The word 'bombard' suggests repeated pounding,it just doesn't happen that way in the film,it really doesn't.At the point of the reveal Andrew is still in denial,how can he be showing remorse?
The ending in the lighthouse. Doctor Sheehan and Cawley are "bombarding" him with unpleasant facts and image (pictures of his dead kids). Trying to pound into a mentally unstable man's head that he is a monster that got his family killed, and abusing his guilt about how his dead children talk to him. I just don't find this kind of psychiatry therapeutic or safe either. The entire experiment is flawed from the outset, and culminates in the ineffective breakthrough (or shall we say reinforcemnt) of Teddy's psychological problems.
And I think the fact he is shown to pine for his dead wife and even act visibly traumatized over the idea of having kids that died shows that he is remorseful for whatever happened in his past. But instead of being consoled for this, he is demonized.
On the point of consent,we don't know because the film doesn't show us either way.However it does tell us that Andrew had had previous breakthroughs when he may have consented.It's also possible for a family member or even a doctor to give consent by proxy if they think it's in the best interest of the patient
Well we are never given enough information to know if Teddy or a family member consented to the experiment. What we do know is that, as Gleamy-Jog has pointed out in other posts, the experiment breaks just about every aspect of the Nuremberg Code and frequently places Teddy/Andrew and others in danger of death or grievous physical harm. The experiment itself seems more like a brainwashing technique than it does legitimate psychiatry.
.I hate to say it but I think that's just what these places were like back then.
So you're agreeing that the Doctors and staff are acting ethically questionable, and that Ashecliffe doesnt seem too safe for mental health patients?
saying that Andrew was "not a threat to anyone" now you admit that he is.
He's only dangerous because he is encouraged to be by the doctors. They are trying to make him believe that he is some horrible, violent lunatic by reinforcing his behaviour and evepn rewarding him for attacking people. We cannot believe this is how Teddy would be on the outside in society with proper care.
Well I know the use of role play/psychodrama is a very real method so I'll have to say yes.
I don't think this particular role playing experiment would be approved by any reasonable doctors. Psychodrama usually takes place on a stage or confined, controlled environment and under supervision to allow participants to safely reenact scenarios. Also I'm not sure how effective it is for hallucinating persons to be unknowingly brought along for the role play, when they can't even tell reality from fantasy. Is this effective psychodrama? What is this supposed to accomplish exactly, other than making Andrew believe he is really Teddy and that he's being lied to?
I just don't know what it is your trying to say.Is it that you don't like the film because you don't think it's realistic?
No less realistic than many of the experiments and brainwashing that have taken place at psychiatric institutions in the US.
.The guilt he feels,I believe,is not for killing his wife but for neglecting to help her.This caused him to create the "good man" persona of Teddy.I believe that probably happened almost immediately.
This is one of those movies where each theory has enough evidence to support them. I think it's possible that Andrew is being made to believe he was a US Marshal. Maybe in reality he never even had kids, and his wife really did die when the apartment burned down. A lot of variables, but the truth could go either way.
Can't say I'm a fan of it myself,
Id say that's a bit of an understatement. Andrew/Teddy is a victim of medical malpractice.
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