dunce
Movie Theater | Vancouver, BC, Canada
(A woman and her son who looks about 8 storm up to the box office.)

Customer: “I demand my money back for our movie!”

Worker: “Okay, no problem. Because it’s been within the first 30 minutes I can refund you the full price. What movie was it that you went to see?”

Customer: “Sin City!”

Worker: *begins to refund the two tickets*

Customer: “You know, this is ridiculous. You should have told me that this movie was inappropriate for my child. There’s not even a notice anywhere telling me this!”

Worker: “Uh…"

Customer: “How on earth was I supposed to know that this movie is inappropriate? You really should have told me!”

Worker: “Are you serious? The movie is rated 18A, the poster right in front of you has a half naked lady dancing, AND it’s called SIN City! Did you expect it to be about bunnies and rainbows?”

Customer: *grabs her money and storms off with her son*

( http://notalwaysright.com/parental-guidunce/1317 )

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I've seen really young kids (6 and under) at many midnight showings I've been to. Especially The Dark Knight and Harry Potter movies. Neither of which is appropriate for that age anyway, let alone in the middle of the night. I guess parents are too lazy, too cheap, to get a babysitter, or too stupid to check if the movie is okay for their kids to see, or too ignorant to be able to judge appropriateness.

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At my local cinema in UK no one under 18 is allowed into any late night (after 10pm start time) show, which I personally think is a good idea.

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