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'An original idea by Tim Burton...'


Umm, no.






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What do you mean? Isn't this a remake of a short-film he did in the 90s?

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He got the idea from Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.

Cleary, not an original idea.




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No, it's a remake of a short film he did in the 80's. Not the 90's.

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Yep.. BASED on 'An original idea by Tim Burton' the 1984 short film.

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Nope, BASED on Frankenstein.




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While it is loosely based on Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, it is still considered an original idea because it isn't about a mad scientist who raises up a dead man made from various body parts and the misunderstood "monster" gives into people's fears and actually becomes a horrible monster. It's about a young boy who loses his favorite dog and he strives to bring him back so he can play with and love his favorite fur baby. That's what makes it an original idea. It was originally a 30 minute movie made in 1984 with Barrett Oliver, Daniel Stern, and Shelly Duvall. It was one of the movies I had grown up and loved as a child.

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I don't remember Frankenstein have 'Monster pets' ??????
Must have missed that chapter.

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So that would mean that H.P. Lovecraft's short story Herbert West: Re-animator isn't an original idea, or John W. Campbell's Who Goes There isn't an original idea?

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no, they are not. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you dont pretend its an original idea.

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... Which was based on Frankenstein. F_cking obviously...

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The entire movie I had that credit stuck in my head. This was the least original movie that's ever claimed to have been an original idea.

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^Exactly.

How can people even think this is anywhere near being an original idea?

The name of the movie is FRANKENweenie...you know, like FRANKENstein?

Even Burton knows he's full of $hit. Why else would he feel he had to make that claim?


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Who exactly was trying to squeak one by you? I was going to point out that he named it Frankenweenie, but you apparently already knew that. Yes, it's based on Frankenstein (with only a couple of differences - see if you can spot them). Every 7 year old knows this is "based" on Frankenstein. They are assuming you know that too, and saying it's original from that point on. Which it definitely is. No one is trying to convince you he came up with the story of Frankenstein.

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Are you daft?

In the beginning credits there is a statement that clearly says:

"An original idea by Tim Burton."

This statement is false.

End of story.

You can stop thinking now, I've done it for you.





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Ohh wait a sec, I didn't get what you were saying at first. My bad, you were pointing out that it's based on the book and movie Frankenstein. LOL, I totally didn't get that. You're right, now that I think about it, the whole thing where he brings the thing to life, and goes to the windmill, all that jazz... it IS like Frankenstein! How did I not notice that? Omg, I can't believe Burton tried to convince us this was his idea!

Jesus Christ man, the word "original" can carry more than one degree. On one extreme, you could argue that my stepdad's bootlegged versions of Frankenweenie are original because he adds wacky sound effects and re-edits it to include McDonald's commercials. On the other extreme, you could argue that Mary Shelley's work is NOT original because before she wrote it, a large man had killed a little girl at some point in time and she likely knew that. Probably at some point people were killed at windmills. Definitely there were mobs that killed innocent people. I bet she wasn't the first person to come up with the idea of re-animating the dead, or creating a person or monster from other people's body parts. She got her ideas from somewhere, right? She didn't just come up with all of them on her own out of the blue. Some of it was based on other things. Probably some real life, some other stories. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it's what all artists do. So only parts of her book are her original ideas, and parts are not.

Obviously both of those examples are extremes, but you're daft if you think the word original has only one meaning, and you get to decide what it is. Are you thinking the rest of us don't get that it's based on Frankenstein? Lots of Frankenweenie is original, and you can't argue that. It's wildly different from Frankenstein in about a million ways, and you can't argue that. So in some sense, it is original. Clearly it's not original enough for YOU to call it original, but stop acting like you get to decide what the rest of us think. I think Burton's short film and long animated movie that are loosely based on Frankenstein are both very original works of art (yes, original works of art based on another work of art - can you wrap your head around the concept?), and that's a valid point of view. Your point of view is valid too, but it's just a point of view.

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This was the least original movie that's ever claimed to have been an original idea.

lol I know, right? It's a long series of "homages" (aka ripoffs), one after the other. But yeah, fanboys. Burton invented everything (even Sweeny Todd, which was a musical before Burton was even a director)

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Dude relax. It was meant as Tim came up with reviving a dead dog. Which really came from Italian scientist Giovanni Aldini who started shocking animals back to life and then went onto trying it on humans which helped to inspire Mary in writing Frankenstein.

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I did think the Frankenstein inspiration was not too original.

It's that man again!!

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