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About the daughter being a lesbian.. You people are stupid!!


I'm not going to say that it's impossible, but many of your statements as to why it's "obvious" are both stupid and absurd..

Basically, the argument I've seen several times is that it's obvious because "The black roommate wouldn't be as emotionally involved if she was just a roommate"..

You people obviously don't understand female relationships.

Women are emotional creatures but nature, so they tend to be way more emotionally involved and defensive over their friends than men.

I've known many women in my life, and especially women of the college age tend to be very defensive and emotionally involved with their "friends/roommates". Hell, I've seen one or several of them band together and practically forbid a girl from even talking to a guy, because they thought he was "bad for her, etc."

The roommates actions and such are perfectly normal for a roommate who has gotten to know and grown close to her living partner, much less somebody she was close friends with before they even became roommates, if that was the case.

Her actions, attitude, etc have no bearing whatsoever on the speculation of a possible lesbian relationship.

If you can offer up any other clues or what have you to support your argument, then fine, but stop using the "emotional involvement" as a reason to say "it's obvious that they were lesbians and totally gay for each other".

No questions. No answers.. You just accept it and move on.

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No, Stephanie's pretty gay.






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They were gay.

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I don't think it matters one way or the other, but I agree with you it isn't "obvious".

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I find it funny how I caught the line where Randy tells Pam in the clothing store how he thinks Stephanie is a lesbian. Later on in the film, I start to wonder if the black chick is Stephanie's lesbian lover. Not that that's relevant to the story, really.

Glad I'm not the only one.


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Stephanie's lesbian lover. Not that that's relevant to the story, really.
Why do you people always include the disclaimer, any time you point out that someone is gay? Why isn't it okay to say it without the "though it doesn't matter" apology?

I know why, but I'm trying to make a point here. The PC police shouldn't have this affect on people. It was obvious they were flaming lesbians and I'm not apologizing to anyone for saying it. To anyone who can't deal with it, that's your problem!

We point out other characteristics, bad or good, but we're not allowed to point out that someone's gay without hearing "why does that matter?" or "you're a bigot." THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE!!!


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Hahaha!

"TYPICAL & PREDICTABLE" describes the pompous, condescending ANTI-PC_JOHN.

"Oh! Oh! Because I am so very Self-Righteous and Smug, that means "I KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL OF YOU PEOPLE!"

Little-boy John is 100% Typical - their version of what is Too PC, etc. is a bunch of self-indulgent garbage and boils down to his obvious patronizing belief that:

"ONLY I get to decide for you what IS or IS NOT valid basis for objection - it does NOT affect me, but I DECIDE FOR YOU! You have no right to decide for yourself what is or is not valid basis for objection!"

What a silly, ignorant and willfully pompous attitude. JOHN - Does that mean that WE get to decide for YOU whether you have any right whatsoever to be offended when someone calls your mother, daughter, wife, etc. an awful, terrible name as long as it is a Joke!?!

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Well, the only thing about Randy's "I think she's a lesbian" comment that has any meaning is this: it shows us that he's pretty out of it. Think about it: The guy knows nothing about social life, especially of young female adults - not exactly the demographic of independent wrestling. When he sees two young women living together, his mind does a left turn straight into a porn scenario. And I get that. We men sometimes think like that, whether we like it or not. But apart from his assumption, we have no reason to conclude she might be a lesbian. And even if she were, would that make any difference to any part of the story? So why is this debate still going on?

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I think we're clearly supposed to infer that she's a lesbian, and the reason that's important is because I wonder if we're supposed to also infer that she was--at least partially--driven in that direction by her broken relationship with her Father (i.e. men).

I get that sexuality is more complicated than that, but I also believe that we're all a bit of nature and a bit of nurture and it's clear to see that her most important relationship with a man--the one with her Father--was a traumatic one.

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I think we're clearly supposed to infer that she's a lesbian, and the reason that's important is because I wonder if we're supposed to also infer that she was--at least partially--driven in that direction by her broken relationship with her Father (i.e. men).


Actually no. What it's supposed to imply is just how little Ram knows about his daughter. He doesn't even know if she's gay or not.

Can't stop the signal.

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Why can't you both be right? I think he knows so little about his daughter that he doesn't even know if she is straight or gay...
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...she could have very easily been so traumatized by her father's screwups that she chose to stay away from men altogether (this is a very real phenomenon - there are born lesbians, there are also lesbians by choice...)

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That's how I took it, Mr. Fluke.

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100% straight man and *I* get involved with my friends like that. It doesn't matter.

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Up until Randy brought it up I didn't even think about something like that and afterwards I was wondering how he got that clue.

He probably has no clue about best friend friendships.

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I get what you're saying, but it appears to be a lesbian thing going on between the girls based solely on the vibe given to us. It was brief, yes, but felt. And I think that's what many people on here are trying to point out: the vibes.

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Her actions, attitude, etc have no bearing whatsoever on the speculation of a possible lesbian relationship.

But then really, why do you care so much? If you think she wasn't, then fine.

Why do you have to convince everyone that you're right? It's not as if it mattered even in the movie, let alone in real life.

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There's not enough data to jump to the conclusion that Stephanie's a lesbian. She has a same-sex roommate, so what? So do a gazillion straight people around the world. Her roommate is emotionally concerned about her, so what? Friends care about their friends and understandably get upset when someone troubles their friend. Randy tells Pam that he thinks Stephanie may be a lesbian, but then says he doesn't really know. For all he knows -- and we're talking about someone who has been a virtual stranger for over a dozen years -- Stephanie and her roommate are just friends.

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