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Did anybody else think the corporation was a little too evil?


Well?

I am so smart, the only thing I can't comprehend is how stupid everyone else is

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Why is that? It is a simple question.

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What do you think is so unbelievable about the corporation? They see the aliens as disgusting and inferior and they want ways to make money out of them. I thought the treatment of the aliens in this situation was rather realistic.

"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member."

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No, not towards the aliens, but towards one of their own employees. They were talking about dismembering him right in front of him with no remorse whatsoever.

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Things just as evil have been done in the name of science. He's an asset that could have been worth billions of dollars, they wouldn't have cared. It bears resemblance to the Nazi experiments on humans.

"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member."

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Yeah the Nazis did stuff like that, but they were and evil empire, not a corporation. I mean this was one of their own guys. One of the top guys was the father-in-law...He was still conscious and pleading with them not to do it.

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Humans are humans, it doesn't really matter what collective name they are masquerading under. We could see from earlier scenes that the father-in-law was lacking empathy and that he put business before everything else, including family. When people hear of some grotesque murder or some ordinary massacre on the news, our first reaction usually is 'how could anyone do that?' But after asking ourselves that question so many times, we have to realise that many of us are cruel and many of us have the capacity to torture others mercilessly whether it be for their own material benefit or just for pleasure.

"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member."

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I don't think it is crazy that they did what they did, I just thought it was a little over the top to show no empathy as they were talking about his demise right in front of him as if his life was meaningless.

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You must be very naive to think that corporations (especially defense) corporations wouldn't do something like that. They'd rip out their grand mothers gold teeth with pliars for a few dollars!

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They finally had human access to advanced alien weapons. Yeah that's a big deal they'd do anything to get a hold of that.

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None of you are getting what I am saying!

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I agree with you and I think people are deliberately missing your point. I loved the movie but they way in which Wikus was treated was cruel and disturbing. That of course was the point but i agree they could have been more humane with him. I dont doubt that they would experiment on him, but they don't need to describe what they plan to do while he is conscious screaming for help, terrified and alone begging his father and law for help. I mean come on surely the father in law would be a bit shaken, he knew Wikus and his daughter loved him and he couldn't give a 'Fook' about lying to her and seeing her suffer in that way. I think they were a bit OTT in their actions but I loved this movie so much I can accept it as a device to get us to hate the people hurting Wikus, which I fooking did!

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I agree with you and I think people are deliberately missing your point. I loved the movie but they way in which Wikus was treated was cruel and disturbing. That of course was the point but i agree they could have been more humane with him. I dont doubt that they would experiment on him, but they don't need to describe what they plan to do while he is conscious screaming for help, terrified and alone begging his father and law for help. I mean come on surely the father in law would be a bit shaken, he knew Wikus and his daughter loved him and he couldn't give a 'Fook' about lying to her and seeing her suffer in that way. I think they were a bit OTT in their actions but I loved this movie so much I can accept it as a device to get us to hate the people hurting Wikus, which I fooking did!

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He was one of their own guys that was married to the boss' daughter. He was probably in charge of the evac operation BECAUSE the boss wanted to give him a cush job. Why is it inconceivable the company didn't give 2 $hits about him after they found out that 1. he was able to survive with Prawn genes 2. he was able to give them access to the previously unusable alien tech.

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I don't have any problem with the idea of them not caring about his life, it is the way they were talking about his death right in front of him. It was a little too over the top to be believable in my opinion.

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They were scientists and he was their asset. They were treating him just like they'd treat a prawn, with no dignity and no real concern whether he hears their plans or not. I thought it was a pretty good implication on the whole commentary of the film that the people in charge clearly didn't care about the prawns' well-being.

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I didn't see it that way.

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I think one of the ideas in the film is that there has been a close alignment, if not outright merger, between the interests of MNU and the government.

...and Mrs. Taylor sure seems to use a lotta ice, whenever he's away

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I agree. I think they seemed a little too remorseless and cruel. I know they're trying to show the 'seedy underbelly' of humanity, but it's a little ridiculous that they'd go from zero to 'kill him!' in just a few minutes.

That and the whole, "shoot the prawn" *beep* your wife!" scene was a little too crazy, though Sharlto's reactions to it were genuine enough to carry the emotional impact of the scene forward, despite the absurd 'super villain' feel to the corporation.

I'll bring the BEARDS.

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MNU in the movie are a weapons manufacturer. Hardly the type of organization that values human life much when their entire existence is to find new, better ways of people killing other people, and when many of their clients/customers are going to be governments or organizations who they know will use their weapons to massacre innocents.

Also, do a bit of reading up on drugs companies, e.g. GlaxoSmithKline, one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Many of them have a track record of participating in horrendous experiments on third world or helpless people/villages/children, involving bribery, corruption, murder, and cover ups. Remember that weapons manufacturers are far more secretive and shady than pharmaceutical companies, so who knows what MNU-like organisations are up to in the real world.

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That isn't what I have a problem with. I agree that their are evil people in the real world who wouldn't hesitate to murder innocent people for personal gain. I was only stating that at the moment when they were presented with the opportunity they acted a little too evil right in front of one of their own. It would seem more realistic if they had their little discussion in private, but to basically decide to murder one of their own guys while he is laying their was a bit much.

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Well, it's personal opinion. I think a company that experimented heavily on living creatures, even if alien, would definitely jump at the chance of experimenting on "one of their own" if that person had started to turn into the same species that they had spent however many years experimenting on. These people had zero morals, and they were presented with the opportunity of a lifetime here, so I don't think it was too out of "character" for MNU to act that way to Vickus.

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In my opinion, he ceased to be a person in their eyes. He became just another 'prawn' and it was obvious they didn't give a shizz about them. He became an object to figure out, he was no longer Wickus. Does that make sense? So since he wasn't a person in their eyes but an object, they didn't care about talking in front of him.
Was it cold and callous, absolutely, but then so are most corporations.

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not sure why you're getting so much push-back on this, i am inclined to agree. I loved this movie but I did think they went slightly over the top with this particular theme. Not the father in law or the Colonel mind you - they were excellent characters, it was more the scientist with the cattle prod. I found that a bit hard to swallow.

He was definitely suffering from some "learned helplessness," why not try and at least coax him into doing what they wanted? It did seem a bit much in tone if not actions.

So yes, i thought the evil corporation was just slightly "too evil" for my taste which was a mild distraction from an otherwise outstanding movie.

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I disagree. He was stubborn and defying the scientist. He explicitly stated that he will not cooperate in firing the weapon.

If I was the scientist, I would cattle prod him even if I didn't have to as retaliation. The specimen needs to know who is in charge.

Once you give in, the specimen will know that he can potentially defy you and get away with it. That is not the way to set the standard.

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I love this comment, extremely well said. Sometimes you have to club people over the head to get them to understand.

To prawns: I am your master, you will obey me or die. A human shows up with a prawn claw. What is the difference? And then a human shows up with no prawn claw? What is the difference?

Once you start down that sickening road, there is no difference. All living things are at your disgusting service, to be disposed of like feces.

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Within the film context, it is clear that he has been enslaved by the corporation and is now the property of the corporation.

It is fine if he wants to resist and fight for his freedom. But he is not. He clearly does not wish to be a martyr. Yet, he refuses to obey as if he is still a free man.

Therefore, he must be punished.

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If you think for a second that some mega conglomerate mucky muck wouldn't secretly canabalize one of his employees if it meant a cure for aids or cancer (instantly becoming the biggest company in the world), you got another thing coming. Anything for the almighty dollar. Granted it was overplayed a bit.

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Father-in-law was just a little bit too much for me. What is his motivation, why does he hate Wikus so much, why are they discussing about dissecting him when he is right there. Why does the wife leave Wikus in a heartbeat, great marriage. Wikus might as well get himself cut open rather than go back home.

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Human history:

Emperors and kings killing their brothers to claim the throne
Nazi experiments in humans
Genocides of millions of people (Jews, Armenians etc)
Atomic bombs destroying whole cities
Civil wars, where even brothers fought each other for political reasons
I can't really remember a period in history with no wars at all.


Yep... this movie was totally unrealistic.

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You are missing the point. I don't know why people have such a hard time comprehending simple things...

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No it's you that keeps missing everyone's point. Bottom line is the guy ceased to be looked upon as a human being the second the corporation realised that his mutated genes would allow them to use the alien weapons, something they'd been trying to do for nearly 30 years to no avail.

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