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Who says money can't buy love?


It looks like it costs about $24,000 in this movie.

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That was what finally broke through to her and made her see who her husband had become. He was earning her love all along in big and small ways. Unfortunately, she had hardened her heart so much that it took something huge to get through to her.

"My best friend was born in a manger!"

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i can tell you that she was far more selfish then him.
he worked hit ass off bringing home money and she expected him to do countless hours of house hold chores when he just got off a 24 hour sift

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They were both selfish and attacking each other. I think they were trying to show how current generations have become so individualized and concerned with their own wants and needs that they destroy their own marriages in the process. We live in a time where it's all about "me" and it tears marriages apart. I told my boyfriend who has grandparents in their nineties who have been married since they were in their twenties that people from that generation repeatedly over the course of their marriages made decisions based on what's best for "us" and "our children" and that's why they stay married for so long. Our generation has lost that I think.

Do ya love him Loretta?
Ah Ma I love im awful.
Oh God, you poor thing.

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"people from that generation repeatedly over the course of their marriages made decisions based on what's best for "us" and "our children" and that's why they stay married for so long"

That's an opinion, but not a very sound one.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" - Goethe

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Even if it is just an opinion, I agree with it. We are WAY too selfish these days and it's not good.

"My best friend was born in a manger!"

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The reason older couples are married for so long is primarily because they are stuck in the past. Up until fairly recently, it was extremely socially unacceptable to get a divorce. Which is utter crap because it ends up forcing thousands of people into loveless, unhappy marriages for the sheer sake of 'fitting in'.

The fact is that lots of people end up getting married to someone that they ultimately fall out of love with and they stay in those marriages either out of social pressure, security & comfort or fear.

"What was once a raging river of passion had by now become a delta of passive acceptance."

I'm completely against the notion that you should ever be stuck with a decision for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. Nothing should be permanent, especially if it's going to make you miserable. The only acceptable deviation on this rule is children. However, no one should EVER have a child unless they are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN that they are ready for such on all levels. Far, far too many people bring life into this world too casually, and no one should EVER have an accidental child.

Now, while this is my opinion, take a few things into account.

-I am married. We dated for 3 years, were engaged for 1 year and have been married 2 1/2 years.
-I believe that marriage isn't for most people and in fact, far too many people get married.

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I'll be married 25 years this fall. Divorce has been acceptable in the
US since the 1960s. The 'older' couples who stay married when they don't want to be are rare these days.
Marriage is what the people involved make it. And while the excitement born out of insecurity fades, mutual kindness, tolerance and affection is what makes a marriage a haven for two souls.





"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"

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So you are saying that she thinks "things" are more important than saving her marriage after all her husband had done prior to salvage their marriage. Doesn't say much about her that he would have to go to that length before she realized he had changed. Especially after he had gotten on his knees and made a heartfelt, tearful apology while she was sick in bed and begged for her forgiveness.

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Great story, but only in Hollywood...

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I just saw this movie yesterday (Mar. 24, 2013). I agree with JC_PBS. The money was irrelevant. What got to her was he gave up something dear (to the point of obsession) to him to do something for her. She mentioned that had her hands full with her parents. She needed help. Most likely, from what the movie presented, she was an only child so she could not expect help from any siblings.

What Caleb did was a clear sign that he finally heard her, listened and did something about it. Regards.

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What would happen if Caleb hasn't saved up 24 thousand dollars to buy the equipment? How is he going to get his message across to her?

I tend to agree with the first post.

While giving up his nest egg was certainly admirable it shouldn't have taken her that long to see the efforts he was making.

This movie is complicated and while I agree that most married couples struggle with the challenges of putting "self" or "partner" first in a marriage I think that there has to be a balance between the two. We've gone so far overboard in modern times on blaming people for being "selfish" that you can't do anything just for yourself anymore without being criticized for it.

I would be interested to hear other thoughts.

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I believe she saw his efforts, it was just that she did not believe that they were sincere, especially since at first he did them mechanically and without real emotion like the poor attempt at giving her those flowers.

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She actually did see the efforts he was making. She mentioned that when he was talking to her that day she was sick and stayed home from work. But she also said that she wanted to believe that all this was genuine, but that she was not quite ready to trust him yet. It's just that the giving of the $24,000 to help her mom and dad was what convinced her it was for real. Because, really, nobody would give up that kind of money for you unless they really cared about you and loved you.

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I agree with the prior posting. What if he didn't have that money. Would the marriage be over? Probably. Doesn't say much for her. Besides your taking it out of context. You have to look at it in relation to everything else she did especially how she acted towards the doctor when she thought he was the one who paid for the bed and chair. She obviously valued other "THINGS" over her marriage much like her husband did before he saw the error of his ways. At least as soon as she took off her wedding ring, she acted much like her husband did prior, disrespectful, unloving and selfish. Qualities she had all along and probably displayed at one time or another but really didn't come to light until she wanted out of the marriage. I think that was the point the writers were trying to convey.

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I really like this movie. But it's silly that they needed $24,000 for medical equipment for the mom in the first place. You can rent all that stuff nowadays.

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