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No haters, his movies are just plain awful


I've read most reviews of the film. Most are negative, and in every online review, the comment sections are filled with Perry fans having a fit.
Now I have a question. Why is it, when a Tyler Perry movie gets a lousy review, his fans turn into a bunch of 7 year olds screaming UNFAIR!!!!! Hey, his movies are a joke. Sure they make money, lots of people enjoy them. Lots of people love Big Macs, but guess what? They're lousy for ya. And if a dietician were to write a review saying "The Big Mac is a terrible food choice, and if you want to remain healthy, you should avoid eating Big Macs." should every fan of the Bog Mac start screaming YOU JUST HATE BIG MACS!! YER A HATER!!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!
No, because that would be ridiculous. But anyone who has any sense of good filmmaking, good writing, and good acting can easily look at these films and say, "This is an amateur production." Now it doesn't mean anyone hates Tyler Perry, it just means since he has found an audience who happily eat this stuff up, he makes tons of money, and has no reason to improve his product. That alone does not make the product any good.
His fans who get upset at any negative reviews should get a thicker skin, tough sh*t if reviewers don't like it, it doesn't stop you from seeing, so quit the complaining and crying.

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Tyler Perry's films aren't any worse than Adam Sandler's film. Are you on his board whining about the bad quality of his movies?

I have my own mind. And as a reward, I get to use it.

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No I'm not, and that's because he doesn't have an audience that comes out for every review saying "YOu don't understand Adam Sandler". Adam Sandler movies are garbage, but his fans don't seem to care about critics.
Hell, I don't know of ANY other director, black, white or whatever, who has a fan base that gets so upset when the reviews come in.

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Exactly. When I watch Sandler movies, I go into a movie that doesn't regard itself as anything more than a mindless comedy. Perry's movies try to be something more than that and fail.

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ur an idiot mindless comedy thats retarded to say look at adams movies lets say click. the movie starts off with an overworked father and husband who thinks his life would be easyer if he had a remote that could control everything things go on and he gets his wish but it goes wrong he starts skiping all the imporntant things in life and in the end he comes to realize family is the most imporntant thing in life and changes. look at happy gilmore adam plays happy an asipiring hockey player who finds out his gramba owes alot in back taxes and tryes to help her get her taxes payed off by playing gulf daddy day care. he plays sunny who lives life to its fullest always parting and slacking then this little boy comes into his life and teaches him to grow up.. billy madison he plays a nearly 30 year old slacker living of his dad and drinking his life away who ends up going back to school to prove to his dad that he isnt just a slacker. and ends up proving to himself that he can be better. now tell me how is that mindless

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now that is a stuped thing every movie of adam sandlers are great movies in fact none of tyler perry's are remotly good. infact they are all stuped and in the amount of time tyler perry has been making movies adams movies had made way more money

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Because his fans are ignorant and lack the ability to have an unbiased viewpoint.

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I like the films. I'll admit that may make me biased. However it doesn't make me ignorant. Your post on the other hand shows you to be ignorant, disrespectful, and rude.

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First off it's spelled goodcraker...not cracker, it's a play on my last name.
But that's ok, you can go ahead and feel that I am a racist based on your illusion of what the name represents.
Secondly, let's take a look at what else you attempted to communicate, using what I imagine are rudimentary skills at both typing and spelling.

"his product doest need improvement he has a greAT story and a good cast thats yo dumba$$ opinion however u are entitled to it no matter how stuid it may be"

Droll..........

ALL EYES ON bizarro85101, he can spell reel good!

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I've read most reviews of the film. Most are negative, and in every online review, the comment sections are filled with Perry fans having a fit.
Actually, three or so of his films had some great reviews. His film, The Family that Preys has a 70% on the top critics section: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tyler_perrys_the_family_that_preys/?cr itic=creamcrop
So no, his films aren't the worst films ever created.

Hey, his movies are a joke.
I'm assuming you haven't seen a film of his. No, I know. You see a cross dresser on a movie poster and you, along with several others, assume that it's like any other cross dressing film. What you don't know is that this cross dresser never really appear for more like in a couple of scenes. In fact, Madea, doesn't really have anything to do with the plot of his films, only giving the audience some comedic relief, with an exception of this film, of course, where you can tell that this film is actually about Madea.

And how about pick some films of his that don't have the corss dresser. *gasp* Wow, he had made films without being a cross dresser! These films include The Family that Preys, that star an Academy Award winner and an Academy Award nominee, Why Did I Get Married?, and Meet the Browns, which only includes a cameo from this cross dresser.

Lots of people love Big Macs, but guess what? They're lousy for ya.
How do you know his films are like Big Macs in the first place?

But anyone who has any sense of good filmmaking, good writing, and good acting can easily look at these films and say, "This is an amateur production."
Says the person who have never seen his movies. Granted, his films get better and better within each films he's making. He's a learning director but many critics pointed out he's improving. For example, I've just seen Why Did I Get Married? like three days ago. Let me say this: The film was shot beautifully. It looked anything but amateurish.

Now it doesn't mean anyone hates Tyler Perry, it just means since he has found an audience who happily eat this stuff up, he makes tons of money, and has no reason to improve his product.
Again, says the person who never saw a single of his films.

I've seen two of his films. I watched his very first, A Diary of a Mad Black Woman and I liked it. It wasn't anything amazing, per se, but it was a hell of a lot better than a beginner's first feature film. And, as said before, I've seen Why Did I Get Married? Not that was not only beautifully shot, some of the dialogue was great, the performances were excellent, and the score fit so well with the film. I loved it. If the haters actually see his film, not a single soul would be posting these ignorant, idiotic threads. It makes you and them look completely stupid because even though you guys may trash his movies, you guys have, literally, no clue what you're talking about.

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These films include The Family that Preys, that star an Academy Award winner and an Academy Award nominee
When was that ever a sign of a good movie. Species starred 2 Oscar winners, and another oscar nominee. Does that improve the quality of the film? I like looking at a naked Natasha Hestridge but really, her tits ain't exactly Rosebud

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When was that ever a sign of a good movie.
...did you really just asked that?

Species starred 2 Oscar winners, and another oscar nominee.
Yes, and people actually liked that movie. Your point was...?

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...did you really just asked that?
Yes, yes indeed I did. And I stand by it. Legally Blonde 2? Sweet Home Alabama? The New Karate Kid? The Reaping? Aeon Flux? All movies starring best actress winners... and not good.

My point was that it is a terrible movie. That people liked it says nothing of the quality

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The overwhelming evidence suggests they aren't good movies. The opinion of the majority, as well as the opinions of critics have certainly gone some way to show their lack of quality

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now u are stuped the opinion of the critics have nothing to do with a movies quality and neither does the opinion of the majority

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all of which you said is your personal bias opinion. Just because you think those weren't good movies. Doesn't necessary make them NOT GOOD movies

So what does make a movie bad? Or do you believe that there is no such thing as good and bad?

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Not sure how your first paragraph meshes with your second. Speed Racer had a budget of 120 million but made just over a third of that. By your logic it did not make any money, therefore nobody bothered watching, therefore it was not entertaining and so a bad freaking movie. How could it be underrated?

Which actually raises an interesting dynamic. One can only really evaluate a film after one has seen it, so box office receipts are distorted by the fact that some people who spent money on the film hated it, others are die hard fanboys who would lap up anything with a particular actor/director/theme, while still others may not have had the time/money/inclination to go see a film they would have otherwise been entertained by, even if only mildly. By extension it means that some people can find something entertaining while others do not, so by your logic, since the people who find a given film annoying or distasteful can do nothing active to express their opinion (they can only stay away from the cinema), in order for a film to be good it needs only to convince enough people to see it to cover its budget. Seems to me more of a challenge of marketing and budgeting than a challenge of film making.

In effect, by arguing that the only relevant metric for evaluating a film is profit margin, you posit that films must always be evaluated as products and never as art. While I agree that financial metrics can be important, the restriction seems to me to be a bit arbitrary.

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My point was that it is a terrible movie. That people liked it says nothing of the quality
But it got positive reviews...and it's kinda laughable how you make your opinion look more superior than those who liked the film. You say those who liked the movie says nothing about the quality. I can say the same for your opinion.

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But it got many, many more negative reviews than positive. That is true, I enjoy many terrible films, that doesn't mean I think they are good.

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i would have to disagree with sweet home alabama and aeon flux they were good in my opionion

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I think it wasn't the greatest analogy comparing Big Macs and the Dietician with Tyler Perry and his movies. I have not actually seen anything this guy has done and thus can be impartial as to what I'm going to say next. Big Macs are high in saturated fat, fat, carbohydrates and the cows are being fed lots of soy and grain which leads to the deterioration of the rain forest. Dietitians can unequivocally say that Big Macs are harmful for all of us because of the scientifically and thus empirically proven tests that high levels of fat, saturated fat, sodium and carbohydrates are bad for you. A bad movie is only a bad movie in the eyes of its beholder. And thus, we can say a movie had a bad budget and the writing was all over the place and the actors did not take their roles seriously; but, we cannot take art and say to everyone that it's awful. The majority of movies made in Hollywood, in my opinion, are utter trash. That's my take on it and I could easily defend my thesis but now isn't the time.

I think what you're trying to say is that you can make both a bad movie and still get fans. The problem with forums, at least one problem: is that once you give a movie a bad or good critique you get all the loonies coming out of the woodwork.

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I agree..me personally like his movies I find a lot of heart in them,most ppl I know that have seen movies with madea in them think she's/he's funny...on another note I once heard that a critic is someone who judes a flim or cd w/o ever maken 1!...my opinion if u don't like it don't waste your breath if you do than have fun watching it.

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thats wrong a big mac is only bad for u if u eat to many of them its not going to kill u if u eat one. unless u choke on it or are alergic to beef

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actually i have a friend who is a diatition and she says big macs double cheese burgers and such are not necisarrly bad for u infact they have lots of protien which is good for u. its the over consumtion of these food that is bad or unhealthy for u

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