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Who else thinks the 80's ROCKED and the 90's SUCKED!?


As "The Ram" states in the bar: the 80's rocked and the 90's sucked. The music in the 80's were far better than the 90's.

The 80's were all about hair bands that rocked out songs about having a good time. Since the early 90's there hasn't been hardly any good music that has come out. Rock got too deep and dark, and rap is has no class. It's all about gangs, killing, being racist, and sexist. It's dumbing-down the young generation and society.

I'm waiting for music to come back that had the style, class, and charisma that music from the 70's and 80's had. Actually just pre-90's.

I was really glad to see this movie put great songs in it (other than the songs playing at the strip club) that totally rocked out.

You see an AC/DC poster in "The Ram's" trailer but we never hear any AC/DC music. I supposed that was just a symbol of "The Ram" being an 80's icon. Never the less, "Bang Your Head" "Balls to the Wall" "Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone)" "Round and Round" and "Sweet Child O Mine" added alot to the movie.

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80's were more fun. They rocked.

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There were aspects of the 80s that were better than the 90s, but as far as music goes:

80s:

AC/DC
Warrant
Slaughter
Poison
Skid Row
Ratt
Aerosmith
Def Leppard

vs.

90s:

Nirvava
Pearl Jam
Smashing Pumpkins
Radiohead
Soundgarden
Tool
Nine Inch Nails
Stone Temple Pilots
Rage Against the Machine
Primus

Yeah.....no competition. 90s music dominated...despite what Randy thought of that "Cobain p*ssy"

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AC/DC shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as those other clowns.

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80's music was indeed great, but to me, there's no beating Grunge. 91 was the best year in music ever hands down.

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The 90s were great because male singers decided they should sound (and look) like men as opposed to the high pitched screeching from androgynous hair bands. It was nice to hear dudes put some bass in their voice.
BNow there was some good rock music in the 80s. Specifically, thrash (Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer) and a few British bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest etc)

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I think the 80's music was great, but it was my "time" as an adolescent. Everyone believes "their" generational music was the best. The 80's and 90's both had good and bad music, by bad I mean RAP. It has been around since the late 80's, 20 years and counting. I'm still waiting on it to GO AWAY. Funny how everything else has come and gone. I enjoyed 80's heavy metal, 90's techo/dance beat and swing. Alternative music was great during both decades. My complaints lie in 90's politics (The Clintons), television (groups of people living, eating & breathing together 24/7) and the Seattle Grunge movement, which was nothing more than music played by coffee drinking depressed people who never showered or changed clothes. Put all three complaints together and you might come up with a modern day hippie commune under a bad government!

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80's thrash metal is good, but I ain't so big on the hard rock - like if you have heard one AC/DC song, you've heard them all. Overall the 70's was the best time of rock music with The Who and Black Sabbath and bands in that nature.

And rap has always been good music and it's never going away, most people has propaply just heard the wrong bands.

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...rap is has no class. It's all about gangs, killing, being racist, and sexist. It's dumbing-down the young generation and society.


That's like saying rock is all about satanism. Wrong.

Besides, the highest selling rap artist of the decade is white.

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I hate rap, not because I think it's racist, but because it's not music IMO. It's 99% rhythm with very little melody and almost never harmonies.

That's what they said about rock 'n' roll in the 50s. And they were right. Popular music hasn't been about melody or harmony or anything but rhythm in a loooooooonng time.


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That's true of MOST rock and Roll but bands like Radiohead, Mew, Dischwalla, Semisonic, Mogwai and Sigur Ros are almsot completely melody. Plus rock is way more melodic than rap.

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80's thrash metal is good, but I ain't so big on the hard rock - like if you have heard one AC/DC song, you've heard them all. Overall the 70's was the best time of rock music with The Who and Black Sabbath and bands in that nature.

And rap has always been good music and it's never going away, most people has propaply just heard the wrong bands.


I agree overall with this.
the '80s music that many know of suck, but yes the real heavy metal and thrash was kick ass (I was a closeted fan because that wasn't allowed in my house - I was a child)

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For the record, Rap has been around since the 70's.

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Well, I was born in 1990, and "my time" sucks! I love 70s music, some 80s, some 90s. Today's music sucks. It's all about black dudes singing about violence and sex or anorectic teenage girls who can't sing.

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I grew up in the 80's, and loved the 90's in my 20's. I'd have to say the 90's music was a little better cuz it had more thought and originality, especially in the lyrics. Like I said....I GREW UP. I realized a lot of 80's songs I loved had the most cliche'd and immature lyrics. Uggh, it was terrible. "What Vince, where?" "Turn up! The raaadio...I wanna hear it, gimme some more!" "She's my cherry pie, somethin somethin gay, make a grown man cry!" Metal started off sweet, but got really gay later. Especially when it became more about hair and make-up then the music. When it got down to the Poisons, Jovi's, Wingers and Warrants doing ballads over and over, I knew it was kicking a dead horse. It was WAY past it's prime.

Anyway, there is always good music out there, sometimes you have to look for it a bit. Don't just listen to corporate rock that your lame, local dinosaur rock station tells you to. (WRIF here in Detroit...uggh, they still play Def Leppard and Van Hagar like it's new hot sh!t !!!) As Cartman would say....LAAAAMMME!

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I tend to agree. Yeah, Cinderella, Poison, Def Leppard, Motley Crue, they all had a few listenable songs. But, as a high school kid in the mid-80s, when that's all the rednecks would play 24x7, it got really old and they all pretty much sounded alike to me. They were all trying to be Led Zeppelin IMHO.

I like the speed metal from the 80s - Metallica, Megadeath, etc. I like Guns and Roses, most of the Bon Jovi stuff was decent as well. AC/DC was good, but I wouldn't throw any of the three in with Poison/Warrant/Winger/LA Guns/Motley Crue/Def Leppard and the rest.

What's amazing is that the redneck guys that loved that stuff back in my day are still listening to it like it's classic rock or something.

The pop music of the 80s was really hit or miss. Sometimes I like the British synthesizer stuff, sometimes I hear it and wonder why I ever bought Pet Shop Boys and Culture Club tapes, although stuff like Depeche Mode and Erasure was really good. Stuff that was really, really good from the 80s was the college music/alternative stuff. Early REM, early U2, General Public, Hoodoo Gurus, some of those guys mixed in with the mainline British synthesizer stuff but was pretty good. Some of the punk/post punk stuff was excellent - The Clash had some of their best stuff, Black Flag, hell, even stuff from Hanoi Rocks and the other punk/glam band groups.

As for rap, I like the rap back then. Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, the party rap stuff like Rob Base, Young MC, that was good music.

But, overall, 90s music was far superior. The 70s were very spotty in retrospect, lots of great classic rock today but I remember a lot of really, really bad pop music.

Music from 2000-today? Pretty horrible stuff. Boy bands. American Idol retards. Bad rap/hip hop that has zero originality to it. Way to much of the same people. "Here's Beyonce with Jay-Z and Timbaland". "Here's Timbaland with Rhianna and Jay Z" "Here's a new one from Rhianna with Timbaland". "Here's Jay-Z with Beyonce and Timbaland". Crappy stuff that is copied 10 times a week after it's released and the result is a whole generation that's grown up with crud music. And the big rock act of the decade? Nickleback, a crappy tribute band that's trying to sound like some 80s hair band trying to sound like Zeppelin.

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Very well said. 100% agree.

By 1991 all the hair bands had become so formulaic that they were ripe for someone to come along and boot them out of the limelight. I was never a Nirvana fan but I'm really glad they showed up to give music a kick in the ass.

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I agree with just about every thing you said, early 90`s grunge: AMAZING good times - being an apathetic youth in the 90`s rocked. But `Girls, Girls, Girl`s` will allways be a feel good song

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Not me!

The 80's for the most part, culturally were ridiculous. Of course there were some bright spots (Jane's Addiction for starters). I think the early to mid 90's were way more "real", kind of like an anti-movement much in the same way that punk was in the 70s

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For the most part I can't stand 80's hair bands, god some of that was horrible. But it wasn't all bad, there were exceptions, of course.

The top 40 music from the 80's was also pretty awful.

The good stuff from the 80's was new wave, goth(or what later became known as goth, and "alternative" . Bands like The Cult, Jane's addiction, Love and Rockets, The Cure, Depeche Mode etc. That's the music worth remembering from the 80's.

The 90's were great when it came to music, especially the first 6 or 7 years. But there has been a steady decline since the end of that decade. Today's music pales in comparison.

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Yeah I disliked BOTH the 80's & the 90's to tell you the truth but there were a few good bands/songs sprinkled throughout those two decades though. I'm a true child of the 70's. Now THERE was a fun time for music, even though as a whole the 70's gets put down a lot because people tend to over hype "the great 60's" Whatever floats your boat I guess.

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I was born in 1982. I love the music of the 80s because I grew up with a lot of it. It's hard to explain...the music was mostly cheesy yet somewhat endearing. :-/

I didn't appreciate 90s music until recently, when I realized that music still had an identity. The 90s channel on XM gets a lot more play in my car, now that I realize musicians were unique...up until about 1998 or '99. Since then, it's all pop crap that sounds exactly the same. Cookie-cutter, bland, no identity whatsoever. I can honestly say I can't tell one artist form another, and probably couldn't tell you who was playing if you showed me their name.

Of course, not to pigeonhole the artists, you just have to look for the stuff you don't hear on the radio. However, most mainstream music (at least this decade) is absolutely awful.

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To FstrGray82......"Cookie-cutter" is the best term for 80's hair bands. Especially when it became all about those lame ballads by the Poison's. Wingers, and Warrants. So gay, lame and cliche'd. Good term. I've used it before on this subject and in this context. People that still think Def Leppard or Van Hagar were the best bands ever and STILL ARE the best bands ever seriously need to grow the f up. Losers. There's great stuff out there if you know how to look for it.

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One things for sure
both decades were better than the 00s!
Even tho I dont remember the 80s (born in dec 84) I really dig the music.
and not just the hair metal, but the new wave stuff too.
but I do like 90s music also
out of the last 10 years tho, well theres muse who I really like, but not much else (band that lasted all decade that I liked)

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both eras had their contributions to music..bands like Iron Maiden, Dio, Ozzy (Randy Rhoads RIP) in the 80's to Theatre of Tragedy, Stone Temple Pilots, Oasis...there was a lot of crap in the 80's (almost every hair metal band esp. Cinderella) and the grunge in the 90's...but every era will have their one hit wonders...but I do admit, as an avid follower of HipHop...the 80's dont hold a candle to the 90's...mainstream wise...but the underground scene right now thrives with creativity...some posters here say no...but there's more to HipHop than just the music...its a culture, not a fad...

in terms of metal today? give me Black Dahlia Murder, Job for a Cowboy, Himsa, Destroy Destroy Destroy, Brother von Doom...and I can go on and on...

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I was born in 1986 and I don't really have a lot of clear memories of the 80s. Maybe a few points when I was 2 or 3, but that's it. Apart from that, I mostly remember the 90s. I grew up in that era and I have a lot of fond memories from my childhood years through the last year of the 90s when I became a teen. After that, I was mostly a teen in the early 2000s. Anyway, during my childhood, I grew to love hip-hop and still a rap fan to this day, though I don't care for most of the rappers out there in the mainstream. Hell, I don't know who a lot are because I don't pay attention to a lot of them except for ones who I actually like or ones who I mostly respect and do like songs of theirs. For example: Nas, Method Man, Snoop (Though I mainly prefer his Death Row days and some of his No Limit days through "Paid Da Cost..."), Cypress Hill, etc. As for rock, there are bands who I remember liking back in the day. During the grunge era, there were some good stuff then, too.

By the way, to those anti-rap people, it's not a fad. It's been around since the 1970s and hip-hop is more of a culture and an acquired taste. You don't have to like it, but seriously, show some kind of respect. Not all hip-hop is about objectifying women or killing or selling drugs. I've heard many other stuff that doesn't go into that subject matter.

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I listened to that song just now. Really good stuff. Heard of Deltron 3030, but never really heard any of his stuff before.

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I like 80s movies more than 90s movies

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and then the cobain pussy came and ruined it all....everyone was having a good time.


80's rule...90's suck

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For me personally. The 80's had the overall better package. Music/Video Games/Sports/Cartoons/TV shows and the people were alot better back then. Course I was born in 1980 and wasn't really self aware until 1987 but it's the decade I wish I saw more of.


The 90s beat the 80s with clothing style fad wise in every way. But the everyday person dressing in 80's clothes doesn't look too bad to me. I don't remember seeing a whole lotta people dressed in hair band style or heavy rocker leather, or a load of acid wash. People were mostly wearing jeans and shirts just like today. But that's the guys. The women back then are kinda hit and miss with me today. Some of the 80's clothes look kinda cool still but the only thing I didn't care for was the really ridiculous frazzled bleached hair on some of the girls.



Here's the decades strong points:

80's: Music/TV Shows/Movies (kinda torn on this)/Cartoons/Wrestling/People's common sense and general attitude and how they conducted in public


90's: Fashion/COMPUTERS/INTERNET!!!/Video Games



As for the 2000's??? I describe the 2000's as the retarded brother of the 90's. Common sense went out the window at the new millenium. I think Y2K happened and we missed it:( Wrestling took the biggest **** kicking in it's history during this decade.


I hope the 2010's shape up better, but here we are in the first month and we already have a 7.2 quake hit Haiti. A major natural disaster in the first month of a new decade isn't the best way to kick things off.

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